EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

what in the h3ll are people doing turning caught hogs loose. read on here where folks are barrin hogs and turning sucking sows loose. i guess these folks have never tried to make a living raising cattle or hay . i like to catch big hogs too but catch them and kill them. if i told one of the men whose places i hunt/ and they are all cowmen trying to make a living despite high cost of fertilizer feed, fuel,and livig cost despite hogs tearing up thier places and having to plow them up; i would end up in a fist fight and not have any places to hunt.

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Fom East Texas and further east, this has been done for many generations and is still heavily practiced today. Not much for them the tear up in the piney woods and river bottoms. ;)

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Robbie I know just what you mean. But you and I have to understand that we live off the land and they play on it!!!!!!. I probable shoot more hogs riding around checking cows than most of these guys have ever caught with there dogs. But I still like to run dogs on them.

Yeah I hear ya but, the deer Lease I use to trap for wanted me to Barr all boars and all I could keep sows and shoalts. Different strokes I guess

i understand about free ranging hogs. the price of hogs has almost driven this to extinction. i know a guy whose in laws still run some hogs around san jacinto county. im talking about people turning them loose just to catch them again latter on.

go plant some of that high dollar wheat you have to mortgatge your house for, or be a farmer and plant corn or sweet potatoes and you would understand what im saying ,i love hunting hogs just as much as any one here but the rate they reproduce theres no need to catch and release.

Amen on the High dollar wheat.Farmers here want them rascals grave yard dead.

we barr just about every boar.... aint gonna tear up no pine plantation or river bottom like mike said,, cant eat no boar hog....  ;)

Hey RobbieW! I also cut & release Boars & sows because they fatten up and  grow healthier but also because I love the SPORT of Hogdoggin and part of any sport is to get that trophy. Here in Hawaii Pigs along with just about every other imported ungulate leads to degradation of our lands and erosion but so do people. Good luck on your farming!

I am a cattle rancher and work cattle for alot of ranches and we turn several loose and barr them even on my own cattle ranch!! I would rather see hogs than deer!! But I control  how I do this!!  One hint of hog sign in a field they get dog back to the woods!! Tons of hogs in my woods and no damage in my fields!! Alot is how you are brought up and the country you live in!! We remove hogs off ranches that don't want them but we try to get the owner to let us catch them alive and take them to a high fence or to a buyer!! Never had a rancher complain once we explain what we do!!! Lots of place around here ask if we will come cut and release hogs for them and bob there tails so they can shoot the barrs off the deers stands!!! Just how it works and we understand how yall do it just hope yall undertand how we do it!! Not run each others ways down!!  Oh and when we tell a rancher what we are going to do with the hog we do exactly as we said no different! Honesty goes a long way around here!!

i guess yall that catch and release hog,, catch and release rats,grasss carp,pythons,fire ants,cats or any other non indejustice
speices of animals that #$%#$#$ the natural landscape and wildlife like turkeys quail rabbits,horny toads yall get the ideal
 and as forst gump said"stupid is as stupid does"
 Dexter
kill them all  hell buzzard and worms gotta eat too

Hell they put a limit on Gar!! Then we might can get them to put a limit on hogs in easttexas!!  I could careless about a Turkey Rabbit Toad or a deer!! But I like hogs!! So does several others around here!!! Sorry if it offends!! But when I started on this site it offended me to see people killing them but I am open minded and see why yall do it !!! As far as Forrest Gump Goes he is just another actor !! Acting a part!! Sorry but John Wayne was not a cowboy just an actor!! Qoute something from a old cowboy around 75 to 80 and my ears are open!!!  ;) LOL

 " Dexter i done told you 3 or 2 times already yet i want all them someofanotherlessdog dead understand son"
     R.A. Johnston - San Saba - Chappel Texas  RIP
 he passed in 2004 at 93 no movie star no actor but a hard assed old cowboy that meant what he said
 
     

hogs have been a part of the  landscape for 400 or more years. Brought here as a food source and still used in that same manner today. Compare them  to fire ants all you want, but it does not make much sense to me. I will comtinue to practice catch and release where allowed, and I will kill em all where required. In the meantime, I won't bitch about what other hunters choose to do with the hogs they catch. Your time might be better spent bitching about the peta types, not fellow hunters.

East Tx pineywoods,river bottoms and farmland are two different thing as long as we all are enjoying what we do and doing what fits are area and situations we should all be fine....I don't imagine that any hogs off the trinity river make there way to West tx.

Here in west Texas if we turn a hog loose we would be shot by every farmers around they are causing some folks to go dang broke.. I have a buying station and hunt with dogs myself and I dont know of one person who wants these hogs cut and turned out.. I aint knocking you for doing it by all means cause those that do turn the small ones out and recatch later keeps me buyin, but my landowners i hunt on feel way different about it.. I dont let anything go and niether do most around here just cause for every hog caught is a dollar made when there is a buying station around I bet  shipped out 100,000 head documented last year. Hey every one has there ways every man has different habitats.

I am like you chance,, we hunt several cattle ranches that the landowners want them gone or killed, and then we hunt lots of deer leases that want us to release all of em, and bob the tails so the deer hunters can have something better to eat than a nasty ol' boar or a piggy sow. barring hogs has been around these parts for a long long time and there are tons of people around here that still do it. dont imagine it will ever change. and i see no problem with yall killing them out west as for they are costing farmers and ranchers tons of money, but around here the only thing they cost is the corn in the feeders  ;D but i totally understand where yall are coming from, just hope your understand where we are to.

EVERYBODY HAS DIFFERENT WAYS THEY DO THINGS. ONE MAN MAY TIE A HOG WITH MULE TAPE, WHILE THE NEXT USES HOBBLES. SOME PEOPLE LIKE HOUNDS, AND SOME CANT STAND A HOUND. TO EACH IS OWN. IF A MAN WANTS TO CUT AND TURN A HOG LOOSE, THAT'S BETWEEN HIM AND THE LAND OWNER. THAT LIKE TELLING HIM HIS METHOD OF HUNTING IS WRONG. WHEN IN ALL ACTUALITY IT'S NOT WRONG ITS JUST DIFFERENT THAN OURS. JUST MY OPINION.

I personally don't cut and release, simply because of agreements with landowners.  All want the pigs gone either by trapping, dogging and killing or tying and selling.  Thats a good way to get run off a place here.  However, I've always been curious as to seeing how much a barr would grow and the size teeth that could be on a barr given the right conditions.  Guess I'll have to find somewhere else to hunt that will allow be to do that so I can find out...lol.  Don't have anything against those that do either.  As long as we still get to run dogs and catch pigs, do so however legally possible and who cares.  Main thing is to keep the sport going and pass it on, not argue about catch and release vs. dead pigs.

making a living, or just having fun, there will always be split hairs, that big barr i caught , the man who had the yearlings turned out he was running off didnt appreciate it too much

I have been ridiculed for shooting hogs and leaving them in the woods.  At the same time I have turned hogs loose or purposfully did'nt shoot them when I could have because I did not want to waste meat.  Its not so much about the action its about the situation.  Trust me if I have 5 hogs killed and passed up shooting a 6th because I did'nt have time to clean that many or a place to go with that much meat then its my business and no one elses, and I still did more for the landowner than charging 500$ an hour and lying about how many I killed.  Some situations are different, around here people want the hog population under control and thats what I do.  Not even the row crop farmers want them totally gone.  Some places don't have the hog populations others do and some of those same places have lots of hog hunting pressur and no row crop agriculture.  Hogs are just wild livestock, like it or not thats a fact supported by Texas Law.  Its just like any other live stock...if a herd of cows got out and destroyed a corn crop thats a bad thing but it does not mean cattle are like fire ants, it just means they need a better fence to keep the cattle under control.  In East Texas where row crop farming is rare a hog can roam around and not cause anyone financial burden as long as population numbers stay under control.  As far as quail and Turkeys go, row crop farming, and housing developements have done more to get rid of them than hogs ever will.  Just something to think about.

Waylon

It all depends on the landowners request for me.  Most of what we do is hog eradication work for very pissed off farmers and ranchers.  If that's the case, the hog is dead as soon as I get my hands on it.  If that's not the case, the boars are barred and the sows are released if they are in good shape.

we barr just about every boar.... aint gonna tear up no pine plantation or river bottom like mike said,, cant eat no boar hog.... 


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we turn alot of hogs loose that we have barred around here. aint nothing better than baying a big barr hog that you have cut or one of your friends have cut and turned loose.

That's right!!!!

in oklahoma it is a felony to release any type of hog on private or public land , what are the laws in texas , is it not the same

  I own a buying station in malone and i see hogs as m o n e y please catch and release the small ones or the un wanted ones. one day hog lease will be as high as a deer lease

God bless America, fellas this is why we should be happy to be free, over to the east, cut and turn loose....west, kill em' all. Gotta love it, but no reason to bicker and fight over it. Killed in the west don't affect the east, and turned loose in the east don't affect the west. See no harm no foul :P Yall crack me up, don't like to side with no one but yes I have barred and turned loose :o. I'm so ashamed :'(

KILLEM ALL !!  EAT WHAT YOU CAN AND BAY THE REST  8)

Not trying to start an argument, but do all you "there not hurting anything over in these parts" people not believe all the statistical data, maps, surveys, etc that show (the predominantly westward) hog migration?  Google it up and look at migration and population data even just over the last ten years.  Heck, I can't think of a place I currently hunt on that even had a sign of a hog twenty to twenty-five years ago.

Now, unless there's a law saying you can't, I have no problem with what anyone does.  But I wouldn't try to fool myself by saying that what I do over here has absolutely no effect on what goes on over there.

Just my $.02

If you Barr them they're no longer producing migratory rugrats nor do they have any sexual need to migrate. Barring historically not only helps them to fatten up but keeps them in their home range therefore easier to round up in sausage season. I don't know what I'm talking about and that's the dumbest thing ever posted on the forum, but to my knowledge its true.  Cut the next ten boars and mark them and call me an idiot after three grain seasons. If you don't like barrs kill them all, different strokes I guess

I am all for hunters doing what they want. Not long ago on this forum I remember a thread that kind of pointed the finger at people with short range dogs or dogs that they can call back for causing all these hogs to be runners. Is it short range dogs or catch and release programs? ;)

Robbie you bitch too Much! Jus be glad you can still chase a ole rooter ever once in a while.... But you still cant hang wit us CENTRAL Texas hands. O0

my father farms around 15,000 acres of milo, corn , and rice combined. we kill more hogs every year trying to control them and it's like we never killed one the year before.