EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I was just thinkin what would y'all prefer a old or a dog that's in it prime from the pound  can be trained and molded into a great cd or a pup that can be trained and molded into a great cd that  

I prefer getting a younger dog from proven parents. Your chances of getting a bulldog with no human or dog aggresion and good drive are better.......but lots of good cd's also come from shelters.

We get pretty much all of our catch dogs from a rescue group. Granted, we have a back door agreement and return policy with them, not all of them turn out but a large percentage turn out great.

Steve

Depends on what breed you get. Most pits will naturally catch, just show them a pig. Its great when you can save a dog on death row. Ours didn't come from a pound, he was a stray. I trust him with my life. But to each his own.  ;D

Know exactly what you mean djhogdogger my best cd "Red" was a stray pup, and no amount of money could ever make me let her go, even if I stopped doggin :o, yeah right!!

strays bulldogs can make great catchdogs and they dont need any formal training.  if they have a good temperament, you can have them going in just a few hunts.  no need to spend months raising a pup.

The months it takes to raise a puppy is what makes the difference.  That's where they learn to behave and obey.  I have only gotten 1 grown catchdog that I got along with.  That's out of probably 10 or 12.  The ones I've raised up to hunting age from pups, were all how I liked them.

Catch dogs don't have the longevity like a strike dog does so If you've got the time and patience to raise one from a pup and then raise a back up then you may go that route but I find it easier to pick them up already full grown and waiting for an oppurtunity. Whether that means we meet in a shelter or if I pick them up already experienced from with a hunting backround, Either works for me! I also have a limited cage space so I don't like to have to have that  many pups at once.

In the last 3 months we have gotten 22 pit bulls and pit crosses from the pound and everyone has made a cd, they ranged from young to old small and big, we enjoy watching something that was given a second chance work out to be cds!!! With a little work from the shock collar everyone has no human or dog aggression, they are around dogs and people almost 24/7. It makes me feel good to change somethings life so it can live a better and healthier life than before.

I think the best dogs to pick up if your gonna get a stray is one that will chase your truck when you drive by.  I picked up a catahoula like that one time, within a cuople of hunts and no baypen, he was putting teeth on a hog.

With bull breeds there's not much training that needs to be done as far as the act of catching. Now, whether or not that dog proves out to be a catchdog is two different things.

While I believe good dogs are where you find them...I prefer to know the background of the dogs I feed and the more generations the better. To me, this is particularly important if the dog proves breedworthy. I'm like Kevin, I prefer to raise them up as well.



Caney Creek...I can't fathom the need for 22 dogs over a 3 month period. Good on ya'. When you say every one has made a catchdog, does that mean that all are now finished catchdogs, or all are dogs that have caught?

Hey scott, we haven't kept but a few, we give them to one of our friends thats going through a rough time, he can barely afford to put gas in his 4 wheeler to go hunting. He takes them and sells them to ppl he knows, we just get them to catch and go to the bay. Yes every one will go to the bay and catch on the ear or snout.

Meat head was starving and hairless under a bridge. Rescued and brought to krystal who for some unknown reason decided to try to heal him rather than carry him in to be put down (thanks krystal). He ended up a fine catch dog you could always count on.

Tyson was a backyard savage who was chewing up everything in sight and could extricate himself from a wire crate. His family had enough and mike got his hands on him. He was a turd to lead at first, but the dog finally has it together and is fine to hunt with. He has a wild catching style and isn't what you would want as a #1 catchdog, but he doesn't seem to overheat easily and is glad to make a 300 yard sprint to catch a hog who broke before he got there. He definitely has a purpose, and won't back down.

Tater was in a pound years back, and came to his rescuer neutered and house broken. When craig got him, he trash broke and horse broke him. As we speak, he is in the dining room watching the kids mash up potatoes in the kitchen (no paws allowed in my kitchen). Ear dog to the tee, and saved tyson's rear in oklahoma when he got flipped under by a boar. Not bad at all to lead in, not a bad whiner, and one heck of a co pilot in the truck. Also has good office manners.

I like the idea of someone else raising the dog. Sometimes it makes things easier if one is already well socialized and leash broke. Not all of them are, but I would most definitely have a rescued cd. I'm certainly not opposed to people raising or breeding catch dogs, I just don't like waiting on a pup. I'm too impatient.

Cheers
M

I prefer to know the background on my dogs, so i'll stick to catch dogs from proven stock.

I've seen some great catch dogs that came from the pound... but a lot of horror stories also. Catching the other dogs, trying to catch you or another person, trying to eat the tires off the truck as you get away from it, etc... :o

I see benifits to both sides.  I think if you might be wanting to breed the dog it should come from good blood lines weather you raise the dog your self, or get him when he is older. 

 One I got from the pound when she was about a year old.  The other I got when she was about a year old from a family who had had her a couple of months and could not keep her.  So I know nothing of eirthers breeding and got both at about a year old and neither had ever seen a hog. 

Neither have any dog or human aggression and catch very well.  I would consider them almost finished.

I dont know if I have just gotten lucky ?  But I will definatly look at the shelters next time I need a CD

I totaly agree with you, some ppl don't know the proper way to train cds, they think they'll hunt right off the bat, it takes work, none of the dogs we have trained will ever catch another dog or go after ppl i think thats prolly some pit that has been used for fighting and already ruined!!

I would alot rather raise my catchdogs from pups. That has nothing to do with how it catches. It is for handle and a trust issue. I have only had 2 catchdogs since I started and I raised both of them and I could trust them with my kids or horses or the can ride along in the same box as any of my dogs. Im not saying you cant get that in a grown dog or a pound dog but I beleive they would be few and far between.

I have found with dogs....there are no guarantees...period.

The guy we used to run with only used dogs found on the side of the road or were given to him.  His American Bulldog was a rescue dog and our CD was just given to us.  Both would rip the ear off any hog.  If a dog has it they have it if they don't they don't it's all in their personality and how you treat them.  Every catch dog I have ever seen and the one I own is always around kids and has no aggression towards people.  Plus in times like this find a good free dog ain't bad neither 

Temperament is just as much a genetic trait as prey or hunting drive.

I think there is something to be learned by the folks with the "We like 'em cheap, cause we go through a bunch" mentality.

Nd a good one you don't go through I got one that nine who now is house dog and goes ocasinaly wen the others are cut up just cause it will catch don't make it a catch dog to me it has to catch right calm.  On ranger or in truck calm at house my little boy has napped in the barels with my bulldogs. Ilike em from proven dogs in catching and atitude

got a stray right now im fixin to start, shes a sweet thing and good looking to boot, she plays real ruff with the spring pole but seems to know just when to calm down.  i hope she makes a good catch dog becuase shes to dang pretty to get rid of