EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I have two RCD's that have some of this blood in them. I am wondering who all is also running some dogs with this blood in them. I am interested in RCD's only, NOT lead in. It would be nice to know who has this blood so we all could know has what for future breedings. If you have these, post how their breed, their sex, and their weight.
                                                    Thanks

DOE = female - 1/3 Irish Wolfhound, 1/3 Greyhound, 1/3 Scottish Deerhound = STAGHOUND - 70lbs - 2.5years

MOTH = male - son of DOE X 1/2 DOGO, 1/2 AB - 65 lbs - 9.5 months

BEETLE = female - Australian BullySTAG cross (RIP) X DOGO - 75 lbs - 10.5 months

HORNET = male - Australian BullySTAG cross (RIP) X DOGO - 90 lbs - 10.5 months

GNAT = female - Australian BullySTAG cross (RIP) X DOGO, AB - 60 lbs - 10.5 months

Here is the lineage on HORNET/BEETLE so you can see exactly what RIP is made of.....

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Had a guy look at that pedigree sheet and say, "Never seen someone keep a pedigree on a mutt before!"

HAAAAA ;D ;D ;D

I told him, "Guess you never met anybody who loved their mutts as much as I do!"   ;D :D ;D

Pit x ridgeback. 65 pounds.  Gonna breed her to a Dane. Put dome more leg and size on

Keeping pedigree over your mutt, is how all  purebreeds started :)



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W-tate, what dane you gonna breed her to ? How well does she catch ?

i've got a future plan but the first breeding won't take place for about another year.  the pups will end up 1/2 great dane x 1/4 ab x 1/4 dogo.  then after i pick the best performers out of that litter i'm gonna cross em over a (what i believe i was told) 3/4 deer hound x 1/4 wolf hound. 

i'm working towards producing some dogs that should be 30-32" and around 100 or so lbs.  should work great for running 2 or 3 on the ground in some milo, crp, or mesquite flats after i move back to Canyon.

Dabutcher, I like that cross alot. I am trying to to the same as yourself in breeding dogs for the feilds but they also do pretty good in woods and most thickets. Do you have any pics of the dogs you mentioned ?

well, the abxdogo is a dog i have named Leah.  She came out of Zeus and Comet which are both Lucy Lou x Captain Morgan bred.  very tight but she doesn't seem to have any negatives from it.  BUT, i'm waiting and giving her time to prove herself and make sure she doesn't have any faults.

the great dane is L3's Riddick dog.  the pups he's sired so far have all turned out or are turning out.  Josh is getting a wolfhound x deer hound cross that SilvertonBoarDog is gonna hunt up around where i'll be moving to.  Given he makes a dog i'll go from there, and if he doesn't then i'll start the search for one that is proven or find one for myself.

I have some pics of Leah but i'll have to dig for em.

Been foolin' around with a greyhound... can't keep the skin on the dog long enough to give her a chance on a good hog!.... If this dog ever tried to get through a cat briar thicket... there'd be nothing left  :o  For all their superior athletic abilities, just too fragile for me to even consider crossing up.... 

Dabutcher, I have spoken with him also about his dogs. I hope he breeds his dane/pit over that hairy dog.

Noah, I know it would be a drive for you but you can try breeding that greyhound to my dae/pit. I live in Macon, Georgia. Would make some sho nuff rough RCD's.

Buddy,

Please post some pics of your BullyStag pup......

L3 has been searching for a pure Irish Wolfhound to cross his bully/danes with.....He's got this infatuation with SIZE.....Here is a wolfhound that would add a few pounds to most any line:   ;D

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lol looks like your cooking something good ... nice crosses ..

Come on Black Gold, most of us have some sort of desire to be bigger  rolleyes. I try to get a pic tonight.

Yeah, Josh is a good guy just misunderstood by a lot of folks, imo.  he's got the same outlook on people as i do so we get along pretty well. 

he is planning on breeding that wolf hound x deer hound  to his bullydane.  should make some leggy dogs for sure.  we're both kinda looking for the same thing.  30-32" and about 100lb dog that'll find it's own hog.  he hunts one out but i'm gonna be using 2-3 dogs in a pack with leah as a drop dog if one of the others needs help.  she'll be my lead in catch dog for whenever i hunt with baydogs as well.  I also may be picking up a dogo from a guy that's gonna be making a breeding if everything goes as planned. i'm very excited about this one.

i'm only going to be keeping 6-8 total dogs on my place.  3 of the finished product, 3 bay dogs, leah, and this dogo pup if all turns out.

there is a guy buy the house with an Afghan Hound , looks almost alike ... man that dog in the pic is huge , i would hate to see the feed bill on a pack that size ...

I like giving Josh a hard time.  He's a good guy.  Will be down there seeing his way of doing thinks after deer season. 

let me know when you're going down man.  I'm gonna be hunting with him quite a bit.  ain't never hunted with you.  be a good time.

I just picked up L3's new dog, 5/8 Stag, 3/8 Wolf hound. He looks like THE deal to me. Will post up some pics today for y'all to see.

L3's dog shipped in at 6:300 this morning, just a pup but I like is attitude. Looks like he will be big and fast. I believe he is 7 months old, 28" and 71lbs.

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Thats. Blue?    Looks alot bigger then he did in the pictures Josh sent.  Me.   Did u see the pics of his dad.   Is a monster

He is a pretty big dog right now, I like how he is built. The stud dog he is by is a really well put together BIG dog.

Cool looking dog.... The way you describe your hunting method, those legs ought to get him there QUICK!

Steve

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CODY, here she is. Hard to get even this crappy shot as she would not hold still. She is 24 inches at the shoulder. If I had to guess weight, I would say 70 lbs ? She is heavier than she looks, pretty solid build with a strong neck and back legs. Catching on the ear now !

man he looks good.  hope he gets after a hog.  he'll dang sure get there in a hurry at least.

When I lived in San Bernardino, California I was maybe 5 years old and our neighbor had two of those dogs and we use to ride them!!! I always wondered what kind of dogs they were I will never forget them they were taller than me!! Beautiful, big, and gentle dogs. Those are some good looking crosses yall have there.

Paul, these is no Stag in that dog and the reason Josh wanted to try him. You where a little off. He is 5/8 Scotish Deerhound, and 3/8 Irish Wolfhound. Cody's dog is a true Stag with the greyhound in her. Thats why she and Buck are much smaller than this pup at 2.5 years old. And if you talk to the Ozzies about Stags they say that a Stag should only have Deerhound and Greyhound nothing else. Dang good looking pup. I really like that focused look he has.

Wacey, thats the dog formerly known as Blue. I think Josh is going to change his name to Drover.

I haven't seen this new dog yet, but from what Paul tells me, I'd like to cross him over my Daisey dog: 1/2 pit-1/2 Airedale.  I think that might just be what I'm looking for.  She is 1 yr. old, and about 65-70 pounds right now.  Have sent her from as far as 350-400 yds so far.
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Buddy,

Really like the way your girl is looking.....she and her brother are very simillar.  I will put him on a hog next week if everything works out.


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I do like the looks of L3's new male.  I always love watching the running dogs mature.....He will be a big boy for sure. 

buddylee

here's Leah, my dogo x ab female that i'm going to breed to L3's dane, Riddick,  when she's a little over 2 years old.  she's about 10-10.5 months now so i've got a wait yet.

these aren't very recent but you'll get the idea
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She is a nice lookin bitch. Should make some good dogs when bred to Riddick. How does she catch so far ?

  I'm very happy with her.  She hasn't had much exposure as i just barely showed her her first hog just last weekend.  But, i plan on picking up the pace here REALLY soon.  i'm going to start hunting my 2 dogs pretty regular now, and more frequently once deer season is over with.

Butcher how big is ur dogoxamerican bull dog gyp I got one i am bringin up  she will be a year old in march she can run   Takes big strides and will catch and hold a 120 pounder right now

L3's Blue dog shows to be very game. Showed him a pig today and got quite stired up ;D.

she's like 73lbs right now, and about 22.5" at the shoulder.  she still hasn't had her first heat cycle yet.  i don't know how much truth there is to it but they say they still got some growing time left and they taper off after their first cycle.  don't know how much truth there is to that.  but i don't expect her to get more than probably 85-90lbs and probably 23-23.5" tall.   she's pretty dang quick  i don't know how big a pig she'll handle yet.  but once i get her good and holding on the ear then i'll start increasing their size as she gets better.  i'd like to try her on something in the 175-225lb range and see how she handles herself.  a few months of training hogs and staged hunts and she'll be good to go.

that's great news, Paul.  I can't wait to see some field pics of him in some Milo or CRP fields.  I know it's a little early to tell but i think he's gonna fit the bill especially after he finishes growing and fills out.

you get to try that dog out anymore, Paul??

I turned a hog out for him today. He did real good. He can really run and is hitting the hog and spinning him and looking for the ear. Still just a puppy but it looks like he is going to make a hog dog.

awesome, i'm sure Josh will be glad to hear it.

Was wondering if anyone was still breeding these type of dogs

I know that Beetle is going to be bred to a Dogo bitch later this year.

Why I am asking is I just got 2 stag/pit pups and have spoke for a half deer hound to add a little speed to my pack. I was just wondering if any of the guys that made this post were still doing it besides josh and silverton

I had 2 Dogo's that were junk. Got rid of them. Had a stag/dogo/AB that came from Texas. Junk also. Im working with Dane crosses now.

I have one Stag and three Stag X Pit/Dane pups (6months old)

Yeah I am going to see on the stags but have high hopes on the deer hound pup.   I have not had good luck with dogo crosses either. Decent luck with my ridgeback/pits just not quite the speed I was looking for catch good listen just not quite fast enough so this is the reason im looking at these type of dogs.

The leaner Dane crosses are fairly fast. Obviously not as agile though.

The problem people run in to with these type of dogs is they want them to catch like a bulldog , they are not bulldogs , yes they catch an will hold any size hog but they are not bulldogs an you have to know how they work ,

I have a stag that will catch any hog I want him to by himself you just have to know how these type of dogs work , I also have a grey hound gyp that will catch an 2 pups out of them

I have had a few stags I culled there junk in any breed , you got to remember they were bred mostly for coyotes so if you get a good coyote head dog an easy him into hogs they should work good

They also don't usually catch an try to hold the hog like a pit or American bulldog does so that might be where people get confused on how they are working

Dang I didn't know you live in Macon, my grandma has a got a house there, and I also have a bunch of family there. I go there a few times a year.

Depending on where ur here I might be able to take ya huntin as long as u don't tell everyone how sorry my dogs are.

Have two Stags here, 7mths old, from Swamphunter. They'll be out in the field when they're mature enough. The bitch already bays at a hog, lol.
What I am really looking forward to is putting my English Bull Terrier male over my Stag bitch, and putting my Stag male over a very good retired Catahoula bitch here, and running those pups in the future.
My bitch cut herself trying to jump out of her former pen, right on the bend of her leg. Skin tore like paper. (Total Greyhound trait...paper skin.) Finally just healed back up.  That's the only bad thing I could say. These dogs are just amazing so far....they show a lot of promise as they mature.
Like Swamphunter mentioned, while they will catch/hold, gotta remember they can't be treated like bulldogs.

I got 2 gh/pit females im workin on

Swamphunter can you please elaborate what you mean by this quote? I am looking for a good alternative to using pits/bulldogs and was thinking a couple stags may work, but I want to me 100% confident in the dog and their ability to catch and hold a hog. WHat do you mean by how they work? How do they catch differently from bulldogs?

They think about catching an how they are gonna do it not just run full blast like a tank ,
I have full faith in mine an have caught big hogs with him , you just can't start them like bulldogs an you have to learn the dog , they are very smart , people either love them or don't like them at all ,

It is also hard to find a good one

I will agree to an extent Swamp... I don't think they are that smart... Yes they do use their head when catching but as far as straight intelligence I place them way lower on the scale than most dogs. Like I said yes, they are very smart and calculating when it comes to catching. You wont see them getting their butts handed to them by a big boar hog like you would see on a smaller bulldog. Mainly because of their size, they dont loose their footing like a smaller dog would. The only time mine has been hit is on the initial grab after that he is usually in control of what happens. As far as the naysayers who think a small bulldog is better in the thick stuff... my rebuttal is this.. Have you seen a whitetail get hung up in the thick stuff?? ;D  I used my Stag as my only catch dog for the majority of 2012 in some really thick stuff and I would run in behind him as a solo catch dog any day.

Jared,
Your close to my neck of the woods now. We will have to get together and make a run and let Splinter show you how its done.. LOL

On that note.. If a couple of my pups turn out like their dad I will not have a bulldog on my yard

Me and a buddy will be breeding my deuce dog to a 1/8 hot blood 7/8 cold blood greyhound. She is a head dog on yotes and is working good on pigs running with the cur dogs. Handling the briars and stuff real well.

This cross will be used pretty much strictly for open country hunting.