EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

anyone know about the curs developed on the king ranch or any of y'all have any just curious heard a older gentlemen talkin about em earlier said they had tons of bottoms and noses just curious

Their horses, cattle, and deer are awesome.  Hope somebody knows about their cur dogs.

Got a buddy that's got one he's a saddle back colored cur lookin dog he's got brindle legs an chest I had one also that I got from him he was a saddle back also but instead he had yellow on his legs an chest they are huntin SOB's I really liked em unfortunatly he got killed a year ago he was a really good dog I reeally like the way they work

I have had two brothers that go back to king ranch blood. They were both saddle backs, one black and yellow and one black with brindle.  Both damn good dogs but totally opposite of each other. One was probably one of the best dogs I had ever had, if there was a hog around he would find it, would wind off the truck and gritty as hell. That finally got him killed, tried running a vest on him but he wouldnt hunt with it on.  The brother is longer range and wont hardly put a mouth on a hog but is also a damn solid dog.  Both out of same litter and both good but totally opposite in the way they hunted.  Dont know much about the history of the line just know they were out of that line on their dams side.

does anyone know where you could get any at ?

any pics

I am pretty sure they were owned by Joe Stiles. He was a horse division foreman on the King ranch. He left the ranch a few years ago and took the dogs with him. I don't know where he is now, but may be able to find out.

I do beleave Bigo is right!! I had 2 given to me from a guy who worked cattle with him !! One was yellow and the other was lite brindle!!
I called them Calmady and Camotion but they started nice but got sick and died at 9 months but showin lots of promise at that age!! I heard all that blood is gone from them!!Unless some one ealse has it!! They sure looked the part!!

I e-mailed Mike Mayo @ the King Ranch about this and this is what he had to say:

I have been here 30 + years and used to hunt hogs here 20 years ago and I have never heard of one. Sounds like someone put a catchy name on a crossbred dog

I am not saying he is right or wrong but thats what he said ???

well the guy i talked to said the founder of his was an older guy and that was 30 yrs ago when he got his so that guy has prob passed on the other thing is when i was allot younger i got to go to the king ranch and go on management hunts and the way they told us it was ran was in sections and they didn't know anything that other parts of the ranch was doin but that was with the deer so Idk about the rest of it

The guy I got my 2 from name was Tommy Barrows and he worked cattle with them and had pictures of the dogs on chains around cattle stations there were Gert cows in the pictures!!! He also had pictures of the dogs working cattle in different places with differnt breeds of cows and he said the stud dog was the main dog they used on the king ranch!!! He could have belonged to a day worker!!But in the pictures he new what he was doing!!

well i would love to get me a couple

Hey Dude, I think that is the first time I have ever heard you admit that those are good dogs! hahaha  I damn sure wish I had ten more right now just like ol' Luke.

i just talked to joe stiles son, he said they started useing dogs to get away from using helicoptors.  they were dog breaking all the replacement heifers.  he said that he dosent think his dad has any left out of that bloodline.  he also said they had over 40 yella dogs, and only 1brindle dog. 

They come with full quil bottoms and lots of crome on there feet. fully loaded with there own gps and 50000 mile warranty,hehe

I guided some quail hunting trips on the King Ranch but never did see any hog dogs. This was back in the 80's though. I never did hear of them raising any dogs for hogs but that does not mean that they didn't. The King Ranch is a real big place.

We did see a bunch of hogs down there though including javelina. If the bird dogs mess with javelina they just attack as a pack. It would be some easy hunting because all you would have to do is drive around and look for sakawiesta grass. The hogs always laid up in it and we had dogs point them all the time.