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Title: fair trade???
Post by: hogslayer6 on May 20, 2010, 02:21:38 pm
what would you call a fair price on a dog? just for this thread lets say hes 1 1/2 unregestired bmc that would hunt well for his age and has bumped his own pig and would go a bay and be able to hep once there. questoin originates from me looking at dogs and seein some what i think are really high priced dogs.


Title: Re: fair trade???
Post by: Bryant on May 20, 2010, 02:26:50 pm
what would you call a fair price on a dog?

Only two factors determine a dogs worth.  How much you like him, and how bad you want him.  Beyond that, could be anything from free to $5,000+  What's worth a lot to me, might be worthless to someone else.


Title: Re: fair trade???
Post by: S_J_KENNELS on May 20, 2010, 02:28:08 pm
0-$300 depending on how he hunts and if he hunts like I want him to. Also you have to think about how much $$$ and time the current own has in the dog. I do agree how ever that some folks ask more then what any dog is worth to me at least. I have yet to see a dog I would pay more thn $500 for, and I have seen and hunted with some damn good dogs over the years.


Title: Re: fair trade???
Post by: hogslayer6 on May 20, 2010, 02:33:21 pm
i would say no pig dog is worth 5k but you make a good point. also why do guys want to factor in what the previous owner has in the dog? that change the dogs worth imo that was just part of the contract he signed onto when he got the dog?


Title: Re: fair trade???
Post by: TxHogDoggin on May 20, 2010, 02:37:16 pm
Dang near everydog I have hunted has been 150 or less. But just about everyone I have gotten for free out hunts the dogs that I pay for. If you have the money you can buy a high dollar dog but I don't have hundreds of dollars to spend and if someone really wants you to have their dog you won't have to pay for it.


Title: Re: fair trade???
Post by: 3-Bdogs on May 20, 2010, 02:41:36 pm
imo there is allot to factor in as stated the biggest factor is how much you want to spend because that's all that it boils down to


Title: Re: fair trade???
Post by: ETHHunters on May 20, 2010, 02:45:28 pm
The deal with selling a top of the line strike dog is you can not replace him. I dont care what you get for him you cant find another dog to replace him with. I have been fortunate enough to own a dog like this and if I decided to get rid of him or any of my dogs I would offer them to my hunting buddies first. And Im not talking about pricing them to them. I mean give them to my buddies if they wanted them. And if for some reason they didnt want them then I might sell them but it wouldnt be for $400 or $500. If you cant see that a dog is worth alot of money then you havent had one or tried to keep one. They arent around every corner or on the dog trade. A dog is always worth more to the seller than the buyer.


Title: Re: fair trade???
Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on May 20, 2010, 02:45:43 pm
Anything is worth what someone will pay for it, and still feel like they got the better end of the deal. 


Title: Re: fair trade???
Post by: Randy_P on May 20, 2010, 02:55:13 pm
I would have to say that ETHUNTERS nailed it on the head!!!


Title: Re: fair trade???
Post by: hog428 on May 20, 2010, 03:07:10 pm
I breed and train dogs for sale It's what I love to do my goal is to have a buyer come and tell me I have sold them the best dog ever owned this feeling money can not buy      It takes allot if time and money to produce top dogs as for pricing it's what the market will allow      All dogs are guaranteed period......... if dog does not work for you  money back or another dog no questions you can check my rep on this one      Some times I will get a dog that is very picky about who they will hunt with so when selling my dogs I try to match dogs to the hunter           I have never seen a 5000.00 MARKET FOR DOGS   BUT I'M OPEN


Title: Re: fair trade???
Post by: Bryant on May 20, 2010, 03:23:07 pm
I have never seen a 5000.00 MARKET FOR DOGS   BUT I'M OPEN

Baypen dogs.  That would only scratch the surface on what some have traded for over the years.

A $60k Ranger's not going to put you on any more fish than a flat bottom with a 10 horse, but last I heard Ranger wasn't running short on buyers.


Title: Re: fair trade???
Post by: raider54 on May 20, 2010, 03:41:01 pm
The deal with selling a top of the line strike dog is you can not replace him. I dont care what you get for him you cant find another dog to replace him with. I have been fortunate enough to own a dog like this and if I decided to get rid of him or any of my dogs I would offer them to my hunting buddies first. And Im not talking about pricing them to them. I mean give them to my buddies if they wanted them. And if for some reason they didnt want them then I might sell them but it wouldnt be for $400 or $500. If you cant see that a dog is worth alot of money then you havent had one or tried to keep one. They arent around every corner or on the dog trade. A dog is always worth more to the seller than the buyer.

Very well said Ethh, I wouldnt have taken 10K for my Clay dog! Was he worth it? Probably not, but he was to me. I doubt I could find another one like him despite how much money I have. Clay died of a stroke about 4 mths ago. You were right when you said until you own one you cant understand!


Title: Re: fair trade???
Post by: S_J_KENNELS on May 20, 2010, 04:29:51 pm
I have owned 6 dogs that no money could have bought them off me and I had several offers. SOme on here had hunted with them when they were still alive. With that said I personally will not pay nor seen a dog I would pay over $500 for. That does not mean I would not sell you one for that or more LOL. I rather raise(breed and train) my own then buy. I have had more luck with potlickers from my own breedings or free mutts off the road then ones I have paid for. Most of the dogs I pay more then $200 for either don't make my cut or don't work/hunt for me.


Title: Re: fair trade???
Post by: matt_aggie04 on May 20, 2010, 04:36:57 pm
Value is a funny thing because its so subjective.  Things are only worth what someone is willing to pay and it is only a good deal if the buyer and the seller come away pleased.  There is a difference between a "good deal" and a good deal.  I have free dogs and I have owned dogs that I paid a thousand dollars for and I will say that all of them were a good deal.  I am funny in that I want good dogs without having alot of money invested in them initially if that makes sense.  I don't mind time and energy invested but I just don't see myself paying a large sum of money for a dog as long as the Lord lets keep one worth feeding to train puppies with.  Having said that in a bind if I needed a dog and the right one was in front of me and it could be bought I see it as nothing more than an investment in my hunting future and try to determine the value that dog could bring to me and puppies in the future.  Just my rambling thoughts on the subject....


Title: Re: fair trade???
Post by: dub on May 20, 2010, 05:09:10 pm
Value? Dude I took economics and they had a definition but I don't remember. Fair trade is whatever two people agree to. If it is my dog and it is not for sale then it is priceless. When in court the will come up with a dollar amount. The bottom line is the price is at or above what someone wants to sell it at and at or below what someone will buy it at. I know people that pay big bucks for a dog. But if you go to a car lot the price drops depending on how bad they want to sell it and goes up depending on how bad someone wants it.


Title: Re: fair trade???
Post by: HIGHWATER KENNELS on May 20, 2010, 07:04:10 pm
Every man to his own notion, but for a help dog in La. One that will honor a bay and is considered a me too dog, the goin rate is about 200-300.  A feller puts time ina dog and takes him to woods and feeds him from a pup, starts him in a pen and puts a slight handle on him loadin up in the truck and on the 4 wheeler, to me it is worth 200-300 dollars.. Heck a man will spend a hundred dollars on a unregistered pup straight off the dam and not know what hes got, the other hundred dollars is worth the time and effort the previous owner spent with him..