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Title: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: Circle C on November 23, 2009, 01:57:31 pm Can you effectively hunt with one dog?
When the dog is treed, how does the dog know if the coon is still in that tree, or if he has traveled through the canopy to another tree? Do you typically shoot a coon while the dog is treed, or do you tie the dog off somewhere prior to shooting? Or do you lead the dog away, so you can tree the coon another night? I hear about people hunting coons with both curs and hounds, but it seems to be dominated by the hounds. Is there a reason for this? Do coons not leave much scent, therefore needing a colder trailing nose to locate? Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: UNDERDOG on November 23, 2009, 02:50:24 pm Chris, I will try to answer you IMO tonight,gotta run, daughter is sick and we are heading for the doctor.
Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: big D on November 23, 2009, 03:03:26 pm you can run one dog. I run two though but if it is a young dog it is better to either poke the coon out or shoot him and let the dogs have him.
Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: Bump on November 23, 2009, 03:13:09 pm Can you effectively hunt with one dog? When the dog is treed, how does the dog know if the coon is still in that tree, or if he has traveled through the canopy to another tree? Do you typically shoot a coon while the dog is treed, or do you tie the dog off somewhere prior to shooting? Or do you lead the dog away, so you can tree the coon another night? I hear about people hunting coons with both curs and hounds, but it seems to be dominated by the hounds. Is there a reason for this? Do coons not leave much scent, therefore needing a colder trailing nose to locate? Im sure you can effictively hunt with one dog but listening to the race is a lot of the concept in contrast to hog hunting. It is pretty much the same concept as hog hunting. A good coon dog is suppose to circle the tree and check for the coon. However...some coons will get a little skittish and start walking trees. For the most part they climb and stay put. What you do with the coon once it is treed is preference...just like these different styles of hog hunting. Some people shoot them out to the dogs for a reward...some shake them out to the dogs for a reward...some tie the dogs and squall or shake the coon out to run again and some leave the coon. In a contest the coon is left in the tree and scored depending how the dog did and how the handler calls his dog. Each dog is given points on striking the hog and treeing the hog depending what order they bark and how the handler calls his dog. Then he is timed and scored upon arrival of the coon or no coon. Not sure why coon hunting is primarily hounds but for many years all the major kennel registries only recognized the 7 breeds of coonhounds and therefore could only hunt those breeds in the contests. I dont know about the scent they leave but a hound is primarily open and the open dogs push the coon to tree...not to mention again...the mountain music the put out on track. A good coon dog is suppose to circle the tree and check for the coon. However...some coons will get a little skittish and start walking trees. For the most part they climb and stay put. What you do with the coon once it is treed is preference...just like these different styles of hog hunting. Some people shoot them out to the dogs for a reward...some shake them out to the dogs for a reward...some tie the dogs and squall or shake the coon out to run again and some leave the coon. In a contest the coon is left in the tree and scored depending how the dog did and how the handler calls his dog. Each dog is given points on striking the hog and treeing the hog depending what order they bark and how the handler calls his dog. Then he is timed and scored upon arrival of the coon or no coon. Not sure why coon hunting is primarily hounds but for many years all the major kennel registries only recognized the 7 breeds of coonhounds and therefore could only hunt those breeds in the contests. I dont know about the scent they leave but a hound is primarily open and the open dogs push the coon to tree...not to mention again...the mountain music the put out on track. Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: matt_aggie04 on November 23, 2009, 03:52:18 pm Rex you been hog hunting too long.......
"strike the hog and tree the hog" ;D Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: Circle C on November 23, 2009, 04:02:59 pm Thanks for the info guys. I have never been coon hunting, but sure like the sounds of it. A couple things have me interested in it. Right now every one of my dogs(except my catch dogs) is on injured reserve, as much as I want to turn them out, I really need to give them some more time. So it would be nice to have one dog on the feed bill that I could use for something other than hogs. I can't think of anything else that I would hunt at night, so that is why I have the coon dog questions ;)
If you were shopping for a coon dog, what questions would you ask the seller? How long should one stay treed? Where would one look for a sure enough good coon dog? and what kind of money should someone expect to pay for an honest coon dog that can find it's own coon, and stay treed, without having to weed through a bunch of BS? Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: kp on November 23, 2009, 08:22:33 pm "One out" coon hunting... novel idea! :angel:
kp Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: UNDERDOG on November 23, 2009, 11:22:18 pm Chris, Bump was pretty acurate...I''ll give ya my thoughts.
Can you effectively hunt with one dog? Yes, w/o a doubt. I usually have a pair or a young dog working tho. When the dog is treed, how does the dog know if the coon is still in that tree, or if he has traveled through the canopy to another tree? Most will tree were they are sure the coon went up,do the dogs know if the coon limbed out or not? I don't know if the dogs know or not,some that can wind well will tree under the game or were the smell it strongest but I see that in more curs than hounds. It falls on the hunter to find the coon,when the muscie dime grapes are ripe the dogs go nuts and just about tree every were and I always have trouble finding coon in the when you have a 150yd muscie dime vine loaded in some big tree tops. Do you typically shoot a coon while the dog is treed, or do you tie the dog off somewhere prior to shooting? Or do you lead the dog away, so you can tree the coon another night? It all depends on the paticular situation,if I have a young dog along who did some work I like to reward them w/ a coon.Some time the place I am hunting wants the coon gone so a good "head count" at the end of a hunt helps some time.I do like to leash a dog at the tree tho as I teaches them to be solid and stay at the tree. I hear about people hunting coons with both curs and hounds, but it seems to be dominated by the hounds. Is there a reason for this? Do coons not leave much scent, therefore needing a colder trailing nose to locate? Chris, the honds vs cur thing similar to the same on hogs,some like the hounds and others like the curs.There are plenty of good coon cur dogs,and competitions for them as well and some were there are all breeds hound,cur n feist competing against each other.I hunted and competed w/ hounds for along time but the last 15 years or so I have mainly hunted w/ curs and feist and enjoy them over the hounds a bit more. I love a good hound but w/ a hound comes them hound things ya know? I like them easy going cur tree dogs these days,I tree just as many and don't have to work near as hard. Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: UNDERDOG on November 23, 2009, 11:52:27 pm Chris, this little dog was a Sq. CH,Bench CH and a third place win away from a Nt.CH.
My old little Girl dog. (http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/BONEDIGGERKENNELS/bryantsoldpics004.jpg) This is the bluetick I had along time ago.... (http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/BONEDIGGERKENNELS/bryantsoldpics013.jpg) (http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/BONEDIGGERKENNELS/bryantsoldpics012.jpg) And you have seen plenty pics of Peanut treed. Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: UNDERDOG on November 23, 2009, 11:58:21 pm If you were shopping for a coon dog, what questions would you ask the seller? How long should one stay treed? Where would one look for a sure enough good coon dog? and what kind of money should someone expect to pay for an honest coon dog that can find it's own coon, and stay treed, without having to weed through a bunch of BS? Chris, you can get a great one for free depending on who you know or pay as much as you can think of. You will need to figure out if you want a open or silent dog,close,med or long range. Do you want to drop the tailgate,wait an hour or so and start tracking or ride the buggie tooling around and have a good race and tree and get home at a resonable hour.If you get real serious about wanting one I will ask a few friends and see what they may have. Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: matt_aggie04 on November 24, 2009, 08:18:14 am Bryant if you can find a solid, fiest/cur that will tree squirrels in the day and coons at night while cruising around in the mule or walking but will come in and load up when you are ready to leave I would sure like to know about it. This little fiest dog I have needs a teacher, and I could use one too ;D Papers and comp wins don't mean much, just a pleasure dog.....
Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: Circle C on November 24, 2009, 08:36:30 am Bryant thanks for the info. I would like to go on a handful of hunts with different types of dogs, so that I can see what I like. I know that the first hog dogs I hunted behind are nothing like the kind I use today. It took a lot of hunts to figure out what I wanted...I can only assume the same will be the case with coons.
BTW, we used the winter cover on the box last weekend. The dogs thank you! Works so nice, that we are going to have on made to fit the trailer too. Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: aladatrot on November 24, 2009, 08:54:45 am Bryant,
I told chris if I'm gonna be feeding a coon dawg he better have some big beautiful ears. Cheers M Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: UNDERDOG on November 24, 2009, 09:00:06 am Bryant if you can find a solid, fiest/cur that will tree squirrels in the day and coons at night while cruising around in the mule or walking but will come in and load up when you are ready to leave I would sure like to know about it. This little fiest dog I have needs a teacher, and I could use one too ;D Papers and comp wins don't mean much, just a pleasure dog..... Matt,check w/ Alton...tell him what you want and give him time,he can fix you up w/ just that. Bryant thanks for the info. I would like to go on a handful of hunts with different types of dogs, so that I can see what I like. I know that the first hog dogs I hunted behind are nothing like the kind I use today. It took a lot of hunts to figure out what I wanted...I can only assume the same will be the case with coons. BTW, we used the winter cover on the box last weekend. The dogs thank you! Works so nice, that we are going to have on made to fit the trailer too. Chris, them hounds sound great and are the "traditional" way to go....but when the screw up they do it big lol and sometimes they can range farther than the woods you have. I have a feeling you will like the cur tree dogs better,you can still have a open trailing dog w/ way more handle.Hopefully we can make that trip as planed and you can see Peanut work or maybe hit my spot Sat. night. I am sure glad the box cover worked out,I was worried it wouldnt fit or something. Bryant, I told chris if I'm gonna be feeding a coon dawg he better have some big beautiful ears. Cheers M That all depends on what you call "big" ;D Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: matt_aggie04 on November 24, 2009, 09:04:57 am I will get with Alton....as soon as you tell me who Alton is 8)
Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: UNDERDOG on November 24, 2009, 09:10:12 am I will get with Alton....as soon as you tell me who Alton is 8) LOL...sorry PM sent. Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: Bump on November 24, 2009, 09:15:16 am Rex you been hog hunting too long....... "strike the hog and tree the hog" ;D you mean yalls hogs dont climb trees? ;D Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: Circle C on November 24, 2009, 09:19:48 am Quote you mean yalls hogs dont climb trees? The hogs I hunt don't need to climb trees, they have wings... ;D Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: aladatrot on November 24, 2009, 10:19:36 am By screwing up, are you talking deer?
Cheers M Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: UNDERDOG on November 24, 2009, 10:22:33 am By screwing up, are you talking deer? Cheers M Yea,or hogs for that matter if your COON hunting...specially if the dogs are tri colored rolleyes Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: aladatrot on November 24, 2009, 01:09:47 pm Tri colored? I'm thinking that's why people don't want walker hounds, huh?
when I think coondawg, I'm thinking bluetick, redbone, or some mix. What do those competition guys do with the hounds (or curs) that are good but older or good but not right for competing? Seems us "pleasure hunters" may be tickled with their cast offs. Cheers M Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: matt_aggie04 on November 24, 2009, 01:13:27 pm They sell them on coondawgs.com for $1500 instead of $5000 ;D
Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: ETHHunters on November 25, 2009, 07:26:00 pm Tri colored? I'm thinking that's why people don't want walker hounds, huh? Their are plenty top of the line walker hounds out there. Just as many as a bluetick or any type of cur. It is all a preference thing. when I think coondawg, I'm thinking bluetick, redbone, or some mix. What do those competition guys do with the hounds (or curs) that are good but older or good but not right for competing? Seems us "pleasure hunters" may be tickled with their cast offs. Cheers M Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: aladatrot on November 26, 2009, 10:43:23 am Oh, I was just refering to how far they go. I'm getting the impressions that walkers as a rule are rangier than some of the others whether just hunting or on track. I keep coming accross these "wanted" ads that say 'no walkers'. I was thinking that was on account of how far they go.
Cheers M Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: ETHHunters on November 26, 2009, 08:05:03 pm Oh, I was just refering to how far they go. I'm getting the impressions that walkers as a rule are rangier than some of the others whether just hunting or on track. I keep coming accross these "wanted" ads that say 'no walkers'. I was thinking that was on account of how far they go. Im not sure they hunt any farther out but I dont know alot about coon hunting. From the dogs I have seen keep in mind that is not alot but they hunt faster than a bluetick. As far as a redbone or plott not too many people hunt them around here. They are more of a show dog in the area I live in. I have a cousin that has been hunting blueticks for a long time and that is all he will hunt. He has a couple world champions but that has been many years ago. Cheers M Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: Look Fur em on November 27, 2009, 12:41:58 pm I think alot depends on the type of woods your hunting and how many coons are there. I use to coon hunt quite a bit before I started hog hunting. I've actually used catahoulas to coon hunt. Produce more coons with them then the hounds. They were silent on track and by the time the coon new what was going on it was too late! They either had to fight or get up what they could for some relief. My hound huntin buddies didn't like it too much. To them it wasn't about the number of coons it was about the race and listening to the dogs. I was selling coons so it was more about the numbers to me and less work. Don't get me wrong I too enjoyed the races and listening to the dogs but a coon can and will travel a long ways. I don't think the gps tracking system would do much good coon hunting with hounds. The old long range tracking collars with a tree switch is more like it. I'll have to post some old pics with catahoula and coons. I sure produced more coons than hogs. I don't think I ever had a dry run while coon hunting.
Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: Mike on November 27, 2009, 06:42:50 pm Thre' my kinfolks up out of Winnfield worked hogs, coon hunted and squirrel hunted with their catahoulas. I'd give anything to have those dogs today. Last one I remember them having was probably in the mid 80's... I was in junior high and didn't know a thing about hog hunting with dogs.
Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: Look Fur em on November 28, 2009, 10:58:51 am Mike, I hear ya. There's not alot of those dogs left. People just don't spend the time with there dogs like the older folks did. My dad had a catahoula years and years ago that listened better than my kids. We used him to run deer with. When I was little everybody ran deer with dogs. After the hunt we would ride the roads with the catahoula in the back of the truck and catch those crazy skittish deer hounds mostly walkers with the catahoula. He would hit them and roll'em on there back and stand over them until we could get our hands on them and load them in the truck. We had chickens and when it was time to eat a few, you could point them out and he would hold them down with his feet. He wouldn't bother them until you told him to. Before I started hog hunting around 98 I used them to blood trail deer, coon hunt and work a few cows. I don't have anymore cows and don't bow hunt like I use to. The hog hunting has ruined me. LOL There are exceptions I just don't think most of the catahoulas today compare to the ones of yesterday. There use to be alot of good catahoulas up your kin folks way.
Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: UNDERDOG on November 29, 2009, 01:45:15 pm Mandy, I quoted this here too...hope you don't mind.
Went coon huntin last night with underdog's kemmer cur and black devildog (patterdale terrier). Guys, we only think our bulldogs are tough. Patterdales are fearless and viscious if you are a furry mammal! No fear on coon that likely twice outweighed him, and hell on any furbearer in the woods. He had to be choked off because there was no breakstick! I had no idea something so small- think chihuahua crossed on jagd - could be so effective. The kemmer cur was a blast, but the real show was the "catch dog" patterdale. Sweet to people, and oh so portable. I decided striking and treeing the coon is easy, but finding the thing in the tree is hard! Like playing hide and seek with a guy in a ghillie suit. We got it done, bagged a coon, and were very pleased. Anyway, I wasn't brave enough to bring home a sow for culinary experementation, but may work up the nerve sometime. Cheers and thanks underdog! M Mandy, I can't beleive you ain't smokin that big ole coon right now ;D I am glad y'all had fun,Peanut is pretty rusty as he has not been out since Oct. the 2nd.I wish he had been a little sharper and showed y'all a coupple more coon. And Scrappy.....well, has not been hunted for a year or so as we were running short on bloodline so he was a little cranky lol Tell Richard I appologize for his lack of manneres ;) So Chris,what did you think of that little hunt? Here is Scrappy.... (http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/BONEDIGGERKENNELS/2bday075.jpg) (http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/BONEDIGGERKENNELS/party080.jpg) Plenty of pics of Peanut here... http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=9241.0 Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: Circle C on November 30, 2009, 10:48:39 am Bryant,
Thanks for having us out. I really enjoyed the hunt, and look forward to the next one! Here are a couple pics of the coon, and the possum that I thought Scrappy had killed :o (http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p204/ccoughran/DSC_0585-1.jpg) (http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p204/ccoughran/DSC_0574-1.jpg) Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: uglydog on November 30, 2009, 06:50:54 pm Chris & Mandi, next time yall want to come to Flatonia, give me a couple days and we can line up Arron and Courtney to bring out old Val she is an old Redbone that trees and hunts alone or with other dogs. Arrons dad used to hunt a pair of redbones before he passed away, and every now and then Aaron or his brother will take Val out for a hunt. I have not been yet, but Thomas went and said she sounds really good, The boys can tell you exactly what she is saying and let you know right before she gets treed.
I would like to go along also. Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: craig on November 30, 2009, 07:33:53 pm i grew up coon hunting on mules.
i won a lot of treeing contest and bench shows when i was 7 or 8 years old , i had a room full of trophy's. i shure had fun following my dad thru the woods. but i couldnt wait till the day i got me a cow dog and a quarter horse. ;D thats how kids think i guess. Chris you got you a coondog found yet ? Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: matt_aggie04 on November 30, 2009, 07:36:16 pm Craig you need to dig up some of those old pics and post em up. I would like to see those.....
Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: Circle C on November 30, 2009, 09:57:30 pm krystal,
that sounds fun. One of the first hog dogs I hunted behind was a redbone. He liked to find hogs in the next county over from where we turned out...good thing was we could still hear him bayed! craig, no coon dog yet. I want to hunt behind some different ones before I make any purchases. I sure liked bryant's peanut dog, great handle, and I felt like we were hunting coons, not dogs. Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: UNDERDOG on November 30, 2009, 10:16:53 pm craig, no coon dog yet. I want to hunt behind some different ones before I make any purchases. I sure liked bryant's peanut dog, great handle, and I felt like we were hunting coons, not dogs. Thanks Chris, I wish he was more on his game than he was. If we put him w/ that red bone he will hustle up a bit better or maybe when Matt gets his dog he would be a good dog to get her going on coon,he hunts harded when he has competition. Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: craig on November 30, 2009, 10:23:46 pm i grew up hunting behind walkers and i mean way behind. them things would leave the country and we would have to ride to the top of the mountians and listen for the dogs , yeh before tracking systems ;D , and if you hunt a coon dog from the back of a mule they will get alot longer range i guess they know you can travel farther . so my advise ,if you get a walker keep him hobbled on one side and you can keep up with him just fine. ;D
Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: UNDERDOG on November 30, 2009, 10:34:17 pm Craig, Walker is a four letter word at my house....I remember many loooong nights as a youngun waiting and looking for them dang holestiens....been w/ some good ones but even them I don't know that I would want them.
You mentioned the trophys, we have a few boxes full from the coon and sq hunts...so many that we started recycling them back to the clubs but they are all put up now. My son still keeps alot of the beagle trophys he/we won....he has about 30 across his head board but he and the old dog earned them,I keep about 8 of the big ones on the tv,that stuff used to be fun but the competitons just burned me out now days a good pleasure hunt does me just fine and since my boy is 16 he pretty much hunt them girl these days anyhow lol. Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: craig on December 01, 2009, 07:27:39 pm thats why i lost interet in the coon hounds i got burned out as a kid.
all my trophys are in the attic some where at my parents house. i like to hear a coon hound with a good mouth but thats about it, im going to make a few coon hunts with an older guy up here, to show him how to run his new garmin, who know might kendle an old flame ;D Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: matt_aggie04 on December 01, 2009, 08:15:46 pm Take your camera, I think any man in his mid 80's that rides a mule to coon hunt deserves to be an internet sensation haha
Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: craig on December 01, 2009, 09:55:28 pm yes he does Matt, he still keeps dogs to gather his cattle with. he is shure enough an old hand, he has told me some stories about driving hogs back in the day. i wish he would let me make a video, but i think he might run me off if i ask. ;D
he has a nice set of NALC pup but wrong color for me, there are some in there Mike would like. ill get a few pictures any way. Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: eastx on March 17, 2010, 09:28:55 am I'm glad I found this thread, ok so I got a BMC pup with the thought of hog doggin, I haven't given up that thought, but I haven't found the time to get him in the woods with other hogdogs, or a piglet to start working him in a pen at my place yet. Well, me and a friend put out some traps and got a coon yesterday. My dog is about 7 months old now, when we showed him the coon he went nuts, and when we dispatched the coon we dropped it out of the trap still kickin, he grabbed it and commenced to shakin it rough. Is this a good sign? I am salt curing the hide and am going to play with him and do some drags, want to see if he takes to them. Whenever we go in the woods he is always nose down on some kind of trail. I'm pretty sure he has some hunt in him, I just hope I can train him, never trained a huntin dog before.
Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: UNDERDOG on March 17, 2010, 09:44:43 am The trouble is the instinct to "Tree" as opposed to hunting and having a good nose,a tree dog is hard to come by. Next time you catch a coon turn it out and give it a start and see if you can watch what tree he goes up then get your pup out and see if he can trail it to the tree if he does then encourage him to bark or "tree it" if he does bark some then knock the coon out if he don't bark then do not shoot it out for him or he will learn that he does not need to bark to get the game.
Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: RyanI on March 20, 2010, 03:58:55 pm Guys, I dont know where you are geting your price information on a good coondog, $1500 would be the low end, more Like $7500 to $10,000 for a top hound . And yes Walkers is where its at, 75% of coondogs are Walkers. And no they wont leave the country unless they have to, and are not any more trashey then other dogs. And I never understood coon hunting with a cur, Its all about hearing a good race with a nice hound mouth.............
Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: UNDERDOG on March 20, 2010, 07:56:24 pm And I never understood coon hunting with a cur, Its all about hearing a good race with a nice hound mouth............. Have you ever been w/ a good cur coon dog? I know many who can and will hang w/ any of the traditional coon hound breeds and have nice open on track bawl mouths....most of the big Kemmer cur coon dogs are open on track w/ a good bawl or nice chop. I have had curs and feist that beat hounds in NKC competitions plenty and just as much pleasure hunting. Here are some pic of my cur coon dogs old and new and maybe a hound I fooled w/ from time to time. http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=9241.0 Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: RyanI on March 20, 2010, 08:14:40 pm I have been coonhunting with curs and it is not my cup of tea. I have a Fiest, and a half kemmer half fiest that I squirrel hunt with, and they work good for that, but dont care for their mouth.
Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: Miller Lite on July 08, 2010, 02:27:09 pm Man I ran coondogs for years about 6 to be exact it is a blast its a lot ruffer then people give it credit for i've seen a big ol boar coon whoop a pack of hounds i've seen a dog run the same track for miles an put meat at the end of that trail i got into it pretty hardcore me an buddies used to have our own competions on the weekends they would bring them "blue ticks redbones" ect but them walker dogs sure do put the heat on them when i tree one it depends on the race if i kill it or not if that sucker runs about 100 yards an trees he'll live to run another day if that lil sucker runs 2 miles an trees he'll die a painful death >:D by walker dog an the only time i ever tied a dog back treeing was puppies an that was just so it would drive them nuts and make them wanna be on that tree with them grown dogs an then i'd turn it loose an watch em rock an roll its a pretty awesome feeling to take a hound dog pup raise it an then train it to run and bark at nothing but a coon its an art just like any other dog huntin some people are good at fixing things some people are just good dog trainers and some arnt either way it all equals out to everyone having a blast huntin behind there dogs
Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: Miller Lite on July 08, 2010, 02:29:51 pm Tri colored? I'm thinking that's why people don't want walker hounds, huh? when I think coondawg, I'm thinking bluetick, redbone, or some mix. What do those competition guys do with the hounds (or curs) that are good but older or good but not right for competing? Seems us "pleasure hunters" may be tickled with their cast offs. Cheers M might I ad that every good blue tick redbone ect. i ever seen was trained by a walker dog ... i have never seen a more pleasent tree dog then a treeing walker coonhound that was trained in the right hands Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: UNDERDOG on July 08, 2010, 11:23:03 pm might I ad that every good blue tick redbone ect. i ever seen was trained by a walker dog ... i have never seen a more pleasent tree dog then a treeing walker coonhound that was trained in the right hands Miller lite, where you live/are from? you got a holestien you want to drop w/a cur dog and see how many each can get treed? I know of two walkers and a bluetick who were started/trianed with cur dogs....lemme know ;) Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: MRSUSHOG on July 24, 2010, 01:13:44 pm I have been looking for a finished open coon dog. I have really enjoyed reading this thread! I would love to go hunting with anyone to learn more as I am a beginner. I so far have only hunted with the walkers. I have heard about the curr coon dogs but havent had the pleasure of hunting with them yet. If anyone is around Iola TX I would love to go out with them or travel to go hunt somewhere else. I also have a very large ranch to hunt coons on if someone wants to come hunt with me but I dont have a dog so bring yours!!!
Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: machine73 on July 25, 2010, 12:45:10 pm Bryant, talk her into a cur.
Title: Re: Educate me on Coon Dogs/ coon hunting Post by: TinyTexasCowgirl on August 22, 2010, 03:27:16 am I dunno when this was checked last time, but I just wanted to add my two cents. There is nothing, not even a pack of dogs bayed up, that sounds as sweet, great, and spine chilling as hearing a redbone treed at 2 am on a april night.. and yes, i speak from experience.
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