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Who's running Catahoulas on hogs and what bloodlines are you using. I'm running Catahoulas out in Australia with Blair's Diamond Cutter and Camp-a-While blood behind them.

I'm always keen on learning  of some good hunting Catahoulas.

Cheers.

I've got a couple of Catahoulas. I haven't had them that long but I'm really liking them so far. I have no idea what their bloodlines are.

Thanks mate. What sort of country are you hunting? I hunt steep mountain country, flat crop country and everything else in between. Not overly thick in the bush department but there is a few patches that requires some hands and knees action to get through.

You should send a message to TXMason on here.  He breeds catahoulas and has a lot of knowledge of the breed.  and a lot of hog hunting experience.

I have 3 out of Blue Sky kennels that are jam up dogs.I agree with Dabutcher about giving Mr.Mason a call,he is very knowledgable on Cats.He has 2 of my pups right now getting them tuned up.

I hunt some camp-a-while stock too. Which dogs do your dogs go back to?

Downunder, the country I hunt is probably very similar to yours. Not really mountains but good sized hills and knobs with lots of cliffs.

I had a diamond cutter grand daughter but she passed away at 3 she was starting to make a decent dog

I am not sure about bloodlines but my father in law owns 4 Catahoulas he brought in from Louisianna that he swears would out hunt my crosses but we haven't got the oppurtunity to run our dogs together yet. I also have a 5 month old Catahoula/Whippet that I am hoping should come out pretty good, I don't see the Whippet in her as much as when she was weeks old as she is filling out pretty quick. She will be my first experience with a Catahoula and I am looking forward to it after spending some time on this board!

Thanks to everyone.

The sire of my 2 dogs that were bred out here is the littermate to CaW's TomCat, his name is Stretch, he's sired by Diamond Cutter out of CaW's Absenthe, who is sired by CaW's Elvis.

I have a gyp that I imported directly from Camp a While. She is sired by CaW's BossHog, who is sired by TomCat out of 5L's Calamity Jane and her dam is CaW's Jazzmine, who is sired by CaW's Cuttin'Buck out of CaW's Sasafrass. Well, since Sherry Bando retired all her dogs have been aquired by Jim and Donna Whipple of the Diamond W Ranch, but the dogs maintain the Camp a While prefix and Sherry had a lot to do with the early stages of selecting and preparing the pup to come out to Australia. It's a long and bumpy road to send a dog out here, our quarantine laws are very stringent, so a huge thankyou goes out to Jim, Donna and Sherry.


Cheers.

Is your dogs name Aussie and your name Mick? I know Jim, Donna, and Sherry and have two dogs from them as well, both sired by Boss.
Give me a call 405 706 0192  Id like to talk to you

My name is Justin. I am Mick's young mate. My two males were bred by Mick. Mick and myself pooled our resources to bring Aussie over due to the high cost. I care for and hunt Aussie, she's doing great. Very smart and gritty, I adore her.

I'll try giving you a call tonight. Where abouts are you located so I can get the time difference sorted out and what time best suits you? I once called the USA at 2am... I didn't get a very good reception.

Welcome to the board.  Get you a horse and you can gather cattle with your catahoula as well. :)  In your opinion how do the Catahoulas compare to the other breeds used over there as far as the terrain and climate.  How do you plan on hunting them?  What, if anything, do you like bettter about them when it comes to hunting compared to traditional Aussie dogs and what was the reason you decided to go through the great effort to acquire one from the US?  I am just curious about this mostly because the dogs I use are Cur dogs, not catahoula specifically, but very similar and originated in South East Texas which is very close to Louisiana geographically.

It is funny because on one hand some people are importing Catahoulas to Australia and have been for some time and on the other hand some people in the US are adopting the "One out"  hunting style and even acquiring dogs from Aussie blood.

Waylon

Im in the central time zone.

G'day Waylon,

I have always had a fascination with the American hunting breeds. The curs I am especially fond of and the only one I had available to me was the Catahoula.

I had known of the breed for a short while and whilst researching the breed I found there was some in Australia. I looked them up only to discover there was great variation in the Catahoulas being bred here. The breeders ask for big dollars for a pup and if I was going to part with my hard earned I wanted my Catahoula to be exactly what I like. There was also a few other questions raised during my research into the breeders/bloodlines in Australia. Some breeders, either through ignorance or greed, were turning out poor quality pups with health issues, and others were not producing a consistant working Catahoula. I also had trouble finding the background history on their dogs, some didn't want to share and some simply didn't know. I wanted to know exactly what I was getting.

I finally came across a bloke who, like me, was not happy with the current stock in Australia and shipped his own across. This is where I was introduced to the Camp a While/Diamond Cutter dogs. He was all too happy to tell me all about his dogs and where they came from and his dogs were tall and leggy so this is where I got my first Catahoula from...

... There is no breed in Australia that is bred to find and bay. We have our Cattle Dog and Kelpie and they do get the job done but these breeds are bred for cattle and sheep respectively and some don't take a shine to pigs. They work mostly by eye and especially in the Kelpie's case, run on pure instinct when working stock, very few make a top grade pig dog, and the Cattle dog is a heeler that is bred for pushing from the rear not stopping or heading off. Plus I just don't like those breeds. There is the crosses that will bail (bay) and they go alright, but, there just isn't anything with the depth and history behind it like your cur dogs. Also most fellas here use RCDs. Running bailers (bay dogs) is new to me and I've only used them since I took a shining to the Catahoula, prior to that I used only RCDs.

The Catahoula does very well under the Australian conditions. Their endurance and heat tolerance has me hunting them longer and harder during the day, especially when walking the hills and steep gullies, than I ever could with my RDCs. At the end of a big weekend my RCDs are completely spent, they're foot sore, muscle sore and knocked up. I'm pretty much in the same condition as my RCDs and my Catahoula are still running about like fools, their energy continues to amaze me.

What breed of cur are you running Waylon?

Cheers.

x2 on Mr Mason. His word is good, and you can't go wrong with him.

We have mainly Catahoulas, lots of Blue Sky breeding and some Camp-A-While, and a few hog runners. We have a black and tan Cat that is one of the best find dogs around. You cant go wrong with a good bred Catahoula!

Spencer I just bred to Hog Runner male. He was a hell of a good woods dog. What Camp-a-While blood do you have?

Spencer.

There is a bit of Blue Skye blood getting about out here, a fella from New Zealand shipped some Blue Skye dogs out about 8 years ago but a few bone-heads got hold of that bloodline and ruined it. There is only a couple of good ones left now.

Hog Tied.

I will get to calling you, just flat out with work and the time differences clash, I need all the beauty sleep I can get.

I had a Blue Sky bred cat, named Split. He was about 3 when I bought him. Like a fool, I bought him because he was damn good looking, and I saw him find a hog in a wooded pen.  rolleyes Did I mention he was damn good looking!  ;D  Hunted that dog twice a week for a solid year, and he never did do anything worth mentioning. He spent more time jacking with the other dogs on a hunt than he did looking for a pig. Not exactly dog aggressive, he was just always in their business, sniffing their butts, etc.  Sold the dog back to the man that I bought him from, and never looked back.

Maybe he was a great dog, that just did not hunt for me. Maybe he was a product of his environment, in spite of his breeding, as he had a couple of owners prior to my purchasing him.   He has been my only experience with a Blue Sky catahoula. Seeing them mentioned several times on here, leads me to believe that they might produce some good dogs, and that Split was the exception...  I would like to hunt behind a good one some day.

Split - Blue Sky Catahoula
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Wager or Hired Hands , i run pure Hired Hands and 1/2 HH and 1/2 Wager .. good working dogs IMO , partner runs pure Wager .. Hired Hands Kennels is run by Gene Landry (337)394-6563 and Wagers son is the only number i have to contact the kennel ..

Here is some pic of our Blue Sky Dogs. The first two are brothers. They are out of the Blue Sky's Slug, i believe. My G/F is very good friend with Louis and Judy Smith. They are great people and love them to death. The Black and tan one is one hunting Fool! I would put money on him against any other dog finding a hog. The Leopard one runs a close second.
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Here is a big Sow that the leopard dog bayed for over 20min by himself while we followed the black and tan who had bayed on a big boar!
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Here is a pic of the Blue Sky leopard dog, and our Camp-A-While female baying in Winnfield last year.
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hog tied, not sure exactly what the line is, but listed on the papers is Camille, and im wanting to say weems duval. Now don't hold me against it, but i can look at the papers and tell you for sure. Jason Littleton knows the Bloodline on this dog like the back of his hand.

Circle C.

He was a good looking fellas for sure, too bad he didn't work out for you. Do you run any other Catahoulas?

Spencer.

Thanks for sharing your pictures, they're a good looking lot. how do you find you CaW bred gyp compared to your Blue Sky dogs? Out here the CaW dogs are out working the others, especially in the nose and distance department.

Downunder,

We don't have any more purebred cats, but not for any reason. Mike's Tweety bitch is full cat, but her regisration papers did not accompany the dog. We have a Tweety daughter, but her sire was an East Texas Brindle Cur. My Lizzie bitch is likely to be mostly catahoula, but her breeder raises cowdogs and breeds whatever works. There is likely some bmc in her and I swear she has badger in her at times. Chris will have to post pics of these dogs, my phone won't let me post them.

That split dog chris was talking about wasn't a total flop. He should have been a bay pen dog as he was picture perfect in a bay pen. Just didn't work for us in the woods.

Cheers
M

M,

How do you find the Catahoula x East Texas Brindle Cur, I've taken a shine to those dogs, no show inluence there, just good solid working dogs. t's hard to find good working Catahoula from half way around the world, but of late I've been in contact with some good folk running good working Catahoulas.

Spencer,

What dogs does your CaW bred gyp go back to? Why have you not taken her to the woods?

Cheers.