EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I am looking at getting a pair of catahoula pups but not sure what bloodline to get.  Do any of you know anything about the blue sky catahoulas in elkhart tx any info would be appreciated. Thanks

I had a dog that was bred by Blue Sky. He was a good looking dog. Can't say anything else good about him though... I don't know if he is a representative of what Blue Sky produces, if he was a product of his upbringing, or if he was just a cull.  I bought him as a 3-4 year old dog, I hunted him for a solid year, saw virtually no improvement, then sold him back to the guy I bought him from. He was dog aggressive and would not hunt out past about 30 yards....but did I mention he was good looking ;D I have a much different opinion of how to handle that type of dog today, than I did back then. Today, that dog would have been put down, or at the very least neutered so that he could not pass on those traits.

I had one from them and he was kind of skidish so I sold him to a buddy of mine when he was a pup and he seemed to come out of it. He said he was the best dog he ever owned. He didnt hunt but he sure did bay a cow. I know a granddaughter out of him and she is a jam up lil pup. They have some good dogs from what I hear. Check out their website

I've had several that came through my yard over the years... never had any luck with any of them.

I hunted with 2, they were scared of a hog but they had '' double glass eyes ''....

thanks guys thats what I needed to know it don't matter to me what color or what their eyes look like if they are not any count in the woods do yall know of any good bloodlines out there I could try.

PARKER CURS THEY ARE SOME GOOD DOGS

Hey Stephen, if you are wanting pure bred catahoula's, I would give Amos Mann a call at 2 Diamond Catahoula's in Wills Point TX. He has a litter of pups on the way that should be good woods prospects. Another person to consider is Reg Skain's in Monroe LA with Backwood's Catahoula's. He has a 150 acre wooded pen where he trains dogs and I've heard good things about his his line. Shoot me a pm with your # if you want some more input, but these two are a good start. Should be able to google either kennel and look at there dogs and get contact info. If you contact Amos, ask him about his litter out of Shiney and his Rascal son, tell him Britt Garcia told you about them. Hope this helps you get started.        Britt

i have 2 that i got from dexter and really  pleased with them ..some of his bloodlines go back to Lee's out of la.

I just got a beautiful one from Mr.Mason and this lil sucker is gonna be hell!Lil butter ball and not scared of anything.Also this is my first Cat ever.

thanks guys

I have a nice looking dog out of Blue Sky and basically he is nothing but a gritty help dog.He is 3 yrs old and stops to pee on something every 40 ft and is always worried about where I am so he wont venture out over 200 yards.The dog has an awesome nose but will not use it to find hogs but I bet he could track me down a mile away.I have tried to lose him before and he will find me everytime.I am about to be hunting in Paris soon so if he doesnt click pretty soon he will have to go.The only reason I have hung onto this piece of crap was that the last 4 year old dog that I gave away ended up turning into one of the best dogs I have ever hunted.I also have to agree with CircleC on what needs to be done with a dog like that and will happen if this dog doesnt change by the summer.

I used to feed there dogs for them when they were between Fairfield and Streetman Tx. I also helped them move to Elkheart. I got a black and tan cat gyp from them when I was 16 and she was a jam up little dog she was finding hogs when she was nine months old, but she was the only dog I had at the time. Needless to say while I was at work one day she came up MISSING. I know another guy that got two pups from a different litter and they both turned into good dogs. one was grittier than the other but, both would find and bay there own hog.

I've got a gyp pup from them this fall and she has started like a dream, I am very pleased with her.  I also know of a couple of other dogs off their yard that are doing well.  I think a lot of it depends on what you actually want in a dog and getting one off of parents that are closest to what you want...jmo

I have hunted with probably 50 of these dogs and out of all those dogs I saw 2 that were decent and one that was a sure enough hog dog.I think the odds of hunting with that many pieces of crap that all came from the same kennel is unbelievable,I think you could go to the pound and get a bunch of young mutts and you would have had better odds.There are too many other really good Cat kennels out there to gamble your money on.Lets face it you are gambling with any kennel but I think your odds of turning out a good dog from that kennel are very,very slim.If I had to choose a Cat kennel to buy from Mr.Mason's yard has turned out too many good dogs to mention.

my ol buddys strike dog is a blue sky cat  good good dog   we just got a lite grey spotted catahoula that we started but hes very gritty  my half cat half lab is a dang good dog too   if this helps any  hope so

That is the only thing I will give my blue dog is that he is a real good looking dog and he hates hogs so bad he is almost suicidal.He is all catch once other dogs do all the work of finding a hog.

Best catahoulas come from White Rock Farms in Oklahoma.   

Looked at their website...didn't see anything discussing what venue the dogs were worked or pictures of the dogs working. What exactly makes them the best? Not trying to be an azz, just wondering...

dont know any thing a bout thim but you might try running m catahoulas mans name is bobby mcbride last time i  heard  he was in bronson tx had a jam up catahoulas all of thim i hunted with wear top notch

sorry to steal your post stephen but does anyone kno how to get ahold of this man? i am not to far from him and have been wanting a full blood cat but can find what im wanting. any help would be appreciated

 the sorriest dogs i have ever owned were mostly the best lookin ones. i cant help you with a breeder, i have only owned 2 registered dogs in my life and didnt like either one of them. but to be fair, i have had lots of unregistered ones i didnt like either ;D

There are breeders out there consistantly producing good dogs, but you will have to do your research and look for them. Alot of people will say, "its a good dog" then you have to ask "well what is it good at"
some will say "it will bay a hog " then its up to you to ask them "ehere does it bay hogs at" cause some breeders think if itbays in a pen or feild trial they will call it "a hog dog" well I am here to tell you thats better than nothing but that don't make it a hog dogs, feild trials and baying are great butif you want woods dogs go to someone that breeds woods dogs, and if the BREEDER is worth anything you can ask alot of specific questions and references on dogs backgrounds.  If they don't want to talk about the dogs then they must not have much to tell you about them. However thats not usually the case, most want to talk their dogs up, alot.
I know a few breeders that breed registerd dogs that make good woods dogs consistantly, that may not hunt alot themselves but they keep track on te dogs they produce and know what the offspring are doing so that they know what works and what does not work, because they care enough to only breed dogs that do work.

So if you are looking for a paperd dog that works you can find one, but makes sure its got several generations close that are PROVEN to work themselves, I would not ever buy from someone that has a Female that they never work and only keep to breed for her bloodlines on paper, thats a big red flag to me.

Not to put one breeder down over another but just because one guy got a bad dog from some one does not mean all there dogs are bad, in the same token just because one person got a good dog does not mean you will. Not all dogs in a litter will make lead dogs, and i would not beleave any one who says all of there dogs make dogs out of every litter. With that being said i have gone through a lot of catahoulas i the last 14 years and i can say in my opinon Wager catahoulas are some dang good dogs you can ask jonnie any thing you want about his dogs and he knows where they are and what they are doing. His number if you would like to ask him some questions 337-322-1351 His name is Jonnie Wager

BullMaster is right. Go with the kennel that produces high percentage of good hog dogs. Just take into consideration that just because a dog ranges out and hunts does not mean he has a good nose and is really good at finding hogs.

I`ve had good luck with Camp-A-While Catahoulas.

Anytime you get a pup from any kennel it is a gamble. I have had the honor of owning some really good dogs over the years. The pups I have kept out of these dogs some worked out some didnt. Mike's dog Blue came from my dogs and he was a hell of a dog. There was 7 pups from that litter 4 of them made good dogs the other 3 were not worth shooting. Both parents of this litter were great dogs. I have had about a 60 percent success rate on dogs actually making good hog dogs in 20 years of breeding. The Blue Sky folks are good people I have known them for several years and I am sure their success rate is around the same as mine. Your chances of a pup turning out increase if you buy from someone who actually hunts their dogs like Mr. Mason. There are many Catahoula kennels out there that produce very good dogs you just have to research them and ask lots of questions. Stay away from straight bay pen dogs. I had a Chihuaha that bayed in a pen before,, but I wouldnt take it to the woods. If you know what I mean.