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Title: b-12 complex Post by: mudhog24 on February 11, 2010, 08:05:04 am does any one here give there dogs b 12 complex or electrolytes before a hunt if so what have you found to work well does any one give there catch dog special proteins like muscle up just wondering
Title: Re: b-12 complex Post by: make-em-squeel on February 11, 2010, 01:13:47 pm the b complex at the feed stores etc are synthetic isolated components of the whole b complex and are crap to be fank. with that said they will work for a season as far as energy goes but not good long term.
electrolytes are great i give them to my dogs durring summer or on back to back hunts, helps heat stroke none the less. If you have the money to get your dogs a good whey protein go for it ... to rich for my blood, They get a raw egg with the shell crunched up, some sea salt (adrenal support), and a tbsp of olive oil (great essential fatty acid for everything) when I catch the mood. hope this helps Title: Re: b-12 complex Post by: 3-Bdogs on February 11, 2010, 02:59:11 pm true b 12 works good and electrolyes work good on energy but you also need to be careful cause on the same note b 12 can boost their metabolism "hints the energy level" and cause them to drop weight they are using b 12 for people on diets i just give mine red cell and dyne helps alot in my opinion
Title: Re: b-12 complex Post by: redriverslim on February 12, 2010, 09:17:33 am You mentioned stuff like "muscle-up". Products like these such as creatine powders, whey proteins, carbofuel, etc. generally anything that you would buy at a GNC store is not good for a dog, and can actually cause more harm than good, in that it can cause them to "run hot". Dogs are CARNIVORES. Their digestive systems are still identical to that of a wolf, coyote, fox or african wild dog. The "muscle" powders are created for humans. Dogs have sharp, long, K-9 teeth (top & bottom). This is nature telling us dog owners that the dog is designed to thrive on RAW MEAT. A good dog in his prime that is fed a good quality dog food, wormed regularly and has fresh water shouldn't need any type of "boost" before a hunt. However, if you have an older dog that may need a boost, supplement them with RAW MEAT. But giving it a couple days before a hunt isn't going to do anything. Also, raw beef knucklebones from the packing house are excellent (2 per week). As for B-12, the best way is just to get a bottle of B-12 injectable, but it needs to be given several days before a hunt, and all it really does is increase PCV (packed cell volumn) red blood cell count and appetite. If you have a old dog, I would carry it to the vet and tell the vet your situation and ask if he can give the dog a shot of Equipoise, however it will take about 10 days for it to really get working in the dog's system.
Title: Re: b-12 complex Post by: muleman on February 12, 2010, 11:13:46 am I use Muscle up for my dogs pretty frequently. It is made for dogs and they have a formulation for horses too. it does wonders for recovery time on my older dog.
Title: Re: b-12 complex Post by: make-em-squeel on February 12, 2010, 11:14:36 am redriverslim makes some excellent points. I slightly disagree with a dog eating healthy dog food in his prime is enough simply because most of us are not feeding them good dog food 95% of affordable dog food is crap. Beefknuckle bones and raw meet/organs---RIGHT ON! GNC is crap and bad for humans or dogs! raw carcus' an egg and some olive oil is all i personally do, with the occational electrolytes durring summer. I also like muscle up for an older dog and red cell is good.
Title: Re: b-12 complex Post by: Cajunjag on February 12, 2010, 06:32:52 pm Sardines in soy oil, egg every now and then, and one teaspoon of Redcell!
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