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HOG & DOGS => DOGS ON HOGS => Topic started by: bayberry13 on March 24, 2010, 02:06:28 pm



Title: Self Proclaimers
Post by: bayberry13 on March 24, 2010, 02:06:28 pm
Here in the Brazos, I've experiened on many occasions that an individual tends to think that every hog that is bayed is because of HIS dog.  I'm not one to get in a pissing contest, but we hunt up to 10 dogs at a time and this gets old.  Anyone else have a quick claim friend (as if no-one elses dogs could or would be the one who found or first bayed every pig caught!).  Funny thing is--when he isn't with us, we do just as good!!!


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: boarwild on March 24, 2010, 02:19:47 pm
i hunt with two guys Marty and Korey.  They both have great start dogs, but when it becomes a pissing contest it causes problems.  They don't compete and i am just happy if my pups make a bay right now.  We don't hunt with other people and the people we did hunt with that always wanted to take credit don't hunt with us anymore.  Every dog will have there days and we all three know who we can except to strike at this point.  Our pups will get better and then it will be harder to tell, but bottom line is we go out to catch hogs, not see who's dog will strike first.  Just my 2 cents but i wouldn't hunt with the guy anymore.  if its on your mind now when your not hunting im sure it bothers you when you are, why have something bothering you when your trying to do what you love.


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: bayberry13 on March 24, 2010, 02:29:16 pm
Very good point and taken.  Been a family friend for years, kinda hard to do.


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: elliscountyhog on March 24, 2010, 02:37:35 pm
Everyone that has been in the sport for a lengthy time has experienced this person a FEW times. I may be one of the few people that actually like hunting with someone like that, y you ask because the look on there face when there dog is licking my boots and mine are still hunting and finding hogs there is NO answer for them to give ;) ;D. And most of the time they are newbies and are excited for there dogs and i have no problem with it, but dont get me wrong it wont be a weekly hunt with them just a once in a while thing ;D Honestly i dont care whos dogs do what as long as i get to listen to the music of the bay and the rush of not knowing what is on the other side of it, heck one reason i get rid of my old dogs i dont have to feed and care for em but still get to hunt whenever i want ;) ;D(Good Friends)


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: BarrNinja on March 24, 2010, 02:49:28 pm
Thats what I love about hog hunting buddies and friends!
When Im doing something that bothers them and I dont realize it, they always let me know! Sometimes they are not even a koolo about it! ;D lol.


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: txmaverick on March 24, 2010, 02:56:59 pm
That is why I hunt alone, that way I dont have to prove to anyone every time it is my dog/dogs that do all the work.

No really sometimes a good pissing contest is needed, it will shut them up or send them home either way what have you lost.

Put up or shut up is what I would tell em.


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: uglydog on March 24, 2010, 02:57:51 pm
Thats why when I hunt with ceratin people we all just know that CHICO gets all the credit even when he is at home in the kennel and we are catching hogs. It keeps things simple that way and no argueing ;)


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: boarwild on March 24, 2010, 02:57:57 pm
oh don't get me wrong i am competitive as well, but when it's over and over agian and there is no telling that person any differently it gets old. yes my buddies will tell me if i am doing something they don't like as well.  Marty and I sometimes just hunt with are wives when Korey can't go and when you get a girl in the mix they will tell exactly what they are thinking.  The hard part is we have a couple of strike dogs that when they know they have help close by they won't even open up, they just latch on, so when someone new comes along and heres there dog open up, they may not realize Marty's dog or Korey's dog is already there and trying to catch.   all in all to me it's about having a good time and catching pigs or getting burned by them, it's fun either way. Maybe take Boarninja's advice and confront him about it in a blunt way or a nice way and see where it goes.  


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: Eric on March 24, 2010, 03:01:27 pm
Hunt by yourself... your always right, you always get all the credit, and you always have the best dogs. ;D


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: BigAinaBuilt on March 24, 2010, 03:15:28 pm
I like to run with alot of different people and their packs when I am getting a dog started and they usually have a friend or family member who also brings a dog so I have ran into this "That's my dog" or "So & so stopped that one" guys on a few occasions but like a few people have mentioned I just blame it on the dog that ain't there or just let it go and hope my dog gets some action that hunt. I have been known to throw down a little wager with friends as we leave the truck on whos dog will strike first or how big of a pig we will catch but it is all in fun and for the drinks at the end of the day.


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: Wolverine on March 24, 2010, 03:59:17 pm
Lesson learned right here boys...  :o

Thats why when I hunt with ceratin people we all just know that CHICO gets all the credit even when he is at home in the kennel and we are catching hogs. It keeps things simple that way and no argueing ;)


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: Kyle0329 on March 24, 2010, 05:43:45 pm
thats why i started hunting bymyself, use to hunt with a bunch of differnt people but sumbody alway use to get there panties in a knot because they didnt get invited and i always got tired of waiting on people, now i either hunt alone or with certain people


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: aladatrot on March 24, 2010, 06:18:58 pm
I am quick to say who I hear at a bay (no matter whose dog it is) because depending on what dogs are there and who is on their way dictates how quickly we try to get there. If I hear tweety and brandy, its not as urgent as if say Tiger (rip) is the one there. If you recognize a couple of the rougher or younger dogs baying, there is more urgency to get there. With older dogs we can take our time. I love the dogs we hunt with even when they are our buddies' dogs. For me, it is just as good of a feeling to hear Smiley, Mandy, or Hunter open up as it is to hear my own dogs bay.

Cheers
M


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: LILLWILL on March 24, 2010, 06:29:52 pm
THOSE SELF PROCLAIMS,,,,,THEIR DOGS WILL MAKE A$$'S OF THEM IF THEY ARE NOT CAREFUL,A MAN I HAVE MUCH RESPECT FOR TAUGHT ME NEVER BRAG ON YOUR DOG OR DOGS THEY LOVE TO MAKE YOU LOOK STOOOOOOPID!!!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: Mike on March 24, 2010, 07:28:22 pm
I've hunted with several people like that... "my dog this", "my dog that", usually the first hunt was the last. ;)

I hunt for the enjoyment, watching the dogs work and the good company of family and friends... not a competition.


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: Bump on March 24, 2010, 07:33:22 pm
Last hunt I made with Richard and Bryant....my dogs had struck and bayed pretty much all the hogs. Most of the time they would be back in the ranger before we even got the hog killed.


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: BIG BEN on March 24, 2010, 07:46:33 pm
No problems here, my dogs suck. ;D So I cant proclaim chit.lol


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: de_moon on March 24, 2010, 08:28:02 pm
Chico has found a LOT of hogs!!


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: BigAinaBuilt on March 24, 2010, 09:27:58 pm
Chico has found a LOT of hogs!!
Would this qualify Chico as finished??  :laugh:


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: BoarBuster67 on March 24, 2010, 09:48:51 pm
lucky for me two of my dogs have high pitched voices. Most of my friends are a little deeper not to mention thats a small pissing match being as you can always look at the garmin and see who is where. Damn armadillos,lol


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: BarrNinja on March 25, 2010, 12:38:54 am
I thought about making an offer on Chico but Im pretty sure that dog is out of my price range!! So put me on the puppy list!!! lol

Mike hit the nail right on the head.

The element of compatition is the whole problem.


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: raider54 on March 25, 2010, 12:43:11 am
Everyone that has been in the sport for a lengthy time has experienced this person a FEW times. I may be one of the few people that actually like hunting with someone like that, y you ask because the look on there face when there dog is licking my boots and mine are still hunting and finding hogs there is NO answer for them to give ;) ;D. And most of the time they are newbies and are excited for there dogs and i have no problem with it, but dont get me wrong it wont be a weekly hunt with them just a once in a while thing ;D Honestly i dont care whos dogs do what as long as i get to listen to the music of the bay and the rush of not knowing what is on the other side of it, heck one reason i get rid of my old dogs i dont have to feed and care for em but still get to hunt whenever i want ;) ;D(Good Friends)

yea I have the same problem Richard! everytime I go huntin with sombody my dogs always bay the hog first, now the more I hunt the worse it gets, my dogs usually have the hog gutted and quartered up before any of the other dogs get there ;D....lol


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: chainrated on March 25, 2010, 11:27:45 am
It's funny to me how many people go crazy when they think their dog struck a hog or bayed one. Everybody likes to have their dogs do good but at least act like it's happened before..


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: Bryant on March 25, 2010, 11:43:31 am
Last hunt I made with Richard and Bryant....my dogs had struck and bayed pretty much all the hogs. Most of the time they would be back in the ranger before we even got the hog killed.

If you could just train them to quit devouring all the hogs they catch so we could at least keep a good count of number of hogs caught, the hunts would be so much more enjoyable.  It's obvious your dogs have no handle.

It's funny to me how many people go crazy when they think their dog struck a hog or bayed one. Everybody likes to have their dogs do good but at least act like it's happened before..

That's funny right there!

There's a real simple solution to all this...Hunt rangy dogs.  By the time you realize on the Garmin that they're bayed and you make it there, all dogs are present and it's really anybody's guess who started the hog.  (Then you can just say it was yours and nobody can argue!  :) )


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: uglydog on March 25, 2010, 12:15:39 pm
Well if everybody you know would call it "Chico" when it happends, strike, stopped and bayed, then caught because of "Chico" this Chico dog would become infamous all over the world, then we can all name our next upcoming pups Chico, Male female it matters not, see where this is going? anyway Chico should be just be in your hunting vocabulary, like "hog" is, and all trhe hunting will get better from there on out. It can be like a conspiracy or something.

on another note, I knew of a guy one that had three male dogs, all yellow/red, all named Sam, I now know why that worked out.

Boarninja, I will sell Chico to you! I have been hunting with the real Chico since he was young and he does his share, but it always makes it more fun to blame good or bad on the poor dog, even when he is back at the kennel. His owner is great fun to hunt with because of the ribbing/joking.


Title: Re: Self Proclaimers
Post by: hogslayer6 on March 25, 2010, 12:31:10 pm
yep those kinda people are my favorite. i just beat them to the bay and tie or stick the pig before they have a chance. teach them to claim hogs i reckon or quit bein an A$$ about how's dog finds them who really cares anyway dead pigs are still dead pigs. you want credit go to a pen