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Title: Well I am stumped....
Post by: hogaholicswife on July 06, 2011, 07:46:59 pm
We have had an extremely rough 3 weeks, we have went from catching nothing / little squirts to catching everything with attitude and needless to say 85% of our kennel is a recovery ward at this point to some extent....even the little female that never gets hurt come home with a bruiser.

Any how, my Nitro dog was one of the worst and absolutely has me stumped.  He had his scrotum cut and had one of his testicles hanging.  I was very meticulous in cleaning it up and putting it back "properly" to try to avoid any circulation loss by putting it in backwards or twisted, yet allowing it to drain if need be....I won't lie that it had crossed my mind to just 'cut him' and move on but never did it to a dog before so wasnt sure how to proceed.  I put him on Penicillan and Rymadiluntil I could get to my supply of Baytril.   

He isnt holding fluid but his scrotum is the size of a Pepsi can  :-\  I am concerned but I am thinking it may be swelling from trauma?  I honestly am not sure and thought I would ask if anyone else had ran into this before, if he isnt better in the next day or so he is most likely going to the vet.


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: ETHHunters on July 06, 2011, 07:58:10 pm
I had a dog several months back had the exact same thing happen. I took him straight to the vet and I was told a cut in that spot was nothing to mess with. Its very dangerous. The vet wanted to cut him but after we talked about it said he would try to save them. He pulled through but under the close watch of the vet for a week. His testicles were swollen for a couple weeks but I would take him to the vet.


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: DixieDogs24 on July 06, 2011, 07:59:18 pm
I would go on and take him to the vet. JMO. Never had it happen myself I run female dogs only but if he is worth the money get him to a vet ASAP. Hogs carry bacteria in the mouth prolly has a bad infection. Like I said JMO


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: Amokabs on July 06, 2011, 08:01:36 pm
Scrotum is a funny bag o tricks, a lil trauma and it'll swell like the dickins!,,,,,,, 
Allotta those type o wounds have to be drained and really watched, heavy duty antibiotics etc, probably best to take em to the vet


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: shankem on July 06, 2011, 08:05:49 pm
Had this happen last summer; stapled it back in as you did. No problems until a few weeks ago it swole up again. I had him neutered.
Also my Bug chewed and licked at his which I believe contributed to excessive swelling; had to buy a cone to put on him both times to let the wounds heal. Vet said there was a good amount of scar tissue when he neutered him. He's almost healed and acts 100% . Hope your dog heals well and the outcome is better than mine. Well wishes to the rest of yalls pack as well.

ps. I used Dexamethasone for inflammation initially, and Cephalexin for infection.
     It healed well but was always easily irritated.


Best of Luck!


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: Texas_Cur on July 06, 2011, 08:08:13 pm
Had it happen to a catchdog during tournament weekend.  We put everything back in and washed it all with saline solution and water.  Sutured the sack back together with a small opening at the top and bottom for water to enter and drain.  He was given Penicillin for 3 days (3cc, 2cc, 1cc) as well as a Penicillin drip directly into the wound, and flushed with running water twice a day everyday for two weeks.  The dog was good catching hogs again in 4-5 weeks, it was amazing how quickly he healed.  

The testicles did swell quite a bit but that was to be expected.  If they look infected in any way I would get him to a vet immediately, I agree with the others that an infection in that area is nothing to mess with.


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: noelle on July 06, 2011, 08:18:30 pm
Happened to me about 6yrs ago, he was castrated doctored it with cut n heal for a wk or two he recovered fine and was huntin again in a couple weeks, his were tore up and not much chance or reason to try and save them tho, Would prolly recommend a vet tho if it's done infected


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: ole shep on July 06, 2011, 08:33:17 pm
Mondo is all hog dog but half the dog he used to be. Yes I got the holding job. He took it better than I would have. Saw him today, was fat and happy. Your story sounds very familiar to our past month or two.


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: Purebreedcolt on July 06, 2011, 08:34:01 pm
Baytril asap and dex.  Should have cut the one that was hanging in my opinion. Never on a hog but seen it on I guess he caught it on a fence they cut the one hanging and sewed it back up and if I remember right he sired a litter after it.  I was young young but remember some.


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: hogaholicswife on July 06, 2011, 08:42:57 pm
I am probably one of the most anal retentive people about drainage and infection, it is draining fine and I do not believe its infected because I can smell infection like no body's business (my nose is my worst enemy).  I looked for any sign of puncture before I put him back together and it just looks as if someone slit it like you would a hog and fell out with no trauma to the actual testicle its self.  

I am just stumped that it is staying swollen like it is, I am not above admitting when I am over my head and if I had thought for a minute it would have stayed like this he would have already been to the vet.  I was just curious to see how others have addressed it in the past.

Where can I get the Dex from - is that vet prescribed?

Thanks all.


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: shankem on July 06, 2011, 08:45:50 pm
Yes mam; I got mine from a vet.


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: NechesBobcat on July 06, 2011, 09:01:33 pm
If it happened to me I would just ask that someone go ahead and put me out of my misery. Already upset that I can't lick them. That would just be adding pain to insult.


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: Purebreedcolt on July 06, 2011, 09:06:39 pm
Lmao I nearly fell out of the chair bobcat.  But yes dex is vet required but is easy to get one from a horse person or just tell the vet what you do who you are etc etc and they will usually give it to you.  It is not overly regulated.


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: djhogdogger on July 06, 2011, 10:04:57 pm
We had that happen to our best dog a year ago. James just cleaned it up real good, put it back in the sack, stappled it up and then he went and bayed another hog that night. The next day it swoll up pretty good so i started him on pennicillian and a few days after that I went to check on him and the swelling was gone and he had chewed the stapples out. Now there isn't even much of a scar.

Oh yea, and we got a litter of puppies out of him afterwards.  ;D


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: SCHitemHard on July 06, 2011, 10:27:12 pm
if it was me i would move on and clip em, no sense in risking infection even with meds pumping he could still get a infection



Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: bighogtexasstyle on July 06, 2011, 10:38:23 pm
have yall had problems with them being sterile after the swelling just wondering i had abig leopard rcd got bit by a snake in his sack swole up big as my welding cap [and thats a 7 3/4 ] never wanted to cold trail or breed a gyp from the on.


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: charles on July 07, 2011, 05:37:16 am
 I cant say i had mine cut open by a hog, but when i had my vasectamy, just from the little 1" cuts they made, mine swole up like a grapefruit. so i would assume that the trauma would be close to the same but with more injury having the sack tore open instead of a nice surgical cut. im with every1 else, VET ASAP.


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: sfboarbuster on July 07, 2011, 11:49:17 am
Ashley, you should be able to get dex from Doc Harvey or Bryant in Okeechobee no problem. If they know you all you have to do is call em and they will make a prescription to pic up ;)


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: hogaholicswife on July 07, 2011, 12:07:43 pm
I called and left a message for them but its getting past the girls up front that is the trick >:D, my mom went to school with Dr Harvey at ABAC and him/Dr Bryant have always taken care of our horses and a few late night calls....we used to be able to call and get pretty much anything we needed but now they want them brought in for everything but I have another source checking for me.

Thx


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: sfboarbuster on July 07, 2011, 03:33:30 pm
I wish I still had Dr. Bryants cell number for ya


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: hogaholicswife on July 07, 2011, 03:48:27 pm
Thats alright, he is working late tonight so I am going to go let him teach me something and Dr him up....maybe I can talk him out of some Dex to take home and more Baytril.


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: jtmitchell21 on July 07, 2011, 04:06:09 pm
We had that happen to our best dog a year ago. James just cleaned it up real good, put it back in the sack, stappled it up and then he went and bayed another hog that night. The next day it swoll up pretty good so i started him on pennicillian and a few days after that I went to check on him and the swelling was gone and he had chewed the stapples out. Now there isn't even much of a scar.

Oh yea, and we got a litter of puppies out of him afterwards.  ;D
we had it happen two months ago we didnt do nothin but give him a shot of penn it looked like it never happened now we didnt even put it back the old ranchers place we were hunting on gave him a new name that day (nutts) and suprisingly the two yr old dog dont go to anyone but us and now him everytime we go hunting there he says ol  nutts come here boy how ya feeling and that dog only besides mayb a pup will go right to him and let him pet him


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: hogaholicswife on July 07, 2011, 08:28:47 pm
I got in to see the Doc, his tech was surprised I was able to stitch him up with out knocking him out. I told them it was an early morning set of repairs but I had spent alot of time cleaning him up.  Said just keep an eye out and make sure he keeps draining and stays on feed that if it doesnt go down by mid next week bring him back and he would try to take out the one that may have recvd the most trauma.

I just love the large animal vets compared to the small ones (although I do admit the entire building is an outstanding group). 

I now own a bottle of Dex along with a good supply of Baytril and Rymadil.  He said I should just come to work for them lol and then asked if I had called earlier and what name I used, when I told him my maiden name he started laughing and said "heck I didnt know who you were by that name!" I told him I go by both and couldnt remember which one I used most :laugh: cause doc harvey knows me by my maiden name.  I am so thankful for these guys even though their front desk can be a wee bit difficult rolleyes. Thanks to everyone for your input as I was truly stumped!


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: Purebreedcolt on July 07, 2011, 11:02:23 pm
Good to hear figgured you could get your hands on some dex it is controled but not vary tightly


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: bddhoggdogin on July 08, 2011, 08:57:46 am
The swelling is caused by the high trauma and the blood stops flowing on its own due to the trauma which causes the skin to swell within 3-4 days the swelling should decrease 5cc penicillin for 10 days and aqua therapy once a day for 10 days not sprayer type pressure just a little more than running hose pressure that will get dead tissue off and allow it to heal faster put a cone on him to keep him from licking to avoid staple or stitch tare do thid and he will be fine any sigh of infection take him in


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: spazhogdog on July 11, 2011, 08:46:50 pm
How is the dog doing?  Did his manhood go down or out  ;D


Title: Re: Well I am stumped....
Post by: hogaholicswife on July 11, 2011, 08:59:46 pm
His boys are on the path to recovery  :D  the Dex was the trick by a long shot, after two days of it he was like new again.  He was jumping up in down in his pen this afternoon like there was nothing wrong lol I was truly concerned that we would have to get him neutered but it looks like he is going to get to keep them.

I will not be with out it again that is for sure....thanks to all that recommended it - if only I had known about it sooner!