EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

http://www.gannett-tv.com/tools/brightcove/playvideo.ashx?sid=wbir&bctid=1108434354001
We had a good turn out, dont know exact number but was standing room only inside the building, and there was hundreds standing outside, all the way around the building looking thru the Windows.
    You can see my youngest daughter at the first of the video, on the far left of screen.
     I was pretty pleased with those on stage that were representing the hunters, they did an outstanding job, of being respectful, but also blunt and to the point, and had facts and documents. I dont think the Twra was prepared for at all, and caused them to do a little back peddling, and studdering. Lol.
        They pretty much said that they didn't care what we thought, they were not gonna change anything, cause it worked in Kansas.
     

i ain't been able to watch the video but i can figure how it went .

thats what you get when you have people with athourity that only have book learnin ... and their bosses are more of the same !


 and we inadvertantly allowed it to happen because we are too busy feeding / raising our kids to be good citezens , working to pay our taxes and trying to mind our own business !

Yep, and that was mentioned too ;D
Maybe I didn't post the link right, you can Google, wbir and go to videos, and look for the hog hunting link.

sorry to hear it keep up the fight againts them college educated idiots

so still no doggin huh? that aint right but it will break sooner or later

tom did you take any of your unemployed hog dogs lol

No hunting period. Except land owners

that aint right  >:(

just wait it will get worse and soon they will ask for help. what do you think the population is there?

Have no idea, neither does twra. My buddy seems to think its all about money.

id give it time then, its what im waitin for up here  :laugh:

it would be a shame if there was hogs running through downtown Nashville one day  >:D

tcolt , that is a heck of an idea !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well I finally got to look at the video....if you look on the news channels website, go to the videos section and search 'hog hunters' and it will come up. There are actually 2 videos about hog hunting, one that I saw said that sport hunting wasn't effective in TN and that was why the TWRA had to change it's approach to the 'problem'. I agree with them that it hasn't done much to change the hog population,...what they, as governmental agencies so often do, failed to tell, was that the hog season in TN was so short that it couldn't possibly be of any of any real use in the effort to reduce the population. I've live in AL but I've hunted in TN for about 35 years and this is not a surprise at all.....watch the video and tell me if you think the gentleman in the suit with TWRA has ever killed a big game animal in his life. The people on the board at TWRA will have to be unseated as soon as possible, for this one reason,....as most people in a position of power that answer to no one so often do,....they have forgotten that they work for the people of the state of Tennessee and they will be fired,....period!

Is it just me or does the reporter at the end say "hunt wild dogs"  ???

You are correct hogdoggintn....he says exactly that.

It truly makes me sick! Most of the people that voted to pass these new laws have probably never saw a wild hog nor the destruction they can cause! Then they use the excuse that it "worked in Kansas"! I have been to Kansas and from what I remember it is nothing like Tennessee!  

You are absolutely right Neal, they kept saying it was open 365 days a yr. But that was still hunting on private land only.
Very limited dog seasons, only couple day hunts here and there.
And the point was made very clear to them that they work for us, and that WE own the wma's and we were coming after there jobs.

And the whole Kansas deal was happend before they got a good foot hold. These hogs in Tn been here a long time.

And i agree that Kansas aint nothin like Tn.  I could see how it worked up there.

tom i reckon you may as well start a hog removal buisness as a front to just hunt land with hogs  O0

I would but theres only 4 county's in which you can run dogs, and all 4 of them are 3 hrs west. And there is too much comp. From the locals, and I just assume that my name wasn't on their list.  ;)

Tom the best way out of this for you TN folks, that I can see, is to torment the legislators that installed these nit-wits until they uninstall them. There are enough of you folks to make them wish they had never put these idiots in that position in the first place. I haven't read the plan that Kansas used so I'm not familiar with it, BUT, if I had to guess I'd say that Kansas stopped all hog hunting as part of this 'plan' to remove hogs.....TN saw this and said "Hey,...we like that idea, we can really stick it to these ****** dog hunters and blame Kansas for cutting their hunting out." For over 35 years I've hunted and fished in TN, and I can say without a doubt that TN is one of the most hunter unfriendly states I've ever been in and that's a real shame.....it's like the TWRA is afraid that you're gojng to catch a limit of trout or actually have a good, productive hunt with dogs. I feel for you folks up there and have for years...good luck my friend.

x s 2 fire medic !  I wonder if they ain't just really wanting them to get good and populated and then charge the hell out of people to hunt them . we didn't used to have turkeys here ,twra moved them in , not just on the wma's but onto private farm land . now they are destroying peoples gardens and scratching around like chikens in peoples yard . i planted 12 acres of my place in corn to pay my ever increasing property taxes and help with the farm payment . the turkeys have torn down 3 rows on the side next to the woods where they nest . yet if i get caught shooting one out of seoson to eat - or a hen anytime i could go to jail longer than i would for drug manufacturing . it costs 600 a acre to put out corn  AND THATS BEFORE IT COMES UP ! now the game wardens we have here now wouldnt do that BECAUSE they grew up in the real world like me . whats gonna happen when they retire and they hire some youg punks that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground ?

    twra have protected and regulated deer hunting so close that they are eating plants off of peoples patios in places . my dad pulled some strings and got a permit to shoot them , they have killed nearly 200 since may, and still on just one 50 acre farm he figures they are gonna cost him 6;000 .

i wonder how much more money they have took in on hunting liscense / tags from out of state since the deer and turkey got over populated ? all at the expense of the taxpaying native tennesseans trying to make a living off the land their daddies and grandaddies left and entrusted to them  !

  something is fundamentally wrong here , my people came in here across the mountains and forded the creeks and rivers , defended their lives against indians outlaws  , the british , the yankees , the carpetbaggers and a whole world of other difficulties , and now the country they helped make is being ruined by lawyers and polticians behind our backs while we are minding our own business !


    hogs are getting closer to my county by the week and when they get here , i won't have to go as far to hunt !

The more I think about it the more im thinkin there is some big money involved somewhere.
Nc just added wild boar on their kill tags and my non resident license jumped $90 to a total of $390.
There are several hog hunting preserves in middle Tn where all this is taking place. And the last couple yrs they have been taxing them bout out of business. I guess twra wants their peace of the pie. Or they are receiving a huge grant of some kind. I just cant understand how, with everything going on and all the cutbacks, that they they can afford to pay private companies and people to do what we are paying to do for them. Just dont add up.

i guess im lucky, up here dont need a tag nor a lisence and its open season

and that is kinda strange though tom, maybe some deeper research could give you some more gasoline for the hunter party fire

Oh, I promise we are filling the gas jug already.

and have you noticed the jump in a private hunt to begin with? its gone up by 200 bucks in one month

I dont look at those much, but during some research the otherday I was looking at one of the more popular, or promoted hunting lodges and bout fell over when I seen the price to kill a hog was like over $800. Who can afford that? I can almost go to tx on that.

These are animal right activist and tree huggers that do not have a clue as to what is right. I have always said that the true hunter is the best animal rights activist as well as the very best game manager and environmentalist. We are the level headed with the common sense... :)

These so called activist do not want any kind of hunting and it really pi$$es me off that a few are telling us what we can and can't do. The time is here when every type of hunter and fisherman need to come together and vote in the right folks that are pro hunt and pro fishermen. The activist are counting on us to divide like deer hunters against dog hunters because that is exactly how they will win and have their way.

If we eat or donate what we hunt then I just can't see it to be anyone's business as long as we have good management programs in place.

These activist that we need to vote out do not have a clue much less any common sense.

A good example here in Texas as a kid the alligators were scarce and we would go swimming in any river or creek and now I can not take my Grand children to these places because of the many gators that are over populated there and they don't have any fear of man. We are now having a chance to get permits but they are very few compared to what really needs to be given out. The gators are at the top of the food chain and need to be managed better than what they are now.

We took our Grand children to a show and tell at one of the TPWMA and they were blaming the hogs for tearing up the migratory bird nests and also eating the baby birds but more than likely the gators are eating the baby birds as they swim in the bays and sloughs.

If these dumb butts had any sense we would harvest more gators so that we could have more water fowl.

BUT THEIR MAIN AGENDA IS TO STOP ALL HUNTING AND FISHING... >:D >:D >:D

I wish you the best Tom and thanks for sharing.

Tom,

I am not trying to hijack your thread but all this is related to what is happening in your state...I just recieved this email ffrom a friend and thought I would post it.

 
 
Recreational Fishing Alliance   
Contact:  Jim Hutchinson, Jr. / 888-564-6732   For Immediate Release
August 17, 2011 

RFA is a group that is fighting for our fishing rights from what I understand.     
 
 
WAL-MART GIVES $36 MILLION TO ANTI-FISHING GROUPS

RFA Says Walton Family Foundation Supports MPA & Catch Share Efforts

 

August 17, 2011 - Wal-Mart announced this week its efforts to help fund the demise of both the recreational and commercial fishing industry while also working to ensure that the next generation of sportsmen will have less access to coastal fish stocks than at any point in U.S. history.
 

In August 16th news release from Wal-Mart corporate headquarters in Bentonville, Arkansas, the Walton Family Foundation announced investments totaling more than $71.8 million awarded to various environmental initiatives in 2010, with over $36 million alone handed over to Marine Conservation grantees including Ocean Conservancy, Conservation International Foundation, Marine Stewardship Council, World Wildlife Fund and Environmental Defense Fund (EDF).

 

According to the release, the Walton Family Foundation "focuses on globally important marine areas and works with grantees and other partners to create networks of effectively managed protected areas that conserve key biological features, and ensure the sustainable utilization of marine resources - especially fisheries - in a way that benefits both nature and people."

 

Scott Burns, former director of marine conservation at World Wildlife Fund and now director of Walton Family Foundation's environmental efforts, said money will go to "protect and conserve natural resources while also recognizing the roles these waters play in the livelihoods of those who live nearby." The Recreational Fishing Alliance (RFA) countered that these specially managed areas of coastal waters are also referred to as marine protected areas or marine reserves, and the end result is denied angler access, of no benefit to the very people whom Wal-Mart claims to benefit.
 
 
 

No problem Reuben, thanks for sharing.
Its funny tho, wall Mart sure dont mind takin your hard earned money to buy hunting and fishing supplies, that they are trying to keep you from using.
   I would say it would be a safe bet they are big supporters of hsus, and PETA too. Im bout to become a Kmart shopper.