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Title: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: buddylee on September 28, 2011, 07:12:38 pm
Thinking of putting my dane/pit over a dogo. My dane/pit hunts and is straight catch. The dogo catches but has only been hunted loose once. He weighs 90lbs and she is around 70. Any opinions from folks who use RCDs?


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: W-tate on September 28, 2011, 07:15:29 pm
depending on the quality of the female put me down for one O0


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: fonzie on September 28, 2011, 07:17:22 pm
depending on the quality of the female put me down for one O0
Heck me too!!


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: LTHogDogger on September 28, 2011, 07:42:45 pm
depending on the quality of the female put me down for one O0
Me too!!!


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: buddylee on September 28, 2011, 07:43:35 pm
I live in Georgia.


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: SwampHunter on September 28, 2011, 10:06:30 pm
i think a dogoXgrey hound or dogo X stag would be better, if you going with dogo , but you want to find something with a little nose , i wanna bred my pit to a grey hound or stag , he can wind a hog pretty good but  i think if i had somthing with a lil more nose that would be great ,
great danes , i havent seen any that were very fast , they are not near as fast as a grey hound or stag

jmo


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: W-tate on September 28, 2011, 10:10:00 pm
I live in Georgia.
i will pay for the shippin i aint worried about that


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: SCHitemHard on September 28, 2011, 10:18:43 pm
that would sound like a good cross


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: SCHitemHard on September 28, 2011, 10:19:03 pm
that sounds like a good cross  8)


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: buddylee on September 29, 2011, 05:53:00 am
i think a dogoXgrey hound or dogo X stag would be better, if you going with dogo , but you want to find something with a little nose , i wanna bred my pit to a grey hound or stag , he can wind a hog pretty good but  i think if i had somthing with a lil more nose that would be great ,
great danes , i havent seen any that were very fast , they are not near as fast as a grey hound or stag

jmo

My dane/pit has a fairly good nose. I've seen him wind hogs from the road. I'm not worried about speed. I'm looking for power and drive. This breeding is part of a bigger breeding plan.


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: dabutcher on September 29, 2011, 02:55:45 pm
you still have the stagxdogo cross??? or did you get one of the rip pups?? 


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: buddylee on September 29, 2011, 08:30:23 pm
A friend is hunting her on a big plantation. Gonna try talking him into breeding her to stag/Airedale.


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: TColt on October 01, 2011, 05:55:18 am
I think this would be a great cross. If you have a stagXdogo I think it would be even better. You would keep plenty of power with those four breeds and bring more speed to the equation. Most Danes I have seen got some speed but not much agility. Throw it to the stag cross if you can, all the drive and size in the world ain't gonna make a difference if the dog can't catch up to the hog. 

Some Dogos are real fast and some ain't quite got it. How is the Dogo bitch built? 70 lbs, and how tall. What's her confirmation like? Long neck, long legs are a big bonus for this type of dog, makes it easier for the dog to have a clean holding style and steer clear of cutters. Try and put her on some pigs in the open and see what her speed is like.

The way I see it, you need dogs with good speed and good lounge along with the drive. The speed needs to be way up on the list though. The difference in a dog catching a hog before a tree line and five hundred yards into the tree line can be a huge difference in time from caught hog to hog on the ground.

There is alot to consider when doing any kind of breeding. I would keep my goals small and achievable for every breeding, keep as many pups as you can, and cull hard.

How are you planning on using these dogs? Hay fields, woods? I'm really interested in your breeding plans, keep us updated!


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: buddylee on October 01, 2011, 04:06:57 pm
Hunting woods and swamp. I eventually HOPE to produce 75-85 lb athletic, straight catch, hard hunting, winding dogs.


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: TColt on October 02, 2011, 05:56:22 pm
I would go with a straight Dogo or  catdo. Raw Speed won't play as big of a role as agility in those situations. But for sure select the faster dogs from what you have to breed from. Try breeding for a little bit bigger dogs at first (upper end of the size you mentioned) and then line breed to get consistency and bring the size down a bit.


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: dodgegirl on October 05, 2011, 01:04:07 pm
i had a male dogo who weighed in at about 105 pounds and he was one of the best dogs i ever had. till a gator got em, he could run for hours and still have enough energy to hold the hog till we got there. i bred him with my slinder female dogo whos all legs and they turned out some great pups.


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: SouthsFinestFla on October 05, 2011, 08:08:28 pm
Sounds like a good mix to me, in a year or so ill be lookin for a female to breed to me pit/ridge/fla cur. He's got a big block head can wind and run all night oh yea and he hits like a freight train. He's all legs, and weighs 84lbs hunting. I would go for it if they are both proven .


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: Florida Curdog on October 05, 2011, 08:26:39 pm
It don't take a very big dog.


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: buddylee on October 06, 2011, 10:37:57 am
No it don't but everyone has their idea of the perfect dog.


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: Anthonys on October 06, 2011, 11:39:23 pm
Were u in ga , I'm in sc hunt in Brunswick


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: SCHitemHard on October 06, 2011, 11:44:16 pm
ive hunted GA a good bit, all over SC too

i ran pit/cur crosses and a dogo/pit cross with some babbling hounds out front

i would love to have sometin that a pit/greyhound/dane type dog, good luck with the breeding


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: dan on October 07, 2011, 12:26:05 pm
Thinking of putting my dane/pit over a dogo. My dane/pit hunts and is straight catch. The dogo catches but has only been hunted loose once. He weighs 90lbs and she is around 70. Any opinions from folks who use RCDs?

As always, when breeding dogs the only thing you are sure to get, is puppies.   ;)

The best chance will be proven hunter/catcher bred to proven hunter/catcher.     

I like to be able to hunt my catch dogs alone if need be.  I would prove both by hunting them loose and alone, before breeding.  Just catching doesn't make a running catch dog. 


Title: Re: RCD or one out breeding idea
Post by: buddylee on October 07, 2011, 02:51:44 pm
Getting her tomorrow. Hunting her next weekend.