EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Dont forget yall theres another episode coming on tonight. dont forget to watch. Oght tobe a good one, I heard Josh proclaims himself tobe the best hogdogger in the United States. Happy huntin, LONG LIVE HOGDOGGIN>:D ;D

What time and what channel on direct tv

at 9:00 and ?

it's on discovery...whatever channel that may be on directtv channel 182 on dish network

I use AT&T universe now (which I hate) but I believe it's channel 187 on Direct tv.

oops, meant to say it's on DIRECT TV it's on DSC (ch 278), 9:00 Oklahoma time.

and "the wild within" is on TRAV (ch 277) at 8:00 OK time. preveiws show hin in the water with a bayed/caught hog in hawaii

direct tv channel 278 @ 9:00 c

The wild within is pretty decent.  Ole boy thought he was gonna play catch dog though haha

That Hawaiian is funny telling the noob to go catch that pig when both catchdogs were on the listed boar. :laugh:

Also running up the river while carrying a knife not to smart.

So far this episode is leaving the same sour taste as the last episode these Florida boys are worthless. So are their dogs. Just saying.

COULD NOT OF SAID IT BETTER.  Matt are these the guys you ran into while hunting this weekend???

I dont think that they ever ran dogs before they started filmin for this show lol, give them a thumbs up for tryin though haha

Apparently I have been doing this whole dog thing all wrong.  My dumb self thought all this time that the dogs were supposed to find the hog for me.

Atleast they have better vests. How bout that catch dog though, he finally got an ear after they had it flipped.

Riddick doesn't have the nose they think he has. Heck, why did they not go to the last place they saw the hog, and send him in. Good gosh are they glued to the mule or something. Heck, if the dog needs help, give it to him.

It is a disappointment that these guys and their terrible dogs are representing the hog hunters everywhere!!!!  Their dogs couldn't find a hog unless it had a light on it and one couldn't even do it with the light shined right on it!!!! Haha too funny!!!

To the Florida newbies, thank you for "helping people". Man o man   :o

Terrible!!!!

I want to see just 1 Florida boy in the trap with 4 hogs. That would make for great TV.  >:D

I started watching late so I am a little behind real time/ The boar in HI has been fighting we are told because he has a fresh cut on his snout.

Pretty sure that came from hitting the fence trying to get out , there Mr PhD!

ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE.  All I see is a bunch of prospective culls!!   >:D

I see this post going south real quick as I am watching this show now!!Way to much Drama!

Wow.. this show is a joke....3 more angry beast!! they are pigs!! lol  At least he can tie!!  Watch out for the little one...she's dangerouse!! Now they need a break!  wow!!

If Riddick was my main dog .......I would invest in some BLUETICKS!! ;D

Thats funny crap right there!!

Dang if I load a dog, much less one that weighs 130#'s. My puppy loads by herself. This is crazy. Raise your standards people.  ;)

the only thing hog doggers got going for us is how they keep talking about how furochious these hogs are, like there just rabid beast, and i know what i would do with that riddick dog if he was mine.

I think this show could mark the beginning of the end, for hog dogging.

Absolutely horrible in my opinion.

Oh god poor riddick's cut!!!haha he's a good en!!

Riddick got cut on BARBWIRE!!!!  Has the lady ever stuck a hog before????  Did not look like it.

I'm watching how Riddick is breathing, and I find it very hard to believe that he will hold a hog for 45 minutes. No way. He is breathing way to hard for that. I smell smoke.  ;)

I learned something tonight. The " trappers " are sending a " strong message " to the hahgs to get out now!!

Just wondering what happens if they dont?

I am calling L3 tomorrow to ask for a refund for the hour I just wasted. What a load of fluff.  rolleyes

Did Riddick get cut on barbed wire or the crazy lookin woman with the knife!! lol was that her 1st time!! lol this show is aweful!! I hate the reputation that they are giving hog doggers!! If they are pro's ....what are we?  and we DONT exclaim to be the best but hey, if thats what we have to live upto.. oh my!!! they would die if they hunted behind some of us!! lol

I tell ya'll what that spot light is a hog finding machine!

Why would this be the begining of the end end of hog doggin ? I dont think that they are doin anything to give doggers a bad name, but please tell me if Im wrong?!?!

I think hog doggers all sittin around fightin eachother and bashin eachother is closer to being the begining of the end of hog doggin. I personally could give a $hi+ if every hog dogger they put on tv got out there in a dress. As long as they are "public" friendly then they are doing a good job.

 Worst i ever seen my baby girls forgot about more then they will know

too funny!! why didnt you mention Riddick?  roflmao

that show made some people look like real idiots . the true colors wil always show !

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yea as long as there batterys on their lights dont go dead they can catch one hog and go home, as long as theres no fences around, i hunt with a 60 year old man who is ruff and by the way that women acted about that cut id be scared she would call peta on us

All that I'm hoping is that this is the Discovery Channel's way of "easing" the public into hog hunting.... maybe they're scared to show truly efficient hog doggers just yet.... Too much death in one show might freak "Joe public" out...  ;) ;D

Josh, the Dane is a joke.   Good thing he's flashy lookin', that's the only thing he's got goin' for him.  You can do better than that brother...

Just can'y my friend! It ain't in me!

EFFICIENT hunting?  I don't think "chasing" one hog then having to wait until the next night is very efficient :laugh: Well the only good thing this show has done in my opinion is scare the heck out of anyone that is not a dog hunter.  Rabid beasts carrying "anthrax, yes anthrax"..... I digress it also shows that hog dogs don't cross barbwire fences. rolleyes  

Tcolt,

With all the talk I've heard him tell, I expect a lot more. Some people obviously have lower standards. I'll leave it there for now.

Anthrax the hogs are on a Terrorist attack!!

Tcolt,

The first hog in Florida with the dogs caught and the squealing hog as the highlight, then the dane and his belly cut being the next highlight... I honestly don't think the general public is ready for that.  More an issue with the editors than the actors.

The thing that seems to be missed is, each show shows ten min of probably over 100 hours of film. They sit there and mix and match everything to try and tell whatever story they want. Those two hunts that they showed probably consisted of film cut from 5+ hunts. Some of that may have not even been on the same ranch, that is just the way this type of "video industry" works.

My point is, we are watching edited film of hunts that I can garentee you were probably much different so were not really getting the story even though (hollywood come kill me now) it is spose to be reality TV.

Who really gives a dang how they act or what there dogs do, although one dog handlin a 300+ boar without much trouble seemed pretty good to me (even though he didnt use bay dogs OMG  :o ) , as long as long as they dont make us look bad to the publics eye.

Anthrax huh, maybe home land security will start hiring a few of us  8)

Tcolt, all editing aside, that Dane is not living up to the hype. Period. And he is definatley not using his nose.

I know Discovery is showing what they want, but some things can not be covered up.

The cut was a barbed wire cut so I dont really think thats going to freak anyone out. And the pigs that were trapped and got a back leg grabbed were squealin too, is the general public not ready for that?

The dane is a joke... he obviously has gotten used to them finding the hogs with the light and him just running em down and catching em, he doesn't use his nose from what i've seen, i most certianly would be feeding him the 50 lbs of dog food he probably eats a week... JMO

The show is a joke, they need to come to east texas and see how some old timers do it

Watching that show made me dumber

I feel bad for bashing the Hog whisperer last week. He put more pork on the ground than both groups of doggers combined and he tied them all!

Riddick is a heck of a catch dog in my book.

Tcolt,
You have a Dane puppy don't you?   :laugh:

Josh treated my buddy very fairly on a breast plate. Because of that I wanted to buy into his beliefs, but after watching the past 2 episodes, I just flat don't think he knows half what he thinks he does.  If for some miraculous reason I was able to shine a hog, at the very minimum my dogs better run it. If he did not have the nose, brain, and desire to work it out on his own ( and they insist on hunting him), they should have walked over to where the hog was, snapped their fingers, and sent him in. Simply crazy to come back later.

I dont know if yall were watchin the same show as me but I dont ever remember seein that big sob in the spotlight.... and if he is sooooo used to watchin the spotlight why didnt he catch the first hog, looked like to me the light did more in confusing him than it did in helpin him atempt to catch that first hog...

Tcolt,
  
   How many people only watched the highlight during commercial break, then found out a dog was cut and refused to watch the rest of the show,  so they never found out it was a barbed wire cut.... I bet more than we want to think about. Heck, the reel they showed, Krystal, sure seemed freaked out by the little cut... I know my mom would not have stayed tuned.to see the cut footage, therefore she would not have heard the explanation.

Now I am not picking on your friends.... I am saying I think the issue is with the editing...

This show being on discovery as opposed to a hunting channel puts it in the spotlight for a lot more live. And AR type....

As for the trapper and the squealing hog.... I didn't say anything about trapping, I am talking about hog dogging here.

And that is probably why it is better to have josh on the show than most of us haha... if you remember correctly they arent spose to cross that fence, that is someone elses property. What he was doin not callin the dog back right away, I dont know, but like I said before, that was all film from several hunts that they put together to make their story so it may have not gone exactly like that.

No I dont have a dane puppy lol, but if they will hold a big a$$ hog like that Ill sure a heck take one  ;D !

Tcolt,
To answer yor question as to why he did not catch the spotlighted pig, "because he appears to be slow and clumsy".  Running fast in the wide open, and being quick are two completely different things.

I think the Dane did good on the big hog. He held a good boar alone, most bulldogs would of had a hard time doing that.

Im not here to argue with you or listen to you take up for him, i simply stated my opinion... I WOULDNT FEED THE DOG!!!!

thats strictly my opinion, seems like you like him, so be it.. shining a hog with a spotlight and turning a catch dog loose on him is not my cup of tea. I see very little training or work done

I wish every dogger would breed thier dogs to SUPER RIDDICK that way I know thier will always be plenty of hogs to hunt.I know alot of this is for TV but do any of you know if this Josh dude is for real with this BS?Is this the way he really hunts?As bad as it was I thought the guys from Florida were the more impressive of the 2 so called hogdoggers,at least thier dogs could trail one.There are 5 10 year old boys from Buna TX that could really show these people how its done,these kids live in the woods and will stay out there 2-3 days at a time until thier mothers make thier dad go get them.These kids are so well respected even with veteran hogdoggers that everyone that knows them will let them borrow thier best dogs because the kids know thier stuff.That show is like driving up on a bad car wreck,you dont want to look but you just have too.Riddick!!!!!Come on now,they should be embarrassed.Hell Im embarrassed for them.

Not my cup of tea relying on one catch dog. But I agree the dog did hold a large hog, on his own, where many would have trouble.

Why do they bring the red dog if they only ever use Riddick?

Im just not sure how you came to that conclusion that the dog doesnt use his nose... did he find that last boar with xray and night vision? If so I deffinetly need one of those danes if they come with all that lol.

Chris not my cup as well. I don't see spot lighting hogs has effective. If you gonna do it then shoot the hogs. You could kill a few and wound a few more.

Hell they probably caught him with bulldogs  then pulled the bulls off and let Riddick take over,its the Hollywood way!!!I dont believe for one second that dog could hold that pig.Most doggers I know wouldnt have lasted 10 minutes with that film crew.

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i think L3 would be more effective if they used a spotlight and a AR15 or a night vision scope. revised: cantex beat me to it....

Guys, I ain't got a dog in this fight, so don't go jumpin on me, however,

Uglydog made it very clear on the other thread about this show not to run your mouths too bad, please head her warning and just let it be a "caught hog"...

Please?

Tcolt, I'll put this into simple terms for you. You are jaded by that dane's color pattern.  ;)

It's not ticking though. If I could buy him for a 1/2 sack of wet mildewed dogfeed, I'd keep the feed.  ;D

Who cares who are what kind of dog they are using, I know Josh he's a nice guy and he does hunt one out but that is his way. I dont hunt that way either guys but dang atleast he's trying to make it look decent. hell all the other guys look like a bunch of clowns with some sho nuff pot lickers it takes them 10 min. to even strike a hog in a gated neighborhood when the hogs are right there WTF i even seen one time his garmin said 35 yrds and the dog was squalking like a wild indian  .......??????..........are you serious i personaly think this is not good for our sport and then the tv people are going to butcher it to death and make it look as cruel and messed up as they can JMO

Cowgirl I see you are being cool but those people put the targets on thier own backs and gave us plenty of ammo to fire.

If you want to see how johnny public feels about this show, check out discovery's blog spot. There are some mad folks on there, and these folks want the hogs shot so they aren't necessarily ar folks. There are some which like the program, some that don't, and still more that criticise "the so-called professional" in Texas for his lack of skills. I don't think this type of programming is good for my sport at all. I don't want to see three dogs on a hog's head on national tv. I don't want to see highlighting a cut dog on national tv. I don't want someone panicking over a cut dog instead of quietly proving that  you can handle it. Yes, it can and does happen, but I don't want it in everyone's living room  sensationalized through editing. The public does not need to be shielded from it, but how many more anti hunters (or pro hunter, anti dog hunters) were made by the airing of this program? I think a responsible hog dogger would not subject the sport to this type of editing no matter how much you want to be on tv.
Cheers
M

They got ole Cutter fired up,I understand you bro.Good point Aladatrot.

Well said Mandy

Look,  to land owners with little dogging experience , letting folks hunt with dogs is a bit scary as they consider the liabilities and risks involved as well as the possibility of opening their land to unscrupulous poaching and folks who leave gates open or whose dogs catch livestock. So when a landowner is considering whether to use dogs, gun and bow hunters or traps and they view this show,  here is what they will indefinitely come away with. Guys who trap are courteous, quiet and effective.  Whereas doghunters will drive to your property in multiple trucks. Unload multiple ATV's and proceed to go joy riding around your land spotlighting pigs only to ultimately realese a dog and quit after catching a decent hog in an attempt to quit while their ahead. With all the emphasis on how deadly the pigs are to the dogs its only safe to assume that all hog doggers want is to catch a trophy and Leave.

I posted last week thatwe should take it easy on him and I should've added take it easy on his wife, and I still wont participate in personality bashing,  BUT, the show itself made hunting with dogs look chaotic and HIGHLY INEFFECTIVE!!!!! .

Lol, looks like a big version of alot of the cat dogs I hunt behind, just hits alot harder.

Thats a little harsh lol, but to each his own, if Josh is enjoying the way he hunts then good for him. To each his own, havin fun is what this is about.


Bullmaster, I think they did catch him with bulldogs first, there was three stuck way up in the tree branches by their vests, looked like that pig had tossed them up there  ;D ... looked like pits to me, they should have used dogos first  >:D

I knew I saw something in the trees :laugh:

Bullmaster, Ain't trying to be "cool" as you so kindly put it, just tryin to remind everyone to play nice so we don't lose anymore good people than we already have to this mess.

Okay I should have said I understand you are trying to be nice,excuse me for my bad choice of words.

 I have a feeling that the Discovery Channel would have made the best Hog Doggers with the best dogs around look ridiculous to the knowing with their editing and narration.
L3 is not bashing my way of hunting and the dogs I use on this show so I am going to extend him the same.
His choice of dogs and his style of hunting don't suit me but he doesn't feed my dogs and I don't feed his.

That being said, overall, I just don't like the show so far for a lot of reasons.      

Who have we lost?

You asked before I could! ??? ???

I can honestly say i wanna trow up now....

Circle C and Ninja, I can't remember who it was, but I remember readin a post a few days ago (I've slept since then) about one of the members who was banned... I can't find the post now, but someone had posted pleading his case and one of the admin (don't remember which one) pretty much said not no but H*ll no

That member was banned for an unrelated offense.

Cheers
M

AH, Ok, excuse my ignorance!!! So sorry, I'll crawl back in my hole now

I was dissapointed in that there were not five truck loads of hounds dumped into the race in Florida.  I thought that was how it was done over there ;)

It's no problem. You wouldn't have known anyway, as the issues were pretty much in private. The public portion of it was forgivable with a slap on the wrist. The private issues were what got him banned.

Cheers
M

I read all of the blogs about the show! ???  Seems like showing the public a hogdogging show isn't setting well with the majority! I hope this doesnt stir up a bunch of poop about hogdogging! :(

Oh boy here we go now!!!!!!I think I will go to bed now cuz this is going to get nasty.Opps, sorry I didnt see the wink at the end of the reply.

It won't get nasty, its just a little good natured ribbing...
Cheers
M

It's too late for that Dinah!  :'(

I did not watch the show but my little brother and son did justin is ten jace is three thay have hunted with me a lott thay asked me if thay took some of my pups and a camcored out in the back yard and leged a few pigs thay could do just as good as the people on this show . Thay must have just started doggen hogs win a ten year old knows he can out do thim and his partner is a three year old and with pups thats not good in my book but like i said i did not watch the show sound like i dont cause i am allergic to stuped people it makes my head hurt

Yeah, I guess theres no puttin the cat back in the bag.  :( But hey, there's always skunk eradication!  ;D Guess i will be keeping my dogs.  :D

I own God's gift to skunkdogdom.

Cheers
M

Im up to that challenge.  :D You may have to load up and come to Dayton so we can have a skunk-off! LOL I guess that Chris and James can be the judges. We can give points for size, strength of odor, and quantity.  :laugh:

Lol. You may even get your own show too! I would love to hear how Discovery would narrate that one!

On a serious note.  This show is just that  a tv show.  The purpose of the show is only known by the producer.  I have to agree with Chris.  Dogs should not be shown caught on a hog.  Sticking a hog should not be shown on TV.  Flaling a knife around while approaching or retreating from a hog should not be shown on tv.  This will probably not be good for our sport.  The actors on the tv show are just that actors.  Are they passionate about their dogs?  I hope so.  The fact of the matter remains SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT to see animals killed by a knife on tv or dogs latched onto a hog on tv.  I feel that there should be hog hunting on tv but more of dogs baying then once the catchdog is released cut and go to the finished product a hog tied or a dead hog.  I don't think we as hog hunters should hide what we do but do think that it should be done in a sensable manner.  The team from Texas has not said anything that would discredit any other methods of hog hunting and for that I am greatful.  Yes, the big spotted dog held a big hog by itself without another dog.  However, even if it was staged the absolute panic over a cut on tv looked bad period.  

Alan,
Im sure it would sound like this: SKUNKS GONE CRAZY! These skunkdoggers are eradicating skunks for your protection. They are ruthless little beasts out to terrorize you and your families!!! LOL  :laugh: Spraying unsuspecting citizens, scaring little children and hissing at our elderly! THEY MUST BE STOPPED!


...After re-reading that.....i may apply for a job with the Discovery channel as a narrator.  8)

LMAO! Don't forget keeping people hostage in their own homes!!!

Actually, a skunk would have a better chance of that with me even over the biggest baddest boar! Lol

They are huge, rabid, foul smelling beasts with fiery tempers and huge teeth waiting to (s)prey unsuspecting people. Infants and elderly people are in extreme danger.

Cheers
M

 :laugh: Mandi, I think that you and I may have a future in reality tv narration!  :o

Not me, dinah. I don't want to put skunk doggin' in a bad light. Gotta be responsible, remember?

Cheers
M

That is soooo true. If they ban skunkdogging......what the heck are we going to do on weekends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know what we would do. Cward has taken to rodent dogging. Let's keep that option open.

Cheers
M

i just read the blog and it seems as the show goes on there are more and more negative comments made. The "left" just needs to change the freaken channel if they dont like it. I hate a bunch of do gooders telling anyone what they should or should not do. I just cant unerstand the thought process behind thinking you can impose your will on others.  popo going to get off my soap box now!

Peachcreek, you can bet the production company had to realize that this would inflame people. I mean, how could it not?

It's not that the left should change the channel, its that the public doesn't want to know the details of the removal. Like doggie said, this could have been kept cleaner. That's where all those attorneys I was talking about last week come in. Thinking things through responsibly and not just trying to get on tv means paying for entertainment attorneys to retain final edit rights. We should have learned this lesson before, but tv cameras are not out to be your friend and portray your sport in a positive light no matter what they say. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that sensationalism sells, and chances are it will not be kind.
My own opinion for what its worth is just make it stop, get it off the air. I bet the actors involved are also feeling the sting of the public eye. They can't be happy that they are being portrayed like this. I'm watching it right now, and I'm just shaking my head and really mad.
Cheers
M

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Is this show a series or just a one show thing?

L3 Outdoors, The 3 fellas in Florida, and the Biologist have my respect for getting in front of the camera and leaving themselves open for criticisim and at the mercy of the editing department.  Also, either way you look at it, they are shedding light on a problem that needs serious attention to the public, but it isnt the way I would do it.

If it is a series I hope that things will get better for them.

Joey

For those hogs that like to come up in the yard like in florida ya know? gah LOL had to throw that in.

My catch dog sleeps at me feet every night so I can't say much on that end lol. She's for when the hogs start to come in the house.

i found myself shaking my head more than anything while watching this show............reading the comments people left on the discovery channel website made me realize that this show is not showing the public why people use dogs idk why some of yall do but i have to around here because the hogs stay in the woods and know what a truck and spotlight is

Thats what reality tv is all about,  to see who can stir up the most   # 2,  no matter who gets hurt, or what the out come, cause at the end of the day. The one that started it all are just sitting back and watrching it all unfold. 

What would really make this situation worse, is when they come back thru and ask again,  who wants to be on hog wild, then jim bob,  says i will, cause i know how to do it better,  then they put #1  outfit on the same show as #2 outfit  then  they get into fight over which way is better blah, blah. blah,

It wouldnt suprise me narry bit that this is their very intent.  It wouldnt have took much to dig up the L3 controversy that was already going on, then throw a little gas on the fire.

I didnt see the show tonight, and only parts of the first one, but I did think that they were showing way too much on the big screen, with the whole, little lady with BIG knife stabbing a wild boar, that almost ate her husband alive!  lol  But Thats what sells these days.   
Its all about the$$$

I just read the other threads and realized that this is a series and I remember telling this guy(Josh) that hunting "ONE OUT"  Ultimately will lead to disaster, that is if you have a dog that will use its nose and follow a hog, then catch it.  Lets pray that it doesnt go that way and make it to TV because then we would look PRETTY BAD!

I will say this much, If I turned out in that Neighborhood even the camera men would be dialing 911 because of all the Squealin and Killing going on!!! ;D

Hold the light on'em. Shake the light right there so he will know where the hog went through the fence at. Holy cow is this crap for real! To start with I'm not going to look for the pigs before I turn loose on them, but if I did and they got behind that hog and stopped when he went through the barbwire he would be eating supper some where else that night. But wait Josh said he didn't go that way because the dog knew they could not hunt over there. 2nd and last show Got my belly full of it.

I think Riddick must be short for Riddickulous.

That's how I feel about this whole "television series".

If your going to go on national television proclaiming to be "professionals", you should at least act like you've done it before.  The wife's reaction to her baby's "injury" just about did me in.

Not sure if we can endure another 8 more episodes of this show.

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thats funny right there!
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and after all the drama, i actually laughed out loud when they said, oh, wait.... i think it's just a barbwire scratch....

OK. i like to shine a positive "light" on everything said and done about my favorite hobby so hear goes.  I think Riddick did a good job holding a good size pig for a good amount of time.  that's my positive light.  As for the show i put a negative light on the footage used by DC.  I was worried about this from day one and i am sure there was plenty of good things to show other then what was shown for all three companies.  I like Josh and the other guys seem like good hearted people, but i would say that last night show was not good for anybody.  Riddick is better then the show made him out to be, but whats done is done.  Here is my lesson for the day.  I try not to say anything good about my dogs.  We catch a lot of pigs.  Caught 5 this weekend in 2 hours of hunting, but if there is one thing i have learned, your dogs can always make a liar out of you no matter how good they are, and from what i can tell T.V. can make things look not so good as well.  I hope for all of the companies envolved that it gets better.  And for all of you that only have negative things to say i hope your dogs never disappoint you when you really don't want them too.  Its a game and we don't always win or there woudn't be pigs around.  I can say that my dogs would have never stopped at that fence but that's probably why i can't hunt there.  

HAHAHA Alan that is prolly one of the funniest episodes of Family Guy ever.....

ROFLMAO

I haven't watched it !!!  NO VIEWER'S NO SHOW!!.. I'd bet more doggers watched it than treehuggers.. People keep Watching they'll keep filming..

You are right. If I have learned one thing over the years its to never, NEVER brag on your dogs or your horses. LOL My dogs have made me look like a jackass a few times. But as for Mr. tv producer...if they filmed hours and hours of footage of me and my dogs hunting and then aired the footage that only showed me or my dogs screw ups!....Someone would have some knots on their head! >:( Im just sayin...

My whole problem with the show is L3 knows just like the rest of us that this was going to make hog hunters look bad no matter how tame it was,the simple fact is that he is probably getting a good paycheck from Discovery and probably  many ranchers that dont know a thing about hog removal will hire the guy.So in reality what he did was sold all hogdoggers out so he could get his company and name out there to make some bucks.You people that keep calling Josh your friend he sold you out too plain and simple.It could have been worse though, Josh could have used some real hog dogs and then the public would have really gone nuts.

"Follow the light Riddick" i hope josh reads some of these posts. ;D man i hope never to get on the bad side of some of you.... :angel:

If he is reading some of these post then he is a better man than me! If I was him, I would be calling a few folks out over some of the comments made for a good ole skull and knuckle party.  :o

Why does he choose to stay silent anyway?  ???

;D

whew i went and read the blogs on DC and i am going to say that i can only be so nice and so helpfull for people that need it up to an extent, but man this is going to be not so good.  people already wrighting there congressman and stuff.  oh man oh man oh man.  i have all of you guys back to the end no matter what but im going to stay away from this topic for now.  sorry if i made anyone hate me.  ya'll are a tough crowd.  

i still say the bad that comes from it is not really the companies themselves, i think it's more the presentation then anything.  Whats being shown is what is killing it. 

Someone please post the Discovery blog link. I see 5 blogs (dirty jobs, 9/11) and a few others but nothing on hogs gone wild.

I just wish I knew of a way that the damage from this program could be undone. Some of the blogs have been pretty scathing.

Cheers
M

Its gonna get worse. We all seen it coming. If you folks wanna get freaked out as hog doggers just read the blog.

I bet L3s email box is getting bombarded by the antis and doggers.All I can say is the dude made him and his wifes bed now he has to lay in it.I would leave the south if I were them :laugh:

dont know if this will work but here goes
http://blogs.discovery.com/discovery-insider/2011/01/hogs-gone-wild.html#comments

Because he knows he sold all hogdoggers out  for the almighty dollar is my guess Boar,I hope he is happy with the damage he has done to our sport.I heard on the next show they are going to put a saddle on Riddick and ride him to the bay :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

It is so sad to watch a sport that has been around for generations be shredded to pieces by the public because of bad tv editing. May have to buy a plane ticket to hollywood to whoop somebodies azz! :(

I have all the frequent flyer miles we need Dinah!

Okay, Here is the deal Folks, lets keep the comments to discussing the show itself, and not turn it all personal against any one individual.
I feel both sides of this discussion from a personal level. Hogs Gone Wild has seven more Shows, meaning Seven more Sunday nights of these comments turning into 8-10 pages of comments for the moderators to have to try and police.

I as an indiviual feel that yes the guy is putting himself in the spotlight to be criticized, by the whole world, the same as any politician or TV personality. The Moderator side of me says we can't have this website endorsing behavior of constantly ragging on an individual, we don't allow names to be mentioned on deals gone bad in public, or calling anyone out, or confrontation done in anything less than a respectfull manner.
Personal side again, the lowest form of an insult to me would be to insult my dogs, even the crappy ones, So I say don't be talking about the dogs by name.

HERE IS THE FINAL WORD, FOR THE NEXT SEVEN WEEKS
KEEP THE POSTS CLEAN, TALK ABOUT THE SHOW, KEEP THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE CHARACTERS TO A RESPECTABLE LEVEL, WE DONT WANT TO BE HERE UNTIL AFTER MIDNIGHT EVERY SUNDAY CLEANING UP POSTS.

I feel asleep before last nights show but I recorded it and can't wait to see it when I get home.

Here's the question I keep asking myself.....I know its one out hunting but why not send another dog to it for help or at least before you try to leg it?  I guess I keep thinking about last wks show and watching that dogo just freaking quit.....it could have gotten bad with L3 flat on his back kicking at a charging boar.   Last time I checked you don't get cool points for only catching it with one. 

They are promtoing this L3 outdoors as the best of the best, well I sure do hope that at least some of the people,mainly farmers and landowners and other hunters, don't come away thinking that ALL Hog hunters and thier dogs are as INEFFECTIVE and ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS as the clowns on this show..
I can only imagine how the general public will percieve all us "just average" hog hunters after watching these "professionals"...   Makes me sick to my stomach...

X2 Chain!!!!!!!

I have a funny (not a slam) I would like to share and see if anyone else noticed it.  Richard when you watch it tonight listen carefully for this.  But after the big hog is cought by Riddick and Josh radios Matt listen and tell me they don't sound slightly Australian when they talk to one another.  It is subtle but definitely there.  Again not a bash or a rant, just an observation that I heard while watching.

exactly

LMAO!!!  I'll be looking for it.  Thanks for the heads up. 

Another funny....listen for the shrill as he falls in front of the changing boar.  I've rewatched that part about 100 times always almost fall out of my chair.  ;D ;D  Sounds like a pro.  LMAO!

 I do wish that i could ask the Team of hogdoggers from Texas a question. When the large dog caught the boar hog on last nights episode. I noticed that when the guy grabbed the hog by the back legs that the dog had turned loose and was biting the hog on the back of the neck. And my question is, did the dog release the hog by command, or is he trained to turn loose when you grab the hog? Not trying to be a smarty pants, just curious. I know that every one has their own way of doing things and we have to choke our cd off or use a break stick and we usually don't do this until the hog is secure, especially when it is a large boar.

Thanks a lot Matt,now I am going to  watch the show again to see if I can catch it. ;)This gets more comical every minute but in reality its pretty sad , I feel this is a huge black eye to our sport that we all love so much.This is pretty much how things were when deer dogs were outlawed minus the computers.Mean old hounds with rednecks killing every deer in site  was how they portrayed us,sound familiar???????????????

Matt I noticed that too. ;D

I think he's trained to release after the pig is under control.

Thank you. :)

Ckeck out the Discovery blog. There are folk (including fellow hunters and outdoorsmen) saying that dogging should be band and we as doggers should be thrown in prison!  :o

A lot of the bloggers on both sides of the issue are hopping that the show is dropped after this episode. Im praying for it!!! Good job Hogs gone Wild!!!  >:(

Judging from the outcry I see on this blog it makes me wonder if this wasnt the Discovery Channels plan all along!  ???

Get ready to battle some legislation folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(  People are writing their Congressman as I type this. Fellow hunters included!!!

all i have to say is that "hollywood" is designed to get a rise out of ppl good or bad and they are dang good at it its obvious from all the commentS  that are floatin around the internet... i watched the show and do not agree with the show it should never of been done imo there is just to much stuff that could go wrong for one i wouldn't show my dogs caught on the hog i would of showed the bayin and then the hogs after they were tied or killed keepin the blood to a very minimum and pretty much the whole show needs to be thrown out the window but that is my 2 cents

Alan,
I find it both ironic and sad that one of the actors at the center of this controversial show, Krystal White ,
happens to be a TDHA BOD.  It seems like someone that is in that position would be the first to make sure that hog dogging would not be portrayed in a negative light.
Maybe she has the best intentions, and never considered the potential bad publicity.... but, seeing as she has been.through this before with the old newspaper article, I am surprised she doesn't remember how bad things can get...

I agree Alan.  The problem I see when reading the  DC blog is that even  fellow hunters (not hog hunters) are asking why use a dog when you can just shoot the hogs.  And actually I understand where they are coming from, especially when the premise of the show is eradicating a problem, not a hunting style. What the show has done is make it look like the dogs are used in place of a gun.  Spotlighting and finding the hog while the dogs ride along in a truck or UTV, then sending the dog to "catch" it is making the sport look bad. And nothing against L3!  The other crew did the same thing on last nights episode. We all know that the dogs are used for finding the hogs and then stopping them, but that is not what is being portrayed.  The people on the blog are likening it to dog fighting, which we all know is not the case.  

Three nights a go I came home at 9:00 PM, and when I turned in the cattle guard there was a huge group of hogs rooting in my father in laws heifer pasture next to his house.  I wanted to go get my dogs, but I also knew I was going to get rid of more of them and out of there faster using the grill guard on my truck!

Been reading that blog on the DC website.  This sure could be another nail in the coffin that we didn't need.  There are a darn lot if ignorant people out there that just don't have a clue about anything that goes on once you leave pavement and what's worse they don't want a clue either.  They just want to sit in their apartments and rage about what they don't understand.  I don't think it would have mattered who was on the show, in that venue the reaction would have been the same. 

Boar it never ceases to amaze   how other hunters that arent doggers are so quick to try and get laws in place to stop doggers.There are some hunting practices that I really dont agree with but I have enough common sense to know if thier favorite sport is banned that mine could be the next sport in jeopardy.I honestly believe we are about to have a fight on our hands in the near future,I hope I am wrong.Many of us from parts of TX where deer dogs were legal at one time are getting nervous because I remember how it all got started and I am having some serious 90s flashbacks.

 I just googled "Hogs gone wild forums" and read about 10 different hunting, bow, and fishing forums where they had discussed the show and other hunters arent holding back. It is obvious that this show has started a wildfire. Most of the comments were pretty bad.  :'(

 :o

Touche Circle C, Touche

You know, for awile I was entertaining the thought of getting a dane just for a one out dog. After seeing how well he worked, I believe I'll stick to what I have. He did handle that big un well, but if they have to spotlight everything for him, why not use a rifle. At least you'd have a chance at more than one off of a group. that style aint for me.

Sadly...more shows to come! Here is the schedule from the Discovery Channel.


Jan 30, 9:00 pm

(60 minutes)Hogs Gone Wild
A Feral Fight
TV-PG (LV), CC

Feral hogs rampage through an exclusive gated community in Tampa, wipe out a crop of valuable macadamia nuts in Hawaii, and threaten a large herd of cattle on a Texas ranch.
 
Jan 30, 10:00 pm

(60 minutes)  Hogs Gone Wild
Wild Hog War
TV-PG (LV)

A mother and daughter live in fear in Hawaii when wild hogs surround their home. Texas trappers track down hogs polluting a natural water source. A 400-pound monster hog puts up a frenzied fight in Florida.
 
Jan 31, 12:00 am

(60 minutes)Hogs Gone Wild
A Feral Fight
TV-PG (LV), CC

Feral hogs rampage through an exclusive gated community in Tampa, wipe out a crop of valuable macadamia nuts in Hawaii, and threaten a large herd of cattle on a Texas ranch.
 
Jan 31, 1:00 am

(60 minutes)Hogs Gone Wild
Wild Hog War
TV-PG (LV)

A mother and daughter live in fear in Hawaii when wild hogs surround their home. Texas trappers track down hogs polluting a natural water source. A 400-pound monster hog puts up a frenzied fight in Florida.
 

As ridiculous as the editing is, that Dane could have trailed that boar 2 counties over and held it for 24 hours before they caught up to him. I dont believe hardly anything I have seen on this show. I did see him holding that big boar all by himself though. That part alone impressed me.

How much do you think that boar weighed, the one the great Dane was holding?

if riddick is as bigg as i think he is then id guess the boar at around 265

i read the comments on the DSC website last night just after the show was aired, but havent since. has anyone here posted a comment there?  maybe some insightful, well thought out, uninflammatory comments would help educate the general public a little?

I figure that hog was coming in around 300. Regardless of what he actually weighed, he was a load for one dog of any size dont you think?

yeah for all the crap thats been talked about him, he did man-handle that ol chubby boar!

I like how everytime They get a hog spot lighted and have ol' super riddick "hunting" it down josh informs us that he is on a hog...lol you can obviously see that is headed in the direction of a hog just get a kick out of that. Of course then again it could be bad editing

I rewound it and looked at it compared to the dog and josh. I thought about 225 lb. Buddy thought 250 lb. He was a big hag.
I realize at lot of the editing may not be on the exact hog caught or released on. The Florida guys have to to ne the worse though. It looked like when the hog was caught....his back legs were tied. Instead of fighting....he sat down with those curs on his front legs.

One out is not looking so, "more humane" now, is it? ;)

I agree, the hunting and dog associations are going to be working OVERTIME on trying to fight and watch for all kinds of new and shady legislation and laws that are fixin to be filed.

I dont think this should have ever been put out there like that. JMO

It was a big hog, cause that Dane is HUGE in person. Just when the two guys loaded it in the back of the Mule it did not fill up the bed so well.

It was a big pig for sure, riddick is more than 3 feet tall at the withers and that pig looked a little taller than him. There is alot of editing in the show, some that makes me laugh and some thats not so good. One thing I think is funny is when they have the "the dog barks one time to let us know he found a pig"... that riddick dog dont bark at nothin, so all those barks are added in to the show. The other thing that sucks is I know some they caught alot more than one pig, no matter how Josh is huntin the part that sucks is that Discoveries editing is not showing doggin as a very effective way of hunting, they should be showing all the pigs caught at the end of the show, and a really good bonus would be for them to show some needy family getting enough free meat to feed them for a month. The other thing they should do inmo is show more of the hunt, gag the guy that is doin the commentary and put some more hunting footage in.

As for taking an AR out there and mowing down hogs, I know several cattle ranches that wont let someone on their property with a hpr. Everyone on here knows that you could have taken out a couple hogs in that group with a gun but after a big burst of round every hog in the county would be layed up, and that the most effective way of gettin rid of hogs is with dogs, cuz once they are layed up you aint gonna find them unless you got some dogs. I wish that the editors of discovery would show that a little more. With better editing this show could have turned out alot better.

I am going to ask this question on this thread, because I know some of Josh's friends are on here posting and maybe they can do a better job answering my question...

What is the difference in a Great Dane and an American Boarhound?   I remember when Josh got Riddick, and he was a Great Dane, now looking on his website, he is a registered American Boarhound...I don't get it. What's the difference, or is it a different name for the same breed???

http://www.l3outdoors.com/our_dogs.cfm

Chris,

I talked with one of his buddies last night for about 45 minutes.  I asked the same thing.  Basically, Josh wanted to bring attention that the Danes were originally boar hounds from his research.  Obviously, it draws attention to him as a hog hunter.  It would be like me saying I hunt blueticks, or just calling them "Over rated dogs".  Same thing, just phrased differently.   ;)

I was also told that Josh receives a lot of ribbing from his buddies on the "American Boarhound" name.  They all come up with special names for their dogs just to pick at him.

As stated by me in other post, as well as last week - absolutely HORRIBLE! This second episode is even worse for team L3 and I hope they save some grace and have the DC pull them from any further episodes. I mean, they drive their dog to the hog, and have to re-hab him with water so he doesn't croke on TV. The dog is big, but he is useless in my humble opinion. If I have to drive him, hold the spotlight, then "hope and pray" he doesn't have a heart attack, I just as soon ride around on my farm all night with a spotlight, rifle, and drink beer.

I understand they have to make it "entertaining" for TV, but they could have done the right thing for their sport and either turned down the Discovery Channel or insisted it air honestly. I think the young men in Florida are better for the sport than L3, because that crew makes us look bad. Maybe they need more "bling" in her outfit or reflective striping on their cute little shirts!

 

I wonder if a "grade" Great Dane, can become a "registered" Boar Hound?

On a side note...   We have found in the Aussies, that the working lines can become severely watered down in a matter of a few generations. Fortunately in the Aussie circles, there are still enough ranchers using the dogs, that there is still a gene pool of working dogs to tap.   I wonder what a hundred years, or even 50 years of pet breeding has done to the Great Dane with regards to the working lines? Or if there have been any people that have preserved the working lines of the Great Danes?

I guess my response is "who cares".  I can't begin to imagine feeding that monster.  Those dogs are better suited for the comics section in the Sunday paper. JMO

Amen to that! A co-worker here has one and it was in my office yesterday. I was showing him how to use my e-collar he needs to borrow. The dog is 7 mos, weighs 117#, and lives inside. His wife is 4'7" and weighs 94#. The dog won't lead, so now they are looking at me to help "fix" him.

I think that the pet breeding has pretty much shot 99.9% of great danes in america to number 2 as far as making them working dogs. Would take some time and some good culling to get a good working line going again.

I think Boarhound is just what danes were called before people started breeding them as pets. I have just called anything that will run down a hog and catch it a boar hound but here is a definition.http://www.thefreedictionary.com/boarhound

They must not be too watered down if they got riddick from craigslist or thrifty nickel (I believe it was one of those). He was said to be the first dane they tried and he is apparently the hog dog. If L3 is the only one out there trying to resurrect the dane as a working breed, then I will assume that riddick is pet bred like all the other American bred danes. To have the first dog you try work out, then I would say the pet market hasn't watered them down too bad. That said, I have a friend who has all her brood stock brought in from Australia. She will not buy an American dane to save her life because she swears the quality is not there. Nothing against L3, but the first dog he had to use on hogs, capstick, was proclaimed to be one for the history books. Now the first dane he has tried is equally billed as phenomenal. It would appear he has no culls.

Cheers
M

I think he has culled out a few unfortunately. I have pics of a few of the danes he has tried, and so far he has only found two. He just doesnt talk much about the dogs that dont work...why would he? Does anyone else tell the world about their "favorite culls"?

Tcolt, perhaps I should have left out about the culls, but the first hog dog he tried was great, as was his first dane. I wish I had such luck with ones I tried. Seems like I try ten to get one that I really like. I said I wasn't knocking him, just pointing out what APPEARED to be fact. It is good for him if he has only had a few culls. I don't mind talking about the ones which don't work out myself, but then again I am not hunting or breeding to make a living. I do it for sport because I love it and I spend a lot more money than I make.

Cheers
M

I just like talkin about the ones that workout, the ones that dont usually dont produce too many stories haha

Some of the most memorable times sometimes involve culls. Catching the biggest hanging weight hog I have ever been on with three cur dogs and no bulldog was one of them. The pit was just starting out and happened to get on that huge boar. She took one look at that corn field boar hog and loaded herself back in the truck! Luckily we were right there and those three curs handled things. It was a tough one just on account of size. That was a story worth sharing with the buddies and the no account bulldog added a huge part to it.
Cheers
M

Tcolt, is that picture of DASH on the hog in the wooded pen?
 I ahve to add that I really like that dog, just so no one thinks I am giving off malicious undertones.

Yes, thats a pic of dash. I like her too, her head is kinda ugly lol, but hopefully she will turn out good for josh. Im thinkin she is gonna turn up on the show here sometime, but I dont know.

Chris, on the TDHA site, L3 has posted all his work re writing the standards for a boar hound. It may answer your question about registering a grade Dane as a boar hound.

If it is in a section you cant see, let me know and I'll PM it to you.

Not trying to be a smart A$$ but why in the world would you want to register a dane as a boar hound ??? rolleyes?

Funny thing happened today.  I called the 1 800 for Dish network to get service at my shop and the feller on the other end of the line was trying to sell me the "Sports Package" and I told him I wanted everything but the sports cause we dont football.  Im sure their alot that do and thats great, we just dont!  As i was telling him what I wanted he said well mam' hunting is a sport... and I said yea, it is.  We talked on for a long time about hunting and all then he said "I seen the craziest thing the other night on the Discovery Channel".  I said, yea what did you see?  He proceeded in telling me all about the Hogs gone wild show and said that it was awsom.  I said well, things are really a little different than that but for the most part, its round about similar.  He said that he thought that they were making up the story about pigs being wild, mean, dangerouse and in peoples yards.... i laughed and told him that that part was the true part.  He never said anything bad about the sport of hog hunting and had plenty of chances but for  the most part,he  liked it.  I am just hoping that others were not discouraged by the show and that others liked it like he did!!!  Hey, by the end of our conversation, he gave me a dang good deal on service too!! lol  Just wanted to share a short story, that may be a good thing and that maybe...just maybe people really arent hating our sport of hog hunting as much as we may think!! 

I hope your right,the few people that I have had watch the show that dont hog hunt thought it was pretty cool and want to make a hunt with me.

 if you are not a hunter the show looks good. and is filmed to be hunter positive. only a hunter can tell you that the people are idiots. Just keep in mind the show is to entertain and educate non hunters  of the importance of hunting. i do think that with experience and guidance the Florida boys could be good.and the hawaii guy is verry entertaning they def do things diffrent. as for the Dane he looks great on camera even if he cant get the job done. in my kennels he would be culled but than i would have never tried to train a Dane. back in the day Great Danes were great hunters but over time  the hunting instinct was bread out to make better pets and that’s were they should stay.  As for the show as long as they keep the positive look on hunting I will watch and support it. just my opinion

Great Danes are not hog dogs and have not been for 175 years, they are dumb, slow, dont bark and eat too much and wont fit in dog box and will drag you down if you try to lead them, why waste time on junky show dogs who poop 5 pounds a day??? lol

There's stil some with drive.   I bought one for my now wife I'n high school. Got him at 8 weeks old from lady I'n forney they are supose to raise the biggest great Danes I'n USA.  Bruiser was 235 lbs I'n his fatest stage hid did really nothin but lay round was bayin hogs one day and he wandered down there and caught 220lb first time he ever saw one. And caught hard.   I am I no way saying I would ever use one but every house dog I've ever had hated hogs from Boston terrier greatdane basset hound and rat terrier I have now.  He was also not afraid to through down with another dog if u didn't watch him. Josh called a few times wanting to breed to him wen he was first wanting to go to one but never did and he died shortly after bout two yrs ago now only pic I got right now but he was normally bout 200 lbs real bulky for great Dane. And wasn't to clumsy wen he got bout three then he be came fat
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/catchdog/7-30-08008.jpg)

well, i tried to stay out of this one for obvious reasons.  First, I've hunted with Josh's dog in brush and he did suprisingly well.  Out hunted a dog i thought was hunting fairly well at the time.  I've also hunted with him on some plowed under corn fields and we used a spotlight to find the hogs because the fields we hunted were off of a WELL traveled highway.  If you asked me if i'd feed the dog, i'd have to say it would depend on what i had to hunt.  Where Josh hunts and what he hunts it is effective, is it more effective than hunting with bay dogs that's all just debate.  No way to make that call I don't care who you are.  I've also witnessed that dog holding a hog (that was even back to back for over 45 minutes) that was the biggest i've ever seen in the wild.  He's a highly driven dog, I'll for damn sure say that. 

Now, for Josh, I'll leave the only thing i can say .............. absolutely nothing.  Dont think nothing of him or about him.

The show absolutely sucks. Period.  I think it's a joke and so does everyone else i've talked to or read on the almighty internet.  Best thing i can say is don't watch.   Shows with piss poor ratings don't last very long.  The less you speak of him or his "company" the less publicity they get.  I'm sure you've all heard the saying "There's no such thing as bad publicity"....

he needs to find him some good find dogs an loose the light... i just got bac from a good hunt my yeller dog dosent really hunt good at night but he did tonight he found a stinker 450+ boar.. he was most deff a dog killer ears all tore up he had one top cutter that was 4+ an bottom 4+ glad he's dead.. dam hog was carring him off an would had if it hadnt been for my to catch dogs an my buddys younger dogs this was there first hog but hin hundreth ol dan to find.. but what im sayn is why dont we show the world what real doggin is about not sayn everyone cant do it ut i've seen many people freeze when they see that big black boar yall know wat i mean.... you know if it was easy everybody would be doin it... an you have to really dedicate some real time if you want some good dogs an catch the big one... good night yall... im taking video cam in tomorrow i'll let yall know how we do ..