EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I rescued a few catahoula pups from a bad situation.  The mother wasn't being fed properly and quit nursing.  The one I posted about under sick pup died last night.  

The lone survivor needs to put some weight on quick.  He is almost 6 weeks old and skinny as a rail.  He is bottle feeding (similac and whole milk) and just starting on bread with milk.  I hit him with some nemex, and he's been passing worms like crazy.  

Can I start putting rice bran oil on his food now or do I need to wait a few more weeks?  Any other suggestions?  I really appreciate any suggestions.

i feed my pups cottage cheese and scrambled eggs works good for puttin weight on

In addition to the scrambled eggs, you can also just add an egg to the milk, mix it like you are gonna scrambled it, but let him have it raw. Less time consuming, and he still gets the proteins from the egg that he needs. Oh and to keep his blood sugar up, mix a table spoon of cairo syrup in the milk as well.

Thanks for the tips.  It looks like eggs are for supper.

he could have started eating meat as early as 3 weeks just for futures reference, DO NOT FEED the dog, or puppies bread! That is ceraeal grains and dogs are not vegetarians. Alot of dogs have cereal grain allergies, and will have immune issues & skin issues and alot of issues your VET will love to make nmoney off you from.

Thats kind of you, to try and take care of the pup, whole milk and similac are for humans, if you need to give milk then try goat milk, or a powder mix unimilk replacer, or even better  puppy milk replacer is best, WHOLE milk is not good on their stomach.

If he is sickly go buy RAW chicken wings, use kitchen scissors and cut into 4 quarters per wing and offer that to the pup and see if his whole health does not come around in a day or two, when it starts getting some nutrition his body can actually process. DO NOT FEED COOKED CHICKEN BONES TO A DOG, ONLY RAW MEAT & BONES

Thanks. He will have chicken for dinner tonight.

TinyTexasCowgirl  I think he liked the raw egg last night.

Good luck! and he is old enough to eat dry dog food just find something with high calories (high fat and protein) its a little higher priced, but you will feed less than a cheaper priced feed and the pup will get alot more from a better quality feed.  Smaller kibbles for a little pup is easier for them, but the hard texture is good for the teething process as is the raw meat and bones. If you can feed the RAw meat and bones full time do the research on how to balance the nutrition so the dog will get all the vityamin requirements he needs to develop properly with the variety of fish & organ meat that contains all the vitamins.

Dry feed I like a 20% fat for pups or higher. It does not have to say puppy feed on the label, that always cost a little more, but you getting the same in a very High energy performance dog feed from your local feed store.

A guy told me to give skinny pups petalite, and or ensure, is that a good idea

Might wanna try some dyne.

All those as supplements are good. Electrolytes to help prevent dehydration, Dyne has extra vitamins, Good quality dog feed should have needed nutrients, but you never know for sure. However the body can only use what is needed the rest just passes through, it does not store it, not can it use up extra.

Uglydog,
Funny you should mention skin problems. He was developing lil pockets of puus right at the skin. They pop and just turn into a lil sore. None of the spots have scabbed over or healed. I make sure to keep his kennel clean.  What should I do to prevent and/or treat the sores?
Thanks Ya'll have been a great help.

Good chance there is some fungal issues going on top of all the other because the little thing has a tough time and stress also equals immune issues.

I would try a warm bath with a little betadine scrub, wait a couple days and do the bath again. This way you are treating the little fella from the inside - nutritionally and from the outside with a bath.

don't get any of that stuff in eyes , nose or mouth though.

UglyDog THANKS A MILLION TIMES OVER :)  You have been a great help.  He is doing much better.  I will try the betadine scrub tomorrow.  Pics to come.

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Hog bit, Just a heads up, I just got back from my vet with my young pup, and she has almost the exact same "spots" going on with her, guess what, Staff infection! Might need to have your pup looked at.

I have a pup that had those and the hair would fall out..took her to the vet and it was called red mange..it is little mites under the skin that eat the hair folicle and then the hair falls out..causes them to itch like crazy thus making the sores..it takes some kind of medicine they put on at the vet, then benadryl for itching, fish oil capsules for imflamation, and a multi pet vitamin to build up the immune system, plus the vet will need to give it some antibotics for the sores for they will cause a secondary infection..believe me it is scary but not contagious to humans or other animals..hope that helps you

Have you been deworming the little thing?
 Can't tell what the spots are from just looking at, but if they are spreading and growing needs to go to the vet to get a skin scraping to confirm to be sure to get the correct diagnoses. Good luck

Uglydog. Yes I did worm him 2 weeks ago.
I just called the vet. They can't see him till Tuesday.
I bathed him in iodine shampoo on Wednesday. I will bathe him wirh it again today and Sunday.

The vet took one look and said that's definately ringworms. He also has coccidia. 
Doc prescibed albon for the coccidia and a topical rub (Cohofite) paired with continued iodine baths for the ringworms.

Thats good news! You should see a big turn around in that pup now that you have it on Albon, that Cocci will kill such  a small pup in hurry, it must have a strong will.

I took this pic today at the vet's office.  He weighs a healthy 14.4lbs at 13 weeks old.

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Thats a helluva turn around! Lookn alot better.

good lookin lil fella hope he turns out for you

wow hes lookin good

thats Good news!

Call it soft hearted or whatever but that dog will never forget what you did for it....

He definately has heart. 
Hopefully he'll learn what a pig is tomorrow.  If he treats that pig like he treats my 8 month old Mt Curr, I'll be happy.

that is one heck of a turn around! pat yourself on the back. seriously way to go

Here he is three days after I got him.

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I hope to have some pics of him bitin a hog tomorrow.

my god what a difference!

Don't get your hopes too high, he is aweful young yet to see a hog or a pig of any kind other that the kind you find in squeaky toy form!

Uglydog,
He did about as good as I could hope for.  While I had the pig tied, he walked over smelled it and walked away.  When I went to untieing the pig went to squealing.  He let out a few barks then just watched.

I would give him sevderal months, would wait until atleast a year before I would think he would show you the gratitude for taking such good care of him

Roger that Uglydog. I will let him live the good life for a while. Right now I have him and an 8 month old that run loose in the back yard. She gives him hell, but when he has enough he let's her know.   He definately has heart.

Good luck and make sure you keep us all posted, I guess you can tell several folks are really rooting for him! and we don't even know his name!

Thats one heck of a turn around. You saved littlel pups life. Got to give you props for doing that. Hope that it turns out for you. Either way you did more for that pup than alot of folks would have.

I originally named him Boy asm pronounce by Foghorn J. Leghorn (The big rooster).  The wife firmly said no.  Since she is dead set against anymore dogs; she thinks one is too many.  I compromised.  He is now known as Billy.

Billy is doing GREAT! He will be seven months on the 12th.  He weighs 35lbs.  I think he is a good looking dog.  I showed him a hog for the first time a few days ago.  The link may or may not work.  I had to use my phone to upload and get thie link to youtube.  Thank you awesome firewall at work.

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The bigger brown dog pretty much ignores the pig until it ties to move.

Good job saving the pup. You've got a buddy for life whether he hunts or not ;)

Well bless his little heart,....what a tough nut he is. Congrats on getting him mthrough the tough times, after seeing the pic of him when you first got him, I wouldn't have given 2 cents for his chances of making it. You did a hell of a job with him.

Thanks for all the kind words. He is a tuff lil dog. I took him to ten mile outfitters today, and he made me proud. Tomorrow I plan on turnin one loose in the yard to see how he does with a pig that can move. The one in the video was tied.
Did the link work?

Hello,
Great job. That little rascal will be your best friend for life... As far as the link I could not get it.

I let Billy bay some pigs in a trap for a while today while I snapped a few pics.  He stayed about ten feet from the pen working circles the whole time. 


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he has come a long way from the first pics ..good looking dog ,hope he works for you

Billy had his first confirmed find and bay.  He was on his way to a bay along another dog's track.  He broke off and went bay this sow.  He kept her bayed about 15 minutes before any other dogs went help him. 


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That's awesome, little guy worked out for ya. He's come a long way from the first pics you put up of him. Glad that he turned out for ya.

WOW! I just read through this whole post... That is an amazing story! I don’t even know you and I’m proud of you! That just shows what a lot of hard work and determination will do… and it paid off! He turned into a good looking dog, and he’ll find you hogs! I’d say that’s a win win! Good stuff, and thanks for sharing!  ;D

Well hog bit, that's about the coolest thing I've read on here in awhile. I read the whole thread again just now, I had all but forgotten about that dog. This is one of those stories that you hear from your brother in law that heard it at work......you never think that it really happens, but you're the living proof that it does,....take pride in what you did for that dog,....he was a goner for sure I thought when you got him. Good job bud,....enjoy hunting with him now,.....you certainly earned it. ;)

X's 100,000,000......you gave that dog a second chance and i bet he will never forget it. Good job and pat urself on the back, you done good!


Finally the hog doggin can resume!

So Glad to hear a little good news! Congrats on Billy, know you earned it !

Great story! Good job man. He sure looks good.