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What's your favorite breed or cross for a running catch dog? Post a pic if you got it.

If I liked the RCD style i would look into the Aussie style of hunting and breeding. Everything from wolf-hound/pit crosses, to catahoula/dogo, or dane/pits. Thats just the american versions of one out or rcd dogs..look into some of there websites I will try to post one for you later. The best 2 I have been around (which isn't many) was a pit x cur and a ridgeback.

I've read ozziedoggers and boardogs websites. My good friend is Australian and he's told me about all the dogs he has used. I'm was wondering what other crosses guys are using like you said a pit/cur, pit/cat, catdo, cat/american bulldog, plott/pit, full cat, full BMC, etc. and get some feedback on which breed/cross works best.

i hunted a pit/cur mix for a whie he was good at stoping hogs, but got away from rcds do to all the vet trips and dead dogs...now i perfer a lead in catch dog

I only have one rcd, I would rather bay and lead in a cd, but some places I hunt I can catch more hogs if I turn out my rcd.  He is a greyhond x dogo and can outrun any hog in the woods.

I agree. I would like to know more about RCD's. I am looking for one myself.

Mine are bmc and i have a cat. More the cat than the bmc. I bring a walk in a cd also for back up if needed.

that sounds like an awesome cross

This dogo/greyhound cross is also very popular in Argentina in the open land areas. They are extremly fast. I had the pleasure once to be out with a group of them hunting once.

They were quite high and very leggy, build to run.

Running Catchdog- Fast with a solid grab. As far as breeds and crosses go, It is in each dogs personal methods and style but I like my Greyhound/Whippet crosses.

MY rcd's are cur x pit or ab, or catahoula x pit or ab. I also run my DOGOs loose on the ground from time to time depending on how and where we are hunting. If I could afford it I would run an all DOGO pack on the ground at all times no matter what an have a help/pack dog that ran with them that would just bay.

why not a dogo x?

When running a pack of RCD you want an "alarm clock" to signal where the catch is  as all the dogs will be caught and some big boys don't scream.

Any pics of these crosses (especially the ones with AB)?

I agree. Greyhound/pit or stag. I'm kinda looking to see what people are using that has a little nose to it and not just sighthound.

I have hunted with other folks dogo crosses and have yet to see one I liked. Most that I saw did not have what I want in a RCD. To me a DOGO is a good rcd all by itself and does not need to be crossed. Not saying some crosses do not work, but for me they are not part of my program.

thats what a garmin is for :)are you saying you want your catch dog to bark?

I like the "alarm Clock" saying. I never thought of that. As it is now I have to either listen hard or track to most of the catches as my strike dog only barks once or twice before catching the hog. Unless it is a rank fighter.

I am not at my computer, but I will see if I have any on mine when I get home that I can post for you.

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Bignasty- I don't necessarily run a "catchdog". I prefer my dogs to break down the pig and then back up and bark. The guys here who do run the Pack of pitbulls usually have a smaller dog that they bring along to act as the barker and when I was in high school I ran 2 pure bulls and a Bull/Heeler, Using the Heeler cross as the "we're over here dog"

 I have saved up for a Garmin 3 times and those random bills show up at the perfect time every time!  :-\ One day I hope to get me one!

any cur, cat x pit should make a good one but got to have that "alarm clock" to find em on them bad ones that dont squeel, or use a good game breed pit I like the old family red noses

10-4 i hear ya but this thread is about running catch dogs i thought

Cracks me up how fast a thread can get off topic sometimes. O0

I dont hunt RCD's or that style but I would sure like to see some pictures.

Honey Fla.cur x Rednose.  She has no bark or rewind to her ;D                          (http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv292/Rickards_photos/004-2.jpg)                  (http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv292/Rickards_photos/001-1.jpg)

That's a nice dog FL Curdog! I've seen her on the GON board too. I really like you Florida boys' dogs!

pics of are pack of cats!!! RCD's ....they findem,run,and catch  ;D and before someone says it yes we run alot of dogs in 5 yrs we have only lost 1 dog and it was a bay dog and only a few have been cut up and no we dont run a long range dog in this style we dont want a long range dog..... askin for trouble if you do!!

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Solid!! pack of dogs !!!!   ONLY GRAB!!

a 10 dog pack of any breed could do that -no sport in that imo -hey watch out for your fingers...lol

the thread is about a running  catch dog -1 dog i believe he wants to know what breed of dog can do it alone? i like catahoulas bro but ...lol

Ridgeback or just picked up a ridgeback dogo am going to try

this is my heaviest hitter  pit  bull ter bmc  he will sit down on any boar we have here
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I see you talkin but..... I dont see you putting up any pics of what your doing!!!!!


this is what he ask!!!! What's your favorite breed or cross for a running catch dog? Post a pic if you got it.

Nice cats! What I am asking is what breed can find and catch its own pig? Interested in running a pair of dogs.

I hear an exceptional rcd is a dane x deerhound....no experience though, whats your thought?

To me dogos are a stronger RCD there are able to hold the hog down alot better so you dont take as big of chance of having your dogs cut down I have not seen a hog able to drag my dogo but I have seen a big boar walking with my pit hanging off of a ear

I can undersatand why some of you guys run alot of dogs on the ground. But what happens when they get on a hog 100 pounds or under? Is there anything left when yoou get to them?

i would go with a pit and rough bmc , why would you watch your dog get drug off nut up and leg the thing

Any pics of the BMC/pit cross? I've seen a few cat/pit crosses and I like them a lot. What would be the difference in hunting a BMC/pit and a cat/pit?

We just got a female stag hound that were gonna cross on a pretty rough cur dog I have.. This dog is built like I have never seen and can absolutely fly. I will try to get a pic of her on here.
We also just had a litter of 1/2 cat  1/2 bulldog pups hit the ground off the same male cur dog we're gonna breed to the stag..

A stag is exactly what I'd be running in the pair with a dog with some nose. That's why I'm interested to hear more about the BMC and cat crosses.

I may have to start a new thread for this. Anyone ever hunted a walker/pit cross? Friend had an accidental breeding between his old walker female and a young pit catch dog.

sounds like it would work ive hunted with alot of bmcxpit catxpit but never tryed any pitxhound but would like to know how they do.

Any pics of those bmc/pit crosses?

this is a breed i'd really like to field test that i haven't seen used. similar crossings but not quite this. and i'd wanna start with with the best possible stock with the propper attributes and abilities. AB X pointer. either english or german short haired.
check these dogs out, the kind i'd like to start with.

http://www.rbkennel.com/sire.htm
http://tauntonbay.tripod.com/photo_gallery.htm (second picture from bottom)

I'd like the muscleing, tenacity and head size of the AB, the stamina, nose and leg of the pointer.

I may be just slow, but why would you breed a "sight" hound to a bulldog? Where I live a sight hound would be worthless. Its thick, wet and you never see the hogs until they are bayed or caught. Neither sight hounds or bulldogs are known for having much nose, they are just not bred for it. So if you are trying to breed for a RCD, that can FIND the hog, run it down and catch it, seems you would have to breed something with enough nose to find the hogs. Unless of course you are turning them out looking at the hogs in a pasture.........then thats hog catching...not hog hunting in my opinion....

Seems lots of guys are searching for that "magic cross". I think that can be done in one breed by just breeding similar dogs that have the characteristics you are looking for. When you start crossing totally different types/breeds of dogs you are really rolling the dice and betting against odds the dog will come out like you want. Too many variables and you will end up with a lot more dogs that WON'T do what you want than what will do it. I am sure there are exceptions, but I dang sure wouldn't base my breeding program around that type of cross.......

If you want a close hunting, rough, catchy type of dog there are plenty around. Just find someone that breeds that type of dog and get a pup. I would hope those odds would be better at getting a RCD type of dog , than by crossing a non hog dog breed into something else and hoping it works........

As far as having numerous dogs out at once, I don't hunt like that and never will, but some guys do. To me its all about the dog doing a good job. If I have 1-2 dogs out I KNOW which dog is doing what. With 8-10 dogs out I feel you are just hoping something out there can get the job done.......it doesn't take that many dogs to find/bay a hog....ever.

Most guys just have no confidence in their dogs. Of the guys that hunt packs of dogs, how many will load up ONE of those dogs and drive an hour or more to hunt, and NOT take any other dogs?? Very few I bet. If you would do that, hunt one or two dogs at a time, you would soon learn what dogs are doing the work, and which dogs are just along for the ride........

to me a rcd is a dog that is going to catch not a gritty bay dog so in my books a rcd should be able to hold it own solo with no help . i have a pit x lacy dog that will find a hog stop it catch it and never bark unless is Big and thats the lacy in him barking not saying anyone is worng but to me a rcd should be strat bull dog of sum kind any cross with cur i have had will bark if it gets to bay

I hear what want everone is saying, but some places I hunt the big boars will not bay period.  The
 only way I know to catch them is with a .30 cal. Slug or a pack of RCDs.  This is not my prefered method of hunting which is running 2 or 3 strike/bay dogs and a lead in catch dog and tie the hog.  This method will not work with some boars, because thay will not stop.  I'm considering breeding up RCDs for
this purpose pit x greyhound dogo must have speed stamina and lock down catch.  I know this cross may not have the best nose but I plan on running a couple of srike dogs as well.  If anyone has dogs that will catch the nonbaying running boar please come hunting with me I know were they are.

Personally I dont hunt that many dogs on the ground but just because you do dont mean any one of the bunch cant get it done. With todays technollogy I could have 8 dogs on the ground and pretty much tell you when one has stopped to take a number 2. I know Jessie hunts several dogs sometimes and I can gaurantee you none of them need any help. Its just what you like. You dont like it but some do. I dont really agree with hunting a couple of rough dogs with no catchdog to back them up. But some do.

some time I just let my dogo run she will wind a hog and when she takes off the hog is as good as caught she has not let one get away yet knock on wood

I'd seen that a lot of dogos could find their own hog but man they are expensive. I don't think I'll be trying one anytime soon!  ;D

that snooky dog that i sold had found her own hogs 2 many times  i guess its the dogo in her

My female dogo has found and cought her own hogs many times as well. I can not stand this in a catchdog as if she is running to a bay and one crosses her path she will go after and catch it. While this results in more then one hog caught, it puts her in more danger as she is alone and with out a vest on. As she will not hunt with one on.

My old cur x pits used to be 100% catch untill they got some age on them and started baying the older they got on rank hogs. However if that hog tried to break an run it was caught and held no matter what.

It sounds like BMC/pit or Cat/pit is the way to go!

crackerc- pointers have excellent noses and used in lots of crosses over here and are one of three breeds used to create the bull arab. the most widely used and proven runnin catch dogs in the country. to us the bull arab is as popular as BMC's are to you guys. i was just puttin the pointer bulldog idea out there. i know the most guaranteed you can get is to get pups from proven parents

all we use is two dogs  and get the job done no sence in 10 dogs rippin a hog to shreds but  everyone has there own way i guess

    Exactly

I like the dogs you boys run! I see how many good hogs you catch on the GON board. I wouldn't mind running a FL cur dog!