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HOG & DOGS => DOGS ON HOGS => Topic started by: bayhard on June 06, 2010, 08:40:54 am



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Post by: bayhard on June 06, 2010, 08:40:54 am
how many of u r not open to hunting with new people and why this is sumthing that ive been thanking about


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Post by: Florida Curdog on June 06, 2010, 08:45:41 am
I usually just hunt with the same people I have for years. I have been invited to some good spots but just don't like the idea of hunting with a bunch of people I don't know. I hunt solo or with one or two people and two or three dogs at the most. I like when we are in the woods you don't have to tell anybody anything they already know what to do.


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Post by: Purebreedcolt on June 06, 2010, 08:51:09 am
I can't stand a lot of talking and cutting up guess I am too serious and with people talking and dragging their feet I can't hear nothing but them and I like to listen to what is around me


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Post by: bayhard on June 06, 2010, 09:15:08 am
what im trying to ask is ive got dogs u got dogs we live close together but neter wont to ask if the other would like to tag along 


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Post by: S_J_KENNELS on June 06, 2010, 11:15:57 am
I don't mind taking folks hunting with me as long as they do not have dogs of their own or such like LOL. Unless they are from aways off and do not live close by. As I have taken folks from around here before and had them go ask the farmers and ranchers for permission to hunt, and use my name as a referance to get that permission.


Title: Re: open
Post by: bayhard on June 06, 2010, 11:41:11 am
and thats worng becuse if they would of called u and said lets go hunt that place u got u most likely would of went rite


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Post by: TxHogDoggin on June 06, 2010, 11:45:00 am
I can't stand a lot of talking and cutting up guess I am too serious and with people talking and dragging their feet I can't hear nothing but them and I like to listen to what is around me
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Post by: bayhard on June 06, 2010, 12:01:10 pm
y istarted this post is there is always a person in town that has a lot of places and me not being the kind of person that trys to take someones places i ask the man to let me come with him and he declind now i have good dogs and i told the man if he had a problem thanking my dogs would trash come to one of my places and watch my dogs hunt and he declind again and this made me upset then he hears i hunt with someone else and then im good enuff to hunt with him whats with this 


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Post by: cward on June 06, 2010, 12:07:27 pm
Bayhard I  have hunted with several different people some I will hunt with again and again just good people some I will never hunt with again just Idiots!! We enjoy hunting and always work it where you use your dogs this morning  I use mine in the evening!! Or try to match the dogs to where they fit the pack!! Most guy's know what there dogs do and if one's alittle rough then he will say he is rough just work around it!!! But I feed alot of dogs and train the pups by myself perfer no one with me when hunting pups!!!

Some people got to build a trust with you!! There's alot of equiment,fuel,deer and other things on the place's that I hunt and would only take someone I trust that would not shoot a deer or steel fuel!!

He might have heard that you was a good guy and don't mind it now where before just didn't trust you!!


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Post by: S_J_KENNELS on June 06, 2010, 01:00:15 pm
and thats worng becuse if they would of called u and said lets go hunt that place u got u most likely would of went rite

If they would have called and said lets go hunting. Then yeah we would have gone there in all likely hood. As other then these three places he only had one and did not have the dogs to stop the hogs there, and it was a pain to hunt as well. I think that is why he did what he did, but it still did not matter he only would catch one or two hogs in about 5 or 6 hunts out there. While at the time we were catching 3 or 4 every time we went. In the long run it came back to bite him where it hurts. That is why I am VERY picky about who I let go hunt my places with me now. An why it is mainly my father, nephews, sis in laws BF, and a good friend from work that go with me now.


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Post by: Tusk Hog on June 06, 2010, 02:19:36 pm
   Bayhard, one thing you may need to consider is how hard the other hunter has had to work to get a well established reputation to get the land he hunts. Not to say there is anything wrong with yours. Sometimes you just need to " pay your dues". When I started I was on my own, no help. I made my mistakes and lots of them. Now I'm in the drivers seat with good dogs and lots of land to cover. I take friends with me, some with dogs and some without. Very few have the drive to dedicate the time and most of all the money to be really successful. Those that do I help as much as I can. If they come to me I expect them to listen. If not they're out. So if you get the opportunity at some point to hunt with someone always give respect. They may just be testing you or they may just be a hard headed A-hole. Good Luck, and good hunting!


Title: Re: open
Post by: bayhard on June 06, 2010, 02:41:58 pm
tusk hunter where r u from


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Post by: Tusk Hog on June 06, 2010, 03:17:36 pm
    Bayhard, I'm in northern Lampasas county.


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Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on June 06, 2010, 03:48:46 pm
Being curtious to someone does not mean owing you the opportunity to hunt with them.  Work on getting better spots yourself.  Problem solved!


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Post by: BigAinaBuilt on June 06, 2010, 04:03:41 pm
There are many of reason why I prefer to run alone at times and others with certain people. The dogs involved, Past experiences with people or the spot we're planning on running. I try to never take or make anything personal whether I ask to go with someone or they ask to go with me and I would prefer to go alone. I have a friend who for the longest time I had to call to ask if I could tag along and always got turned down but today he is training young dogs and needs my "more experienced" dogs to turn his on and he calls me at least every other week to go, I don't believe in being silly so I have no problem running with him now. Don't let other people get you down, Just do your own thing and keep life positive.


Title: Re: open
Post by: bayhard on June 06, 2010, 06:20:53 pm
ive got my on places not needing place im just the kind of person that likes to see how others hunt maybe in a way i thank i could learn sumthing i dont know already


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Post by: Purebreedcolt on June 06, 2010, 10:06:50 pm
Hey tusk hog msg me I have a couple of questions for ya I am in southern erath not too far from ya but am on a phone and don't know how to msg someone first but can reply once they msg me


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Post by: duece24 on June 06, 2010, 11:31:55 pm
bayhard this hoghunting thing is real funny like...if you get on this board people will help you out a ton with general konwledge, but when you ask to tag along many won't do it. there are few good ones on here that will give you a trial run and based off of that first impression they might ask you to go again. those people are few and far between. then there are the people that won't take you unless you have a place of your own to return the favor. that's cool too, they figure if you have your own place you won't steal theirs.

you can't let any one person or even a group of people get you down. i took me almost 2-3yrs to get the ONE place i have now. i was strictly a tag along hunter. luckily people didn't mind me bringing my dog and let me train mine with their more experienced dogs. some of the people that i started out hunting with sparingly i havent' hunted with in years, but i still consider them great people we just haven't hunted in a while. they still help me out and i do the same when i can. i've met a couple of other people that i hunt with more regularly.

the only reason i don't invite many people to hunt with me is the landowner doesn't want a lot of people on his property and we are having a huge problem with poachers(one even put up a friggin' home made hog trap on the land and cut fences to do it). many people on here have had really bad experiences with people that aren't real serious about it and dont' have "hog hunters sense". many times you need someone that can vouch that you are a good guy and a moral guy before they will take you..which can be hard because if EVEYONE is looking for a reference before they will take you how can you get that first reference..lol..

keep your head up and don't hold grudges..that person may turn out to be your best hunting buddy from now on...


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Post by: jkcasey on June 06, 2010, 11:51:51 pm
I'm open to new or other people going. There isn't too many people from here that run hog dogs. Who is going to laugh at me when I say something funny or my dogs run a deer?  :D But really,  I would have been in a jam a few times, if I wouldn't have had someone else along and an extra pair of hands. The only rule I have is, I have a gun if we need one, so leave yours at home.


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Post by: Nickjones on June 07, 2010, 10:12:07 am
i stuck my neck out once for a boy who was just getting started and needed to run his dogs with some finished dogs. My only rules when i take someone hunting with me is do not whoop or kick my dogs and do not hunt my places without permission. If someone was to call and ask i more than likely would let them go. Well i notice the hog are starting to run more and there isn't as much sign anymore. Then one day i get a phone call and the guy i took hunting was on the other end of the line and he said that they had a hog caught on my hunting place and wanted to know where the gap was so they could go in and get it. Since then there have been game cameras and feeders come up missing. and the finger gets pointed at me. Since then i have only taken three people hunting. U stick your neck out for people and they just cut your throat.


Title: Re: open
Post by: bayhard on June 07, 2010, 06:23:24 pm
ive got places and good dogs and i will take anyone hunting one time becuse ive got a place with a good land owner that i no that will tell them get out of hear and the way the place is shaped it would be hard to traspass the place ive hunted with alot of people on sum of my places and had dry runs and they didnt come back i hunt for freinds and fun thats it its not a contest


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Post by: zachW on June 09, 2010, 09:45:40 am
Thats the only way to hunt, the other night i got stuck having to take the land owners son and his friends, man it was rough, about a waste of 4 hours of my life lol, some people just htink they know everyting and want listen


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Post by: BarrNinja on June 09, 2010, 10:57:34 am
how many of u r not open to hunting with new people and why this is sumthing that ive been thanking about

how many of u r not open to hunting with new people and why this is sumthing that ive been thanking about

Sometimes I am and sometimes not.

I try to take new people hunting with me as much as I can and do my best to promote our sport to them wile showing them a good time and hopefully a successful hunt. 99.9% of these folks will never own a hog dog but, maybe hunting with me will have a positive affect on them in some way and benefit all hog doggers down the road. Educating voters and future voters to our sport in a positive light will only help.

Other hog doggers is a different story. I have been in the hog hunting business long enough to be a little cautious with others that I have never hunted with and I recommend that others be the same way. Find out a little about folks before you hunt with them is all Im saying.
I have made some life long friends because Im open to hunting with new folks but I have managed to unknowingly mingle with a bad bunch a time or two also.
I found out I was poaching one time after half a day of being on the place I was invited too! :o. Never hunted with that bunch again and never will! That stuff is serious to me and we as hog hunters should always be concerned about our personal reputation and upholding the law. Hog hunters with integrity can have good dogs also! lol. I know a few. ;D

Young/new hunters are yet another category for me. I try to help these folks out when I can and do my best to put them on the right track of being good ambassadors of our sport. Not so much with hog hunting or dog training wisdom even though I am the BoarNinja! lol :D. Just doing things the right way as far as handling people and landowners/property and what can be done for a better outlook on hog doggers in the public eye.
Thats one reason I appreciate this board so much and the information that is shared with the new guys. You dont always get good advice on here but its rare that I see bad advice go unchallenged.