EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

how do yall break your dogs from bein extremely rough or is it bred in them and just gotta live with it?

I like em like that; if they don't get whipped out. :)

Im not real sure about this question, Im a firm believer that if a dog is gritty he will stay that way. Sometimes a big Boar hog can break them down a little bit. As far as keeping your puppy from being gritty or trying to catch Ive heard to cut the ears off the hog you use for training. That way they cant try and catch it they just have to bay. Good luck

Mine are perty rough when they start up... the older they get, they tend to bay a little more... more than 2(sometimes even 2) and it's a caught hog no matter the size...

Haven't found a way to back them off yet other than hunting them by themself.

If that doesn't work, they usually make a good catch dog!  ;D

I'm talkin bout full Cur dogs catchin the first hog they see at 4-5 mths and bayin once and catching or just catching the rest of their life no matter how bad they get cut, alone or with other dogs, no mAtter how big a hog... I'm thinkin it's just gonna have to try to b bred out cuz this Is normal for the line I run

mine start rough and end up rougher

Yep, I would agree...

You ever tried nubbin' the canines?

no dont want to i like them to catch and hold   lol

Ahh just get you a couple more rough dogs and stop chasing hogs lol

Lol ya there all fairly rough and gotta break off most of the time, I like em rough so don't have to chase em as much but I get tired of sewin em up lol I always get sore thumbs. And what's worse I mite only have one make it to see a yr old

Good gosh get you some vests and don't start them till a year old let them learn on training hunts and pen how and when to be rough this is my theory and seems to work sometimes lol

I dnt mind rough dogs,Ive had them in the past,but I own the best pack of dogs Ive ever had at this moment,and none of them are rough...heck my dogs wont catch anythang over 60 lbs.. the way I see it is I dnt just go hunting to catch pigs,I also go to see my dogs work,ive had my dogs bayin a 100 lb boar for 2 hours with no problem ,while I was sitting on my truck drinkin a few beers...I just wanted to see what kinda bottom they had... but to each his own

how is that bob tail male working out for ya

i'd start them young enough on something that they can't handle ... but can't kill them  ;)

I don't like rough dogs myself . I think they get good dogs killed. That being said. I'm sure a lot will disagree ;D I have seen a elite few that were smart enough to be rough and a few smart enough to run with them.But most have to have help to stay alive they will get cut up and there help will too. That is if they can track one far enough to get out of sight.Now y'all can tell me how wrong I am. I prefer dogs that can strike a track go till they bay him up. Then put the biters in. Strike and bay dogs have no business fighting a hog. There job is to find them, the hardest part. This is the SPORT to me matching a dogs ability to find and bay a pig. I have kicked the idea around of only sight hunting big boars. Rigging Sho Nuff bad dogs picking your trophy say 200lbs plus and sending a  couple to him. Fun ? Yes! Good dogs ? No just tough gritty,mean . You can get them anywhere for cheep it the excesories that cost you the Jack.I know. There are a few of you on here have some that have some smart rough dogs. If so you are fortunate it's what every body want and VERY few have 

Put him on the u.p.s. truck and send him to me I don't like them all night running hogs I try to put at least one rough dog in every pack on the ground, keep him hunt him enjoy him because when your looking for a rough dog you cant find one a smart one that is that's just my opinion and everybody has one  :D ;D

Oh I don't have one like that. They are up there with that 170" whitetail in my book

lmao JAKE been hard headed all his freaking life.that being said his mama wouldnt catch a hog but she would nut the sob.his old grampa caught two hogs in all his eleven years i owned him one at two and one at nine both barr's bout 250.i dont know why that sob is so damn kamakaze but if you aint happy with him i'll trade you a .243 for him lol.i do know them ybmc he comes from are on the rough side but aint none of them rough like he is.that sob'll catch a freight train.

Let's back up a bit... Were talkin about 300-600 yard med range strike find and then catch... only dog on the ground type of dog, don't know where we got help or sight dogs from but I'm talkin bout a one dog show... Yes scarred up and if it's a bad hog he will have to b carried out of the woods most of the time but he won't quit one till he's broke off or cut plum down... Believe it or not I've tied 200+ pound hogs with him alone more than once, I'm over 6' and he's 6" above my knee and averages 100#s he's got the size to hold em and the heart to not quit and before it's brought up, he will stay up with any other dog all day he ain't big and lazy or clumsy... Just one of them dogs there ain't no price tag on, two different guys tried swappin me their trucks for him at one point, I understand most don't like rough dogs and that's ok too lol the reasons are obvious, but rough to me don't mean gritty and all rough dogs are not help dogs or "rcds"  ;D

Kevin he ain't for sale or trade lol... U know that, there are at least 30 of his pups in circulation and all I've had feedback on in the 3 or 4yrs I've owned him have been big rough and hardheaded just like him. B kinda hard to get one shankem but I have a half sister that is bred to him now but most are already spoken for  >:(

Noelle, The dog your talking about cant hunt but when he is not sound. If he spends time out to heal up then he cant hunt.If he keeps getting cut he will end up dead you said earlier you are haveing a hard time getting dogs to live to be one year old. Now I know that is your style cause you been breeding them for 40 years and that is fine with me. But I dont like a good strke and bay dogs to have to deal with getting that close. I said there are some that got enough brains to be rough by that  I mean they can wiegh look at teeth and count how many there are. Then decide how they can stop them with out gettig cut up. Those are the ones you would trade  truck for. I wont trade much of a truck for one thats all scared up and  my not make it home from first hunt. When you her hunters say I got a really good old dog. You very seldom hear them say and they dont make one he cant catch. BTW do run vest on your dogs?Everybody hunts little different I just dont like not bieng able to  go hunt cause dogs are all whacked up. 

i run real rough dogs that are layed up some times but thats what that back up pack is for so i can keep on hunting 

thats the good thing bout havin a dog that will find and catch hogs on its own and not owning help dogs... got 3 more thatll do the same when one is whacked up ;) and to answer your question shep no i dont run vest on them, too hot and they dont maneuver as good, I have put a vest on the old dog a couple times when i was called to bring him to catch a couple dog killers that couldnt be caught... which i caught btw ;D and to clear the record the line I started with is over 40yrs old, i been breedin them 19yrs and i dont consider it my line cuz i started breeding someone lsed line of dogs and kept it goin till my last male died and started using the big male out of k.d.burks stock a few yrs ago which has sum same blood ;)

this particular hog was over 300 and killed some dogs and mangled some more that day and we caught and tied him in a creek with my big dog and my old gyp that was outta mike calloways stock, no catch dog.

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Hey if you can keep them alive.And dont run out of dogs to hunt then you got it going on. I have to go along way to get to my loose bayers.And be pretty sneeky when i do get there. The bad thing is we have been on several bunches of hogs in this hot weather the  dogs get  little off there game and I been sewing them up. Put back guts then a lung. Both on my #1 strike dog that wont catch a baby pig.

Lets see some pictures of the dog with all the scars. I looked through your other post and can't find one. I like to see one you can read all the war storys. Just by one look at them.

Noelle,

Out of curiousity, how old are you?   ???

I like em extremely rough  ;)  I own 3 dogs. The 2 males are all catch & a female that catches first & if it's a rank hog she will back up about 2 inches & bay till another dog gets there. I can take any of the 3 by their self & catch hogs. I like it when i'm hunting solo I just have to handle one dog not 2 or 3.