EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

UUUGGGG Ok, so Grace and Gemma must have made a list on what to chew,

1. Coffee Table
2. Back Door
3. Feeder and waterer
4. Bed frame
5. every piece of toilet paper or paper towel in the surrounding counties, PLUS this one.

AND get this, to make it even better, they have dug under the yard fence and DESTROYED the hot wire (Maurice will fix it when he gets home) so now they can roam freely, and they insist on going to the neighbors' houses and bringing home various things they find interesting.... Underwear, house shoes, two purses, socks socks socks, and loads of just trash.

Just thought Y'all might get a laugh out of this cuz I'm fixin to pull my hair out and shoot two BMC Gyps.

Time to chain them up

if the purses had money in them, id let them keep roaming!!  ;D

Circle C, chain is a 5 letter dirty word around my house... Have had one too many hang up on whatever was around and strangle themselves...

That's not the chains fault.... ;)

Ha ha ha good point, but, neither of these two are hunters... they are my house dogs...  so I hate to just throw em on a chain... Maurice just needs to get is a** home so he can fix the electric fence.

Its time for an E-Collar!!

DONT shoot them ill take them ,the free ones are the best !!!!

I know how you feel I showed up last week to the house and walked in and seen a dairy queen cup and a soup can laying in the living room floor. Kept going down the hall and seen a diaper tore up in one of my boys room. About that time I heard something coming down the hall and it was my ridgeback yard dog. When I seen him he hauled butt back outside. Somehow the front door had come open. I went back to the kitchen and behind the bar was the rest of the trash. >:(

Gritty, Here is my problem, LMAO, Grace, my year old pup, lives in an e collar. Gemma, my pup hasn't gotten one yet, because I can't figure out how to connect a second collar to my controller.

DoubleR, my fiance would kill me if I got rid of them. He only sees their good sides, I of course, deal with the rest...

ETHH, We have all been there... My two's favorite thing to do is go through the bathroom trash during that time of the month.... the rest of the time, they are quite happy to just rifle through the Kitchen trash and deposit the good stuff on my bed.


UUUGGG puppies, why do we put up with them??

Then have a garage sale and sell your neighbors their stuff back. ;D Be glad your fiance only sees good and hope it stays that way. My sister is a tree hugger and got a BMC stray. She knows all about what you are going through. She finally realized he had to hunt. Seems your dogs found their own things to hunt. Maybe you should dhow them a hog and they won't want another sock. ;D Or you could just have regular garage sales.

Dub, If I had the means to put them on hogs I would do it in a heartbeat... I just don't have the resources right now.

To keep them in your yard area look into a in ground fence. It seems to work pretty well. I aint had one but a friend of mine did and his dogs learned really quick where there limit was.

BRW, have you seen how much those things cost??? I will stick to the above ground electric fence I already have, and just put fixing it on Maurice's  Honey-Do list. Grace has gotten into it once or twice and dam sure respects it.

Crate training will fix them

look on ebay for the underground fence chargers, they are alot cheaper on there and well worth the money..my brother in law had one for his dogs and they dang sure respected it for over 13yrs...

Uglydog, can You explain further what you mean by crate training will fix them? Both of them are crate trained and will stay in their crates however long with no complaints, I just think it's mean to put such high energy dogs locked in crates for 6-7 hrs at a time when I'm not home. I would be willing to try whatever you suggest.

The crate is the babysitter when you can't supervise. Mine don't destroy things when I am gone if they are in their crates. Yes they may have to stay crated for up to 8 hours on occasion, and yes it inconvenient to have to set limitations of when I am gone to return in a timely manner to let dogs out. However it keeps some of the stress down and my property in tact. More importantly it keeps the dogs safe from getting into harms way.

I love them enough to prevent them from chewing up something that could comapct in their intestines or poison them one day because I did not "think" they could get to something, Or did not think that they would chew on "that".
I surely don't want my dogs harrasing my neighbors or string out their trash, I sure would not be a very good neighbor to let my dogs cause havoc on other people and I sure would not put up with the neighbors dogs doing that to me or my property.

I can understand your position about chaining dogs, I have lost my fair share to mistakes that were my fault, not the dogs, I did not "baby proof" because I did not forsee see things being and issue, I have since learned from all the mistakes I have made and have safer systems for keeping my dogs. It was a painful process, but it can be done.
Like it or not that is part of the responsibilities of owning animals, to keep them safe, and take care of them. Just because a dog wants to do something that does not mean they should do it, when it feels like it. We keep them as companions in unnatural enviroments such as our homes, then we as humans have  a responsibilty to the animal, to ourselves and to our neighbors to balance it all.

 

So I'm not cruel for leaving them in a crate for a long period of time?

nah, idont think they feel time quite the same way we do, they will be that much more overjoyed to see you when you come home

Lock your wife in one crate and your dog in another and see who is happy to see you in 10 hours!!!

Nope its not cruel at all. Think of it more like them having their own private place to get away from the rest of the world. Give them a chew toy, make sure they had oppertunities to to clean out and do their business, and give them a safe secure place to hang out for awhile.
Never use it as a place to punish or "time-out" it should be a "good" place tp go. I leave my crates open while I am at home and my dogs use it as a place to get out of the way, they will put themselves up and take naps through out the day. I just make sure its all positive when training them to go in with a command "get in your box" the same command they get when we load up to go hunting,"get in your box" I can say it any time, anywhere in the house and they run to get in. In the beginingg they always got a treat, now only occasionally do they get a treat as a positive reinforcement to a good behavior.

I agree Uglydog, crates are life savers ,,, dogs got no business with the run of the house like theynown it. They are either at someone's side or in a crate. Cuts way down on bad behavior and ruined furniture and personal items

Put a camera on your dog and see what they do all day. They just find a cool spot and lay down. Put the crate inside and they will be happy. I am sure you do but just make sure you use the largest crate you can. Outside 90-100 degrees or inside a crate with a/c?

 >:D Ha ha ha ha Maurice fixed the hot wire today... It took Gemma all of 10 mins to find it... I bet the little wanch stays in the yard...

I agree with Krystal. I have three bulldogs that all stay in crates while i am gone. They are role models when I am home and the wreckin crew when left alone for long periods. Tiny dont feel bad about the crate I used to until I begain to notice that 75% of the time they where out of it all they did way lay around n sleep or chew on a toy. Just put them in a crate they have a little room in and give them a toy that you feel safe with them having to chew on and keep them busy for a while. I give mine cow femers or Big ham bones.

The Wreckin Crew in time out
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