EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I hope I can make this sound right.  But what does it entail if you are thinking about getting a dog that you know is a full blooded breed, or at least suppose to be but is not registered and you are told you can register them.  What and how can this be done?  If the parents are not registered then is there anyway to get a pedigree on the family heritage?  I am not understanding what can be done if anything.  I have one dog that is registered and am looking for a mate for it, but the only pups that I have found around here are not registered and neither or the parents but I was told they can get registered.  All I am wanting to know is how that can be done.  My husband and I have the TDHA Puppy and we don't want to mess up on the bloodline of that dogs lineage, we want to be able to carry on the pride of this breed.  So any information that I can get will be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Robin Borden

DubbleRDawgs

 You guys help me if Im wrong! But from what I understand is that you have got you have at least 3  documented generatoins on both sides before they will look at it.

NALC will register pups with litter papers up untill 6 months old.
Both parents has to have papers to get litter papers.
If an older dog didn't get registered when a pup there might not be a way to get papers after it's older.

Thank you Mr. Mason,

  That is what I was thinking. I raised Registered American Staffordshire Terriors years ago for show and I didn't think things have changed all that much when it came to registering a dog.

Robin Borden

Thank you, I know years ago in some kennel clubs you had to have documented proof.

Thank you,

Robin

Don't know what registry you are talking about, but in our registry a pup must be from both registered parents to be registered. If the parents were not registered but all the litter registration papers are in order for both parents (ie the litters both parents came from were registered but the owners of the parents never sent individual registration papers in) then you would have to pay the fees to get both parents registered before you could register their offspring.

When I see someone advertise that "can be registered" on a grown dog, I take that to mean "you can get papers on this dog but get ready to pay for it". The other thing you may want to look at is what those registration papers mean to you or the people who would buy the rest of your litter. You can weigh that against the time and money it will take to track down all the signatures and pay all the fees to get the papers on the dog.

Cheers
M

Individual dogs can be registered, but the criteria for such is set by each individual registry. The ones that I know of personally are very strict.  The lineage of all dogs had to start somewhere.

For instance, I don't think Weatherford's Ben's ancestory is recorded past one generation.

What breed of dogs are you trying to register? I am having the same problem getting papers on my pups too. I talked to (I think) the CKC ( continental kennel club) and was told that i could register my pups but had to get sworn documents and affidavites from 2 individuals acknowledging the dogs where of the certain breed I want to register. If I am wrong with any of my info please let me know, but I know 1 of the many registries I talked to said that was the steps i needed to do in order to register my dogs but it would start a new line for the dogs. Since we are the subject of trying to register dogs, I have the purchase agreement on the above said pups and think I have been scamed but the paper says the dogs are registered through the UKC but they do not have any info on the owener or his dogs. Does any one know what legal actions could be taken against the guy who sold the dogs to me falsely advertising them as registered dogs? The guy's name is Matthew Egger from Guthrie Ok which is 30mls north of Ok City.

The puppy Robin is speaking of is NALC registerd, a Catahoula, and a very nice one at that. NALC is very strict, if you have a female you should have a "blue" colored certificate with the papers that you send in when the female is bred. It has that individual females registration number on it, and you must have the males registeration number to put on this certificate, and you must have the signature of the males owner
pictures of the female with her litter and specific information on the litter, dates and numbers of each sex.
The registery will then send you back a certificate for each pup in that litter to send to the new owners for them to send in and have the individual pup regisdterd in their (new owners) name.

In order to register a pup thatdoes not have a registration certificate already on it from time of birth you would have to find an "OPEN" registery, and each one of those have their own specific rules to abide by.

But the NALC is a closed registery and only dogs with certificates issued by the NALC will be allowed to be registerd in it and they are slow to be processed.


So anytime someone claims to have a registerd dog, ask "with what registery?" some papers ain't worth the paper they are printed on as anybody can get them on any dog. So make sure it is a legitimate registery, and then make sure you get your paperwork, fully signed the day you get the pup, or it may all be useless.

I want to thank everyone that has posted to my question.  The TDHA puppy is our pride and joy and we do not want to just get any dog to mate with it.  We are very particular, we want to make sure that this lineage grows strong and we can do NALC proud and the breeder of this puppy proud.

Thanks again to everyone,

Robin Borden
DubbleRDawgs