EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I've wondered about this, when I get bored I think up random things..

In my experience this has not yet happened but its a big world with lots of other ppl who maybe have had it happen. Here it goes coonhound will slick tree every once in awhile Coon slips out or dog misses. Never had it happen yet with hog dogs but maybe someone has.

Has anyone ever went to a bay and nothing been there? Fences don't count, that's getting stuck not baying.

i have seen a dog bark a couple times at a burnt log in a clearcut and then it figured out what it was and went on about its way, i guess that would be considered trashing?

Seen a dog bay a hog bed once lol other dogs went to her and trailed to the boar she kept baying the boar went back to his bed and that is where we caught him would not believe it but seen the boar before he got back there so know he was not in it when she was baying.  We could not figure it out till all heck broke lose behind us and the hog came busting out of a thicket and ran right back to his bed.

That's funny was it a hound or a cur that based the bed?

She was a pit hound

No not on hogs, but had a hound once bay a hole that was only about 6 inches deep, by the time she was done digging, baying and me laughing the hole was about 2 feet deep and she was wore out  :D

Had a dog bay a pipe coming out the ground one nite in a orange grove, irrelavent but the subject kinda brought the memory back. :)

Its very thiick where we hunt but I expect my dogs to be looking at the hod if they are barking. I've seen young dogs stand outside a briar patch or thicket and bark just because the other dogs were baying. In my opinion that is grounds for culling!

Never seen it on a hog, but around here if a coon goes up a persimmon tree and comes back down, the dogs can't tell that he left, they'll tree like all get out, but there won't be a coon up there, seen this happen many times over the years, don't know exactly why though.....but I got some theories.

Firemedic I had a dig Treed in the same tree almost once a week after five or six times I determined he just liked the tree. I quit shining after the fifth or sixth time. Is just pull him off and cut him again. After a few months I was getting tired of it so I got me a trap but it at the bottom of the tree and caught him in a trap I took him for a hide and dog never Treed there again. I figure it was one smart Coon he had white in the mask. You might have some of them on your hands.

ive cross paths with alot of ghost coons, one minute you have your light on them and you try to get a better postition to see them and then they are gone

Yes sir, seen it plenty of times myself

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Martins midnight major (my once in a lifetime dog) I was 16 he was 2 in the pic RIP

All this ghost Coon talk got me looking at old pics thought I would share.

I used to have a couple dogs out of ole lipper. Wish I knew then, what I know now.

sounds to me like they were bayed LOOSE!!! ;D

No because she went to barking the rest went to her we got up even with her and was waiting for the rest to join in and in a few seconds we see the rest of the dogs cross the road in front of us noses to the ground.  She was still barking here and there and we had got out of the truck and were facing her and the rest of the dogs started up behind us.  She nearly had to be baying the thicket where his bed was is all we can figure.  When the rest of the dogs started up she met them about half way then right back to that thicket.

Maybe she had one bayed in that thicket as well. Maybe when she went to the other bay the one she had bayed in that thicket broke and ran.

I don't think so if she would have had one in there the other dogs would have bayed instead of milling around for a minute then hitting that trail and pretty sure she did not push him out and she did not see it as if so we would have seen him cross the road.  She was young and had only been on a couple hogs so.  My dogs have barked once or twice at a bed but never bayed one lol

I was hunting with some friends and we were having trouble getting to the bay because of how thick the area was that we were hunting.  By the time we got there all the dogs had stopped baying and were just standing around. At first we couldn't figure out what had happened.  Turns out the RCD had drowned the hog in the creek and it had floated down 30-40 yards until it got hung up in some logs.

bobcats will bail from the tree and a lot of dogs will continue to tree, while the bobcat  takes off and gives them the slip.

 " bobcats will bail from the tree and a lot of dogs will continue to tree, while the bobcat  takes off and gives them the slip.  "


A lot dogs never had the bobcat to begin with, cats run up tree's piss and bail and young or unskilled dogs/hunters never figure that out. I've watched an old Cat hunter have to take a long plastic pole he got from some linemen and really thump a bobcat to get him to bail once he was really treed.

I have had young dogs get excited and bay a bedding area or where a smelly boar used to be. Turn loose all the other dogs and nothing happens, or they take off and find it. Go in the brush and it stinks to high heaven of a hog with just the pup baying LOL. I look at it as a learning lesson for the pup, and at least it is hunting and trying. Those pups usually became good dogs with more time and hogs under them.

We took an old dog one night and he left with the others. He bayed by himself and we went to him. He was just standing in one spot baying. I leashed him an took him back to the truck. Next turn out he did the same thing. We went off and left him baying. Hunted about two hours and went back an he's still right there baying. I walked in leashed him and he'll never go hunting with me again.lol

I guess if it was a young dog and it was clearly a bed or hog wallow I wouldn't cull him for coming up short. I wouldn't beat him or shock him the first time either I would walk hunt him and hope he found the hog he smelled. JMO

TNhillbilly both the blanket back and the saddleback walkers in my pics are grandsons of clover on the bottomside. They are belly brothers both made nice hounds. In fact all five dogs in that litter made coonhounds.

I had a cur bay a stump about 150 yards deep in a swamp that was knee deep every step of the way to her. This stump looked so much like a hog that my partner sent 2 catch dogs to it. At least the catch dogs were smarter than us and the bay dog because they ran past it .

Owned a dog named old bill for about a year that would do it. I walked in to him quiet a few times baying a stump or a bed but the hog was gone..
I've also seen a few old dogs do it after they got on up to 11 or 12 years old and could no longer see or hear very good. They really too old to even be hunting but you feel sorry for them and load em up once in awhile anyway...  :)

You could be exactly right....

I like my dogs to check a tree before they lock down. It isn't something you train for just comes with hunting time and I think it might be a genetic trait too. Most of the dogs that we breed tend to circle the tree. Maybe its because they are walkers! But that one Coon pulled the slip on my best dog prolly ten or fifteen times and he was probably 80-85% accurate.