EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Wondering who might be running straight pits or dogs that are atleast 3/4 pit. Not talking about a help dog or RCD but dogs that are doing the huntin. I used to have a pure pit that hunted and we only lost one hog due to my bad judgement, not hers.

I don't sir but we have a guy localy we call pee wee who runs nothing but pits, he will take 5 or 6 at a time. He loads'em all in the back of an old 4 wheel drive van and even claims he donesn't ever have a dog fight. He cathes a good number of hogs. His dog's seem to have more leg than most pit's I have been around and they look for a hog on there own

How come you guys think pits don't hunt Im not talking about bullys or any other muscled up dog    they hunt hard  I have no dog fights none for years   none!!  they all ride in the same box I use no ropes    If you know dogs you know it's easy to tell a dog that fights other dogs by the scars I will post some photos  they have plenty leg big heart  Just wondering why you guy's are so down on the pit for all round dog

do your pits bay? 

For one pits cant handle the heat or a long race like a good cur dog, two i want a dog thats going to bay a hog not go for a straight catch, to me there is no sport in having 5 rcds grab on a hog at the same time, now dont get me wrong i like pits as a lead in catch dog but will take a cur over a pit anyday to find a hog.

I use pits as cd's, most I have owned are the short box type, would not be suited well for hunting themselves, just don't have the leg or the lung for running a hog any distance. But I have had hogs break after cd was released and they were able to run it down and stay caught till I arrived, but on the verge of overheating. The way they wind hogs does leave something to be said about the ability to find... They have done it. I do have a young pit with alot of leg and more lung than some larger curs, and on some mock hunts she has found and caught before the curs, but all where young not sure how age will factor in.

I do not run straight pits, however if I could afford enough of them I would run a straight DOGO pack. I do not believe in giving hogs a chance, and all hogs are leaving the field(s) dead. When we go hunting we are going out to kill hogs and help out the farmers. As well as watch good dogs do their job be it a cur or a catchdog.

OK they don't bay you got me  They will hunt in the heat  today 83 70 per sent humidity I caught one boar 100 lbs and a smaller 80lb boar        the summer 95 100 per sent humidity  how much heat are we talking about

If your not seeing legs your looking at the wrong line there are some good running lines they may cost you but well worth it

the heats probably bout the same but in a long 3 or 4 hour race i dont think a pit can stand the heat like a cur can...i may be wrong but after a dead pit last year that we walked into a bay about a half a mile and caught one litter sow he had a heat stroke thats the only reason y i have my doubts....pits do have a lot of drive, but i think they lack in having bottom and a good nose, and thats the two most important things i look for in a dog...iam not saying you cant catch alot of hogs the way you hunt, its just not my style.

For sure the pit race is shorter   I look at it like this your runnen dogs are formula one  The pit top fuel dragster   Is all about what you prefer

lol i like the way you put it...the way these hogs run on the places that i hunt you just have to have something that can stay in the race as long as posible...now if i hunted rice or corn fields that were infested with hogs i would hunt pit and pit mix dogs, but they just dont cut it were i hunt.

my dogs hunt very silent many times they will grab him in bed different style  very short races  a long race for me 2 to 3 hr

ok i can't resist you guys who are talkin about the pits who can't handle heat are gettin the bullys or bully crosses not the old style game dog look it up they have been used way before any of us where alive as huntin pack dogs the ones i am talkin about are lean and have a more narrow muzzle i raise the bullies and know a bit about em but as far as an actual true blood game dog goes they have plenty stamina and make a well rounded dog but  i won't use em cause as stated all catch no bay

for sure it's all about what you like   For me its that action of the catch    There are other reasons I choose pits   they are very obedient  I have not left a dog in the mountains for years unless he was dead  very loyal are the bmc considered one man dogs    most times I have found the more gritty dogs ted to be very close to the handler

Not to be rude but I would like to hear from folks hunting pits or heavy pits, not people who have never done it. I have hunted with pure pits before. I realize they don't have a lot of bottom, i realize they don't have a nose like a hound, and realize they don't work everywhere. The pits I have come from true game bred lines. They are very athletic, have good wing, and my walkin catchdog has found hogs on his own before. I have a cat that will get gone after a pig but most of my properties are too small for her and I can't run like I used too  ;D  If you have hunted with them or know of someone that has or does, how did it go ?

This is probably the greatest misconception that's been propagated over and over on hunting boards. Historically speaking, the APBT was selectively bred for over 200 years for combat and is largely considered to be the ultimate canine athlete. If the above is your general experience with a "pit" then you haven't seen a real APBT (today known as a gamebred APBT)...just counterfeits. In properly conditioned animals...you should not see any difference in an APBT and a cur as far as wind/heat tolerance goes.

The ones have owned/own will hunt on their own, if allowed, and have a decent nose...same goes for the majority of my ABs.

I have a pit gyp that was my main strike dog. Wouldn't put her mouth on a hog till the catch dog got there.

Sorry about that
Do you guys consider the energy lost on the way to the grab?   or waiting on the bay     The pit way of thinking is totally different than your average hunting dog      One thing I work for is control     I work all my dogs with out a leash     The ones that over rev I will make them watch the action until they can control them selfs    This goes a long ways in making a solid hunting pit



That's just what works for me

I can walk my gyp through the woods with no leash and on many occasions she has gone and found her own hog. never had a problem with her gettin over heated and she can keep up with most of my curs. She has even winded hog from the truck.

A good workin pitbull will wind, track, and find its own hog.
Im not talkn about the bully breeds strictly game dog.
My buddy has a grandson son out of Machobuck and hes pretty good on hogs.

Those are the kinds of posts I was lookin for. I had a older fellow tell me today that pits can't swim well and don't take the heat very well and tire quickly. I know better but said nothing out of respect. I don't have the luxury of large huntin properties where my dogs can run for hours trailing a hog. With the hogs gettin smarter and running more I figured that I would run some catching machine with the thought that why run a hog for miles when I can catch him before he has a chance to run.

Most of the guys around here run 1/2 pits or bulldogs for that reason. Some even run their bulldogs, and pits on the ground with the curs. Like I said in my post if I could afford to I would run an all DOGO pack for that reason. I want the hogs caught on sight, and any type of race avoided. I can not have hour long or more races. If the dogs can not stop it and hold it in a short distance then let that hog go. There are more right where they found him.

I had a pit that would hunt all day. Right when i let him loose no matter where we were he would start huntin. he wasnt trash broke He killed any animal he came across. I got him from a friend when he was about 2 and was a natural cd.

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He's a lead in CD, catches straight ear.. his only downfall is that he has too much hunt in him.. For intance if you're a 100 or 200 yardsout from the bay and you turn him loose, he's headed to the bay all business but if he happens to cross a fresh hog track along the way he'll peel off and try and find that hog.. A few times we've had to wait on him to make his way back to the bay before we could catch the hog! lots of times when he peels off though he has found and caught the hog until we get there

this is my dog rose she can find her own hog and have hunted her solo and caught many hogs, i like to run her next to my 4 wheeler and jump hogs, she also runs with my bmc and finds just as many as the cur, she dose get winded faster but she will run all night, the only prob is when she out hunts the curs and finds a bad one and there is no dogs to hear, she hase come back after a few hours tore up, I really would like to use her as a lead in cd but i only have 1 bay dog now and she dont like to hunt alone wont stay with hog too long, but rose can do it all except bay w[(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af345/chopper_2010/109_0074.jpg)IMG]http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af345/chopper_2010/109_0079.jpg[/IMG]hen needed.

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Oboma is a nice lookin dog you dont hunt him with a Garmin.

Ho you guys get some MEAN!!!!  LOOKING BULLS  so nice to see them   They can do it all for sure

I like the looks of Obama 8) He sounds like he would fit right in with my dogs.

Obama is a good looking dog!

Hell i like Obama but think I love Rose!Looks like my ol Simba dog.Nice pics guys.

that Obama looks like he would catch some hogs but when you look at that Rose you know she catches some and she hase the tattoos to prove it,put a vest on that dog.

Why is it that everybody always says runa vest? Vests are not the cure all for catchdogs. If a guy prefers NOT to run a vest that is his right. I don't and NEVER will run a vest on my bulldogs. I have seen too many over heat, and get hung up in brush to justify running one on them. I do run them on my DOGOs but they seem to handle the heat better and I have yet to see one hung up in brush. Now fences and bobwire are another story LOL.

I will get off my soapbox now LOL, but come on folks quit telling folks how to hunt their dogs. Just because you like and run vests does not mean others do.

  So you vest up the Dogos b/c they cost more? I am confused. Pits get hung up in brush but not a dogo? I dont care what someone does with their dog, I am not the one feeding it.

No I am not vesting the dogos because they cost more. As I stated they seem to handle the heat better with a vest on then most of the pits I have seen vested. Most of the dogs at that time that folks we hunted with had had to have the vest removed as soon as we killed the hog, and the dog cooled off as they were over heating. I do not know what it is but when we hunted with folks who vested their pits or bulldogs they were caught up by the brush but the DOGOs never seemed to be, BUT a bobwire fence would cause them hell. I will run my dogs as needed vest or no vest. On very humid hot nights the vests never leave the truck on a dog. Other then my curs bay vest, and I make damn sure it is wet/damp to help with the heat. As he is the only male left out of my old lines and very gritty. SO I am doing what I can to keep him alive long enough for me to get the pup(s) I want out of him. Even then he gets the vest pulled off some nights and I take the chance of getting him killed, BUT then again I run that chance no matter what when ever I drop my tailgate.
 
It is all personal preferance. I could care less what a person ran on their dog. If they ran a pink tootoo and it worked for them great. I just get tired of reading posts telling folks to "vest that dog" as if vests are the end all to problems.

i feel where your comin from i don't care for vest all the time i know this sounds dumb but i have lost more dogs with vest on then without

No that is not dumb just a fact that you have seen. One that I have seen as well. I feel that a vest on some dogs hinder and hurt their hunting ability then helps/protects them.

nice :)