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This is our 'President' at the Ft. Hood Memorial service,....using his crotch salute,....don't know about y'all, but this is about as shameful as it gets!

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I no longer reference him as the POTUS, I just call him that POS these days...  He is the most anti-American I have ever seen in any official position.

You're right....he's a piece of work now. I was never in the military, I'm a fulltime firefighter, but my Dad was in WWII, I have the utmost respect for the folks in the military that keep us safe here. I cannot fathom any person that calls themselves an American citizen acting in such a manner.....much less the commander-in-chief....and it chaps me to no end.

X3 I was in military, just not a war, and in my day this kind of Anti-American Arrogance would not have been tolerated as it is today by our air-headed youth, illegal aliens,and minorities allowed to vote, while collecting their govt. give aways provided by our taxpayer law abiding citizens. He has displayed this kind of insulting behavior since before he was elected by those wanting to proven they weren't racists, but it seems the majority of voters conjured up by the liberal democrats consists of the groups mentioned above.

Icon to Moron.. 

Sad when you are prior military and immediatly turn the channel when the Commander and Chief comes on.

America got exactly what it asked for.  Maybe on the next election Americans will ask for John Wayne and Jesus. Either or both would do this Country some good right now. 

I bet the people that voted for him feel like real A holes about now boy did he take yall for some suckers and now everybody is paying for it !  Worst damn President in History !  Keep on Taxing ,  Keep on spending that money pretty soon it is gonna be worthless the American Dollar .  Look at the price of Gold what the hell does that tell you it tells you the Dollar aint worth chit right now!

 All these A Holes are bought and paid for need to clean the whole damn house .  I aint voting for nobody that is already in office ,  need to chit can all of em !

Term limits for all of em, public office should not be a lifetime career. The people who elected this clown are not like most of us who visit this board, but I would really like to know who and where they are. I've worked in several states since he was elected and have never had one person I asked admit to voting for him. I didnt vote for him but I'll admit to hoping he would do a good job, those hopes have been shattered.

I want one of those bumper stickers that says:
                          
                       DON'T BLAME ME,...I VOTED FOR THE AMERICAN

another problem is alot of people get mad when there president is not elected, but they didnt vote. everyone needs to vote to make what should happen, happen.

I like this better

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logan 99    u said it best   that is why i voted     all i was doing was voting against him         it is crazy that all those idiots thought he was the next best thing     what the hell     oh and by the way    i heard on the news today it was his birthday today

Is it to much to ask for him to choke on his cake and ice cream?

Nothin the clown could do would suprise me he is a POS for sure.  O0

I told my mother in law that I canceled her vote and she was mad at me for a while. I had to bring him up again about the SS checks. She blamed us Republicans for that too. I truley love her to death but dang.

I would like to put it to test, more like e wager. For all of yaw on the forum that are american citizens, an if those of in another country want to pitch in, please feel free to, america needs all the help we can muster up. How all on the forum write a letter to the p.o.s in D.C. n let him know we dont appriciate him and wish that he step down from his bought elected position. When we r done drafting our letter, then start hitting folks up that aint on the forum but people that feel the same. Im willing to say that less than 25% of the populous will b$&ch about him but yet sit back n do nothing. Use our U. S.  Decleration of Independence as a refrence source as to our rights as american voters. We have the power to remove them, but most(80%+) dont know about it or could mot care either way, except to complain about them politicians that WE still hold the power as voters to remove from office

X2 Charles, well said, this is no P.O.S. is no Pres. he is an arrogant self-annointed DICktator that has to stoop so low to use threats against us taxpaying citizens to get his own way... >:( >:( >:(

X2 they need to look at qualification for the position

I reckon he finally came up with a birth certificate....after how long?

long enough to get a fake one made

Wilton,

I don't know you but I take offense to your banket statement you are making about minorities. I am MEXICAN AMERICAN or I will say I AM AMERICAN...i did not join the armed forces but my father and uncle served during WW2 for almost 5 years. My GGgrandfather was born in Texas and I retired from a major company and paid my taxes and continue to pay taxes as well as I am working in another field.

and for obama getting voted in as president... took a lot more than minority votes to vote him in...matter of fact there were quite a few minorities that did not vote for him.

After George Bush I guess some wanted change... ;D

Reuben,

   I am confused... I am anglo/white... and I thought I was a minority. ;D

Did you vote for Obama?

Circle C, ... X2... another of my favorite bumper stickers...Illegal aliens are not immagrants..They are Criminals

If you never served then you should not salute. I guess dodging the draft is ok, writing a letter for a stay of execution for an illegal alien who raped and killed a young girl is ok. Those are thing bush did. I didn't vote for him but I am tired of hearing people say he is the devil. He isn't. Sure he sucks but so has every other president. Gpd help is if Perry makes it in.

Hippie!

When I moved to Freeport in 1974 there weren't very many hispanics around. Then the 80's rolled around and now we have a taco stand in every corner... ;D

As far as voting for Obama let's just say it was slim pickens all the way around... :( ;)

We need someone that has the big picture for the economy and stock market like RON PAUL...

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X3 circle c, im white, didnt vote that pos in and the white people r the minorities that get nothing but raped by uncle sam to help giv $ to other millions of non white minorities that stay 1 notch above us. As for if u never served u shouldnt have to salute. Well said texas_cur. As a civilian during ceromonirs of that such, you place ur right hand over your heart, well thats if u have 1. If u look at the fat white minority to our right, there left, wow where is his hand placed. That sob should be burried face down, in garbage dump, bc thats were he is running this country. U liberals help get that pos in office n then defend him to tje fullest, all the while he is sinking this used to be fine outstanding country. Makes me want to fly the american flag upside down n hope some 1 comes to the rescue

LOL CHARLES

You gotta be prior military my brotha.

But for the sake of the website I believe we all need to take a step back and put on our armadillo helments cause you know they are probably gpsing our arse as we speak.    :D
And to make sure we are all on the same page (We are all Americans here) We are all immigrants in some form or fashion.  I myself am a Mick potato farmer decendant and Damn proud of it. HAHA.

Let's just all hope there is still an american hero somewhere that will step up to the plate soon.

Where are you John Wayne!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! O0

Yellowblackmask, I am a vet. Spent 13yrs n the army, and litteraly broke my back for them and for a bunch trash in american to help vote that dorry pos into office. I'm not worried if they r tracking my conversation, as a matter of fact i would giv it a 98% chance they are monitoring my vomms, since im in afghanistan. Im with u also, im decendent of them dour kraut eatn piglatin speaking germans, and proud of it, but Im also an AMERICAN, not a german-american, just a plain ole american. There shouldnt be any other country put before america if u claim urself as an american. Aint none of this asian-american, african-american, mexican-american and so on. either ir an american or ur not. The american flag flies above any other country if on american soil, and equal to on highth when on another countries soils, NOT the other way around. This whole im a whatever american aint rite, ur either american or not n if u want to claim that other country before my country, then feel free to pack up n move there. This country used to a country that others looked up to and admired, but now it a country that others n their populas look down upon, laugh at and want to exploit it for everything they can take, and laugh all the way to bank at us. This country used to be where u could dream of something and hav the will power and mindset to achieve ur goals and flurish, but now its a country that instead of flurishing, its more like being flushed, flushed down the #2 pipe. U want to claim to be an american, then claim whole heartedly and help it thrive and flurish, as did the germans, irish, scots, norweigans and thousands of other europeans when they pavk up there entire belongings, got on a boat n headed to america to live out there lives and dreams in harmony. The statue of liberty says ( gives us your tired, hungry, poor and wreak) well its the amercans who are tired, hungry, poor n weak. All thanks to our government and countries who exploite the U.S., until we can get our country and the citizens of our country back on their feet, i say the heck with them.

M. Peitz, if u didnt vote for him and ur not an air-head n in ur youth generation, then how can you take offence to his statement? If the shoe fits, wear it, if it dont, then leave it alone. I will say that you are correct in that the generation before you has just as much blaim on them aswell for those who voted him in. Why are so many people so thin skined now days? You hav to look at yourself and ask yourself, do i fall into the catagory that is being stated, did i do that or am i part of that group? If your not involved with the group being profiled, then why take offence to what is being said? Im NOT calling any1 out, this is a shotgun blast aimed at whoever's foot fits the shoe, and I put myselg in that catagory too on occasions.

X2...Well said Mr. Charles, i couldn't have said it better myself. Thank god there are still some patiotic "Americans" among us, maybe we can still hold on to our beleifs our fore fathers started this great country  on and passed down to us. We must all remind ourselves and remember "It's We the People, not Me the President". Our P.O.S. in command is the latter and intent on driving us toward "Socialism", like Europe, look at the shape their in, do we want to follow that?

I did not vote for obama but the funny thing is I don't know anyone who did... ??? ??? ;D

The law of average should come into play here but it hasn't worked out that way...Like I said earlier...it was slim pickens...only thing I liked about Sara Palin as my vice president was that she was pro gun/pro hunt...

I would like to post a statement from an article that was adopted by our congress in 1776, and modified to fit current situations.
 
When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by there creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, goverments are instituted among men, deriving their powers from the consent of the governed (when has our government done what the governed has ask to be done, without the influence of big corproations with deeps pockets full of money). That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to the ends (meaning the end of our life, liberties and happiness), it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying the foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. When a long train of abuses and usurpation, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them (the governed) under absolute despotism, it is their (the governed) right, it is their (the governed) duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new gaurds for their (the governed) future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies (states); and such is now the necessity which constrains them (the governed) to alter their former systems of government. The history of the present President of the United States, in a short history of repeated injuried and unsurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states.
He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the good of the people, but instead for the better of himself and his fearfull government from the sweat and labor of the governed.

An old boss of mine said this when that coke smuggler Clinton was elected: "America gets what it deserves". I didn't get it at the time but now I do. The USA will continue to devolve and our elected officials become more corrupt because we have an increasingly ignorant and selfish populace. The heyday of the Republic is gone. Gone and dead. As long as we give voting rights to vacuum headed greedy people we will never have a moral government again. The very foundation of our government must change. I think we should only give voting rights to those that have given themselves up to public service and those that have some inherent interest in seeing the Republic flourish. Veterans honorably discharged and property owners.

For us to go back the days of the republic, its gonna take another revolution. With likes that machine 73 spoke about, the Ignorant n selfish populus, will hav to either band together or be wiped out during the countries cleaning of governments. We need to band together n take back our country, if we're to hav a free country. It would require leaders and followers, followers that will do what it takes to win n not quaral with each other when times get tough. It will require loss of life, but it will be an acceptable loss as long as we remain free or atleast freedom for our future generations to look back on and do whats right for the good of the people in whole, not just the small populous of the wealthy to buy their veiws. Something needs to happen to right the wrong ourselfs have allowed our government to do, and do with out the acknowledgement of the country as a whole. We need to take back our control, but to many will sit back and say Not me, i dont wanna die. I perdonaly would rather die a free man or die for freedom, rather than live life as a slave of tyranny. We need to unite as 1, not as a bunch of the few.

if you were not in the military you dont have to salute.  but put your damn hand over your heart.

Its not if you were not in the military, its if you ARE in the military but NOT in uniform is when you dont have to salute, unless at a function that requires the wear of civies and only during reporting to the formation leader and unit commander. FM 7-21.13 governs army customs and courticies and part can be found AR 670-1, which governs wear and appearance while in and out of uniform and what customs are required when out of uniform. But yes, he should atleast put his hand over his heart, if he even has 1

What we really mean is civil war, don't we charles? And I'll freely admit that I'm scared to death of that. Having seen it in Iraq I will unashamedly say I am afraid. I have no answers. I'm no deep thinker. I just know our nation is sick... and our politicians aren't the cause of the sickness... just a symptom. We The People are what's wrong.

sean

I would say the civil war, i would honestly say another revolution, yes you ate right machine. We the people are gonna have to take some of the blaim. A revolution shouldv already takin place, so yes we the people are to blaim. It aint to late to start though, thats if we plan on being free for much longer

Voting rights for land owners, tax payers, honorably discharged military.

If you are on any form of govt assistance, no voting rights....get a job, and get your vote back... Term limits, drug tests for everyone that receives a check from the govt. From welfare recipients all the way up to the potus. You fail, no more checks.

That's my platform.

If you are on any form of govt assistance, no voting rights....get a job, and get your vote back... Term limits, drug tests for everyone that receives a check from the govt. From welfare recipients all the way up to the potus. You fail, no more checks.

That's my platform.
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Circle C

I agree 100%...welfare moms get rewarded for having more children, thus a never ending cycle.

To me the root cause of our problems have to do with greed.

The majority of our politicians serve one term and have one heck of a retirement program. If they had to earn the retirement and not just get it automaticly then this would be a better country.

When major corporations started building plants, factories etc. etc. overseas I saw that as greed for bigger profits but this sold out our country.

The other thing I see is the global competition. How can we compete with third world countries that don't pay their people and don't care about pollution. The company I worked for spent millions if not billions to control pollution. Not only that but a lot of the countries we compete against are right next to the oil and gas producers. The answer to that is for the USA to drill more and slowly phase in a renewable energy source that is feasible and creates jobs.

When we are in a country that has a high standard of living ( AC, 2 or 3 vehicles etc etc)and we compete with a country like China then we are going to have to give up some of these luxuries. I see countries like the US and China like two open top barrels and the US barrel is full of water and the Chinese barrel is empty. The equalizing line is opened and the USA barrel flows into the Chinese barrel. The Chinese are happy and we are PO'ed here in the good ole USA. Our barrel is now half empty and the Chinese barrel is half full...The barrels representing economy/standard of living...

I just hope the Chinese don't get too hungry or greedy....

TO ME THAT IS LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE...and not focusing on a symptom.


He with whom neither slander that gradually soaks into the mind, nor statements that startle like a wound in the flesh, are successful may be called intelligent indeed.
Confucius

well change is what we got an it sucks jmo

Cut aLL forgien aid, unless it is infected with aids, a good eugenics program would be a great start, cull humans harder than we cull dogs is anothr way to cut compitition n over population

Alrighty then

Ill take a lil of what your steppin in on that remark. Culling is my specialty.   >:D

Seems like I remember reading about a fella in the 30's that tried that. Didn't end so well for him.

I used to think over population was a root cause but it is a symtom of greed...More people equals more money for the chosen few...

but that can be delt with thru education...

If we start culling humans like we do our hunting dogs then we would be in trouble... :)a good hog dog is hard to come by... :) lots of culls out there...

10-4 on that...he didn't have the big picture... ;)

Very good point seeing is though I am not in the groups that were profiled I shouldn't have taken offense.  I do too agree that we are all americans, and the sooner we get a "change" the sooner we have "hope" thank you for pointing out what you did, I obviously wasn't using the best logic when I took offense to that statement.

X2

No it didn't. And today's so called "Progressives" have far more in common with the Euro fascist movements of the 30's than they like to admit. American progressives at the time were in love with Mussolini.

What man are yaw refering to from the 30's?

Now really is there any thing left to be said that the picture dosent!!

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_obama_non_salute.htm


  Huh, check your facts. That picture was not from fort hood. He being introduced while hail to the chief is playing.

It doesn't matter where or when it is still a disrespect to our country/people/constitution/freedom,etc.etc.

Wilton, its falling o deaf ears. What can you expect from a lite liberal, but yet still a liberal

Der Chef

AMEN, Ill second that.  It makes me sick to my stomach when I drive down the road in my community and see all these people beyond obese, sitting around, aint/wont strike a lick at nothin, setting at home getting fat as hogs eating steak and shrimp, that I/we paid for.  While me and the wife go and have to be real careful what we buy. Plus have to raise a large garden every year, just to get by.
    I got laid off for 8 months, when the economy fell, and wouldn't have even thought about, getting any assistance, but set down one night and thought, thats what ive been paying for the last 20 yrs, was for times like this.
And 1st time we went to the grocery store we could just buy whatever we wanted all name brand, sweets, whatever. I told my wife, it aint no wonder people wont work, the government is paying them not too.
   If your not disabled you should be require to do some kind of work if your drawing a check. Even if its picking up cans on the side of the rd. Weed eating, just somethin besides laying around gettin fat, then tryin to blame it all on McDonalds .

Who is der chef? I did some diggin n found that even in america, up untill The 60's tried the eugenics program. Her is the link. http://www.sntp.net/eugenics/eugenics_america.htm

Charles, im sure he meant " der fuehrer" Adolf Hitler. Before he went ahead with his plans for the annihilation of the Jews, he oversaw an 11 year experiment to breed the perfect Aryan line. He was inspired and irritated at the belief that American slave holders had produced a genetically superior African through years of not so natural selection. When Cornelius Jackson an American black won his competition, Hitler got up and left the 1936 Olympic games the following day Jesse Owens beat German contenders and Hitler was even more angry. For the remainder of his rein he secretly continued his underground eugenics experiments..... Sorry forthw history lesson, I was obsessed with WW2 history n high school.

Eugenics program...What if your son or daughter were born inferior??? or even your grandbaby? Inferior meaning not meeting the minimum requirements for living or reproduction?

I prefer managing the population thru education and incentives that are totally up to the individual or couple to decide whether it is right for them or not.

I believe we have the technology or could have the technology to cure most diseases but this will not happen because the pharmacutical companies do not want a cure but a treatment and pills for the rest of our lives. Every thing about them is looking for treatments and not a cure...Like we said before...it is about greed...


I agree we need to manage global population but it needs to be in a civilized manner.

Rueben very well said, i agee whole heartedly...X2

Then yaw pay for the continued  birth of welfare babies n mothers yaw so eagerly complain about. U say the people should decide on kids, but yet the only thing they decide is to hav anothr kid, when they cant aford the first, sec, thrd, n so on. Yaw happily complain bout government assited parents and babies, but yet turn n say they should hav a choice. Either poo or get off the dang pot. Ur hold the rest of ur back