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Title: Parvo in yard
Post by: southtexasff on July 14, 2011, 04:07:48 pm
Several years back I had a litter of pups pick up parvo in my yard and lost all but one pup.   I have heard once its in your yard it is there permanently.  I have also heard it is easier to pick up when there is alot of rain.  I have a two pups that are not fully vaccinated.  I am wanting to let em out of the kennel to get a chance to explore the yard, what are the chances of them pickin up the parvo?


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: skunkhounds on July 14, 2011, 04:12:53 pm
i have it in my yard as long as they have had there first shot they should be fine


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: Peachcreek on July 14, 2011, 04:16:18 pm
i know this much.....Parvo Sucks.... the vet told me a controlled burn of your yard gets rid of it... i went to the dollar store and bought 12 2 gallon bottles of bleach and sprayed in the yard with a pump up sprayer. Kock on some wood I have not had an issue scince.


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: Peachcreek on July 14, 2011, 04:17:36 pm
two of my 3-4 month old pups had had their shots and still picked it up. parvo sucks


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: tomtom on July 14, 2011, 05:00:35 pm
 If they do happen to get it, hand feed them little balls of raw hamburger meat and shoot Pedialyte or Gatorade down there throats. They will get through it and you will probably save every one of them.


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: wilton on July 15, 2011, 08:35:27 pm
check out a website call Wolf Creek Ranch.com  they have everything/anything you could want from natural organic products, 10yrs. experience, plenty of advice, info. proven stats. etc. forget the vets. and the chemicals these people know what they're doing and we should all learn from them.


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: BobbyB on July 15, 2011, 09:05:36 pm
check out a website call Wolf Creek Ranch.com  they have everything/anything you could want from natural organic products, 10yrs. experience, plenty of advice, info. proven stats. etc. forget the vets. and the chemicals these people know what they're doing and we should all learn from them.

Just looked it up and its wolfcreekranch.net.

I just lost ZZ and Top to parvo. So far everyone else is fine


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: grittydog on July 15, 2011, 09:10:07 pm
Why take the chance? What will another month hurt?


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: Randy_P on July 15, 2011, 09:51:30 pm
i have it in my yard as long as they have had there first shot they should be fine

This is not true....pups that have had even 3 or 4 rounds can still get it...I have had a rough year with parvo and pups... I also have a 10 month old pup that was in teh same pen with two of his littermates that died of parvo.  He was laying in the discharge and never got sick... Parvo is a tricky SOB


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: BobbyB on July 15, 2011, 10:08:50 pm
What y'all have to remember is, there is a newer tougher strain 154 parvo. It will over ride the commonly used vaccines and knock 'em out quick. I have a friend with bird dogs that have nearly lost everything in their kennels to the 154 strain and these dogs were 3-4 years old and current on all vaccinations.



Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: noelle on July 15, 2011, 10:32:37 pm
I haven't had a problem in years, had sum pups get it before that were vaccinated so I believe they can still get it. Always heard it takes 7-8yrs to get out the ground. I used pine-o-pine all over the yard after an old man told me it would get it gone and haven't had a problem since so in my opinion pine sol works for Gettin it out of the ground


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: SCHitemHard on July 15, 2011, 10:46:22 pm
I haven't had a problem in years, had sum pups get it before that were vaccinated so I believe they can still get it. Always heard it takes 7-8yrs to get out the ground. I used pine-o-pine all over the yard after an old man told me it would get it gone and haven't had a problem since so in my opinion pine sol works for Gettin it out of the ground

weve used pine sol, it doesnt kill the grass either


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: dub on July 15, 2011, 11:55:57 pm
Parvo does not live that long in the yard. It is very contagious and people can carry on their shoes and clothes. A dog can pass it through the fence with no contact at all.

When I lost a puppy to Parvo I got every dog I had a Parvo shot. I bleached where the dog was laying when I found him. I threw the kennel away I used to take him to the vet. I washed my truck out with water and soap. I have had three more puppies through that all had their Parvo shots on time and no problem. It is so easy to spread that you have to get all the Parvo vaccinations on time.


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: noelle on July 16, 2011, 12:05:42 am
Just luck probably... Cuz the vaccine DOES NOT prevent them 100% from catching parvo


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: Peachcreek on July 16, 2011, 12:22:44 am
Just luck probably... Cuz the vaccine DOES NOT prevent them 100% from catching parvo

x2 done that

my boo dog had 4 shots every two weeks 6-8-10-12 and caught parvo and almost died at 5 months old. $830 dollars later to bud aldrege and he was fine..... My Miley dog .... the same freaken thing happened... I think it is in the woods around my house as long as i keep the pups in the pen i dont have a problem but there has been allot of bleach sprayed out there popo


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: Reuben on July 16, 2011, 01:51:28 pm
i have it in my yard as long as they have had there first shot they should be fine

This is not true....pups that have had even 3 or 4 rounds can still get it...I have had a rough year with parvo and pups... I also have a 10 month old pup that was in teh same pen with two of his littermates that died of parvo.  He was laying in the discharge and never got sick... Parvo is a tricky SOB


Parvo has an incubation period of at least a week or so. The pup can be infected with parvo and the pup looks fine and he gets the parvo vaccine but the pup will come down with the parvo and probably die anyway.

Another virus that never gets talked about is the corona virus. It is hard for the VET to identify the difference between Parvo and Corona because they are so much alike.

I lost pups back in the 1980's to corona but I give the 7 in 1 plus corona. It should be called the 8 in 1 vaccine. Haven't lost a pup since to either virus.

The 7 in 1 is much cheaper that the 8 in 1 but is useless as far as I am concerned.

I suspect that most pups that die from parvo are really dying from coronavirus and not parvo. I also believe that most of the folks that are loosing pups blame the 7 in 1 vaccine. The thought is that the vaccine was bad...I NEVER USE THE 7 IN 1...


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: TimmsHogDogs on July 16, 2011, 02:50:22 pm
A Vet will tell you parvo staus in the ground 6 months to one year


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: Reuben on July 16, 2011, 02:53:49 pm
A Vet will tell you parvo staus in the ground 6 months to one year

x2,  Bleach and water will kill it...


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: TimmsHogDogs on July 16, 2011, 03:05:17 pm
A Vet will tell you parvo staus in the ground 6 months to one year

x2,  Bleach and water will kill it...

yep


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: noelle on July 16, 2011, 03:08:17 pm
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I suspect that most pups that die from parvo are really dying from coronavirus and not parvo. I also believe that most of the folks that are loosing pups blame the 7 in 1 vaccine. The thought is that the vaccine was bad...I NEVER USE THE 7 IN 1...
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Thats just an opinion, and in my opinion a bad one... Corona is not as widespread as parvo, and 7 in 1 vaccine is not the blame for any dog getting parvo and is not totally useless... Its missing corona virus vaccine mayb because corona is not the killer of most puppys, possibly on a few occasions but a 7 way vaccine is a good vaccine, and just a straight coronavirus vaccine is not gonna do the trick either... Pups that get and die from parvo may get it by bad luck or contaminated environments or other dogs but the 7 way vaccine does not cause pups to get coronavirus and ive never heard anyone blame 7 in 1 vaccine for their pups dying... just my opinion I have used it for years and have had no problems with pups in many years and i know that the most vet checked healthy vaccinated puppy can still get parvo.... just like a flu shot dont mean u wont get the flu, it lowers the risk. same with dog vaccines ;) bleach or pine sol will get it out of the ground, thats probably the best way to keep the pups from getting it instead of relying 100% on vaccines that just reduce the risk...JMO


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: BobbyB on July 16, 2011, 03:15:33 pm
Blade got sick and was over it in less than 3 days. 3 days after Blade gets sick, Top show the same symptoms and a day later, ZZ does as well. They were in side by side runs. Top dies on his day 3 and ZZ on her day 2, both the same day.

I know we have parvo here because I pup I brought home got sick and died of it last week.

But after reading this

http://www.cpvh.com/Articles/8.html

I just believer Blade, ZZ and Top had Coronavirus. It just dont add up to parvo.

I know we have gone thru about 5 gallons of Clorox since July 5th. And my puppies are separated by the width of the yard and i their own house.

It is still hard on the nerves wondering if it is over or not.


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: noelle on July 16, 2011, 03:33:12 pm
bleach or pine o pine oughta knock it out of ur yard hope the other pups make it.


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: Reuben on July 16, 2011, 08:43:22 pm
BobbyB,

the 7 in 1 is a bargain but like I said it is worthless unless you buy the corona vaccine to go along with it... Better yet get the 7 in 1 plus corona...in the early eighties I lost a few pups to parvo and the a few years later to corona...I have saved some of those pups by force feeding fluids and a little food and if they make it 3 days their immune system kicks in and they recover. Both corona and parvo are highly contagious.

The reason I say that the pups that get infected now are really dying from corona because so many people only give the 7 in 1.

I only give 2 shots to a pup and it is the 8 in 1, and then I give one about every other year after that.

I do remember that the vet back then said it was real hard to tell the difference between corona and parvo.


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: brandonb on July 16, 2011, 08:59:26 pm
When I was younger we had a few dogs die from it even older dogs its bad stuff. Best solution we found was to bleach the heck out of it or use pine on pine not sure if it actually worked but we have never had a parvo problem there since. Also had a dumb guy bring a bunch of puppies to our old apartment complex that had parvo and it got to quite a few ppls dogs they used the pine o pine and lime treatment and no problems since. Other that that people have always said it takes 7 to 8 years to get out of the ground. I wish you the best of luck lots of raw meat and pedialite or gatorade to ones who get it I know first hand how hard it is to watch a dog suffer from this.


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: halfbreed on July 16, 2011, 10:22:51 pm
if you;ve givin your pups the 5-way or7-way shots and they start passin bloody stools and got the runs treat for coccsidiose [my spellin sint to good ] ;D but i raise my pups on dirt and with the ckickens and the cow birds and cows cocci is the most abundant virus around and has the same symptoms as parvo . when my pups start drinkin water i treat with sulmet once a week havent had a problem since i started program . my EX-wife was a vet tech for years [ thats why i married her , but i had to cull her  >:D ]  i never had corona problem . but cocci on my old farm was bad stuff lived rite in middle of cow pasture jmo hope it helps MR. whitten


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: noelle on July 17, 2011, 04:14:24 am
Reuben,
So u have been givin 8-in-1 since the early 80s? and haven't had any puppies with sickness since? 8 in 1 cured all illness and diseases? Some in the early 80s had parvo but that just went away and a few yrs later u suddenly have coronavirus? After starting the 8-in-1? Something just don't add up I'm completely confused here and there's no way you can rediagnose every dog that has ever had parvo and just decide everyone elses dog didn't have parvo but had corona instead and recommend a treatment that contradicts everyone who has had a dog with parvo... Mayb u had a run in with coronavirus and Mayb the symptoms are similar but parvo DOES exist and is common among puppies and most cases can be resolved by spraying bleach or pine sol prior to exposing the pups to the area... If haven't had any sick pups since early 80s u must b doin something rite, no offense intended I just disagree about everyone blaming 7 in 1 on their pups getting coronavirus and parvo doesn't exist ;)


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: Reuben on July 17, 2011, 06:07:08 am
Noelle,

Sometime in 1980 or so Parvo struck for the first time and many dogs and pups were lost. A few years later corona struck and did the same. Once the vaccines came out I haven't lost a pup since then due to either disease. I haven't bred any pups since 2007 though.
I did lose more than half of one litter and more than likely it was coccidiosis. The reason why I don't think it was parvo or corona is because it took more than 3 or 4 days to lose a pup.

Prevention is the best policy when raising pups.

I start worming at 1 week of age and worm weekly which also includes the mama dog. I also raise them on concrete and keep the kennel clean. I only give 2 shots and that is it.

The reason why I keep bringing up corona is because everyone on this forum has been talking mostly about parvo and the vets have been calling all this sickness parvo and this leads me to believe that in some instances it could be corona. I made the mistake years ago of only giving the 7 in 1 but learned quickly that that will kill pups due to ignorance.

Since I got on this forum all I have heard about has been about parvo and not one time have I seen someone talk about corona. However, I will say that I haven't read every thread or post that has been posted on here...

Just like anyone else would do... just trying to save someone the errors I have made in the past.


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: halfbreed on July 17, 2011, 08:50:07 am
one method of keeping pups hydrated that i use is a product called re-sorb for scouring calves, after forcing fluids into sick pups most time they just throw iy back up .the [re-sorb ] is a powder mix with glucose vita.electrolite you mix together  .after mixing you get a big syring and fill the loose skin around the neck with the solution .there body will absorb the fluid as needed. i was taught this by a vet years ago when the vet had a dog on fluids IV drip and didn't want to stay over nite and watch to make sure the dog didn't pull it out. this is what the vet would do . he used glucose wich the re-sorb has in it plus vitamins and electrolites . this has helped me through some ruff spots even did it to my cd after he over heated he was sick and would drink water and throw it up repeatedly . this is my method that i use myself after consulting vets  my best advice is to consult a vet on dog matters when possible. before using some ones thoughts on the subject. thers dang good advice on here just get several oppinions for yourself first. some work some dont.


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: Reuben on July 17, 2011, 01:03:06 pm
one method of keeping pups hydrated that i use is a product called re-sorb for scouring calves, after forcing fluids into sick pups most time they just throw iy back up .the [re-sorb ] is a powder mix with glucose vita.electrolite you mix together  .after mixing you get a big syring and fill the loose skin around the neck with the solution .there body will absorb the fluid as needed. i was taught this by a vet years ago when the vet had a dog on fluids IV drip and didn't want to stay over nite and watch to make sure the dog didn't pull it out. this is what the vet would do . he used glucose wich the re-sorb has in it plus vitamins and electrolites . this has helped me through some ruff spots even did it to my cd after he over heated he was sick and would drink water and throw it up repeatedly . this is my method that i use myself after consulting vets  my best advice is to consult a vet on dog matters when possible. before using some ones thoughts on the subject. thers dang good advice on here just get several oppinions for yourself first. some work some dont.

never heard of this one but sounds good to me. I would force feed the pup  until I felt the pup held down enough, until the next go around...

Is Re-Sorb sold in the local feed stores?


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: halfbreed on July 17, 2011, 06:49:33 pm
most all feed stores that handle vet supplies i get mine at tsc . comes in a dry packet mix two solutions together .and store extra in ref. until needed  but it's best to let it warm  good before injecting


Title: Re: Parvo in yard
Post by: charles on July 18, 2011, 06:17:03 am
Had a litter last yr come down with parvo, lost a fm, n saved a fm n male. I shot 50cc of saline under the skin every couple hrs, shot a blended mixture of eggs for protien n sardines for iron replacement from loss of blood just plain yogart when i would shoot the saline. It took bout 5 days to get them to come around n back to eatn n drinkn on their own. I used a pto tiller, tiller the entire yard and used 5 bottles of bleach for a 55gal drum of water n let it drain out as i tilled the ground n didnt hav any more issues. Mite hav went a lil overboard tilling it but i didnt want the stuff around. Lots of re-hydration n replinishment of protien n iron n electrolytes for a wk or so is the cheapest but wears on the sleep time, but it beats a $600+ vet bill