EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

was just wondering who all had cds that catch on the jaw... i've got a bulldog who seems to love that jaw... i thought after a few big pigs he might learn to go for the ear but no such luck... he's handled every pig he's been on but i've just always been an ear guy and ain't quite sure what to think yet... though his style is growing on me...any input on how you feel about catchign on the jaw would be appreciated

mike

I have a AB that catches snout. He allways graps the whole snout some times snout and front leg lol. Done great for me once he has it it's over he has full control. He's caught few big ones  and can make them do what ever he wants. But was the same as you bout ears. But it is wearing on me.

I prefer they catch on the ear but as long as he grabs on the snout and stays caught I wouldnt care.I had a CD that would only catch the front legs which I didnt like but he never let one go so he stayed with me until he died last month of natural causes.

Had a bulldog that always 100% caught on the snout.  He sure had the pig full attention when he got caught.  That was also the reason he died young. 

i train my catch dog for the ear and jaw but not the snout . I dont like a cd that will only catch the ear becuase i have seen ear dogs lost when they get there and the other dogs have both ears cought .

long live lefty the jaw dog! Lol. After that last tusker i think he could catch a grizzly. Talked ta a couple fellers n they claim the jaw is better cause ears rip out. If u want let me kno n i.ll make some calls ta look for an eardog. I would trade u for a ridgeback but she left for cattle work. Jk.lol.

I got an AB that since day one has always caught on the jaw. he has never ever caught any where else. Now with that said, he caught hogs for us for 3 years and never not one time got cut . IMO, it is just hard for a hog to cut a dog on his jaw, the dog has way more control over the hog. Now I said he caught for 3 years, he is now retired due to the fact, IMO, because he caught on the jaw. you see if a dog catches on the ear, and he is hard caught like most good catch dogs and a big hog, lets say runs him into a tree face first trying to drag him off, most of the time the worst case is the ear will rip out and the  dog has to recatch.  Well Diesl (CD) caught a 275lb black barr hog on the jaw. to make matters worse we turned him loose at about 20 yards looking at the hog but just as he got there the hog tried to break but as the hog broke Diesl caught the hog on the jaw in a run and the barr ran him into a pine face first and it pulled both of his upper canine teeth out, well they were both pointing straight ahead . The vet put them back in , but it is hard to trust them any more so now he is a family pet and stud dog, who gets to eat good and chase critters around the yard. so like always there is pros and cons with every catch dog and how he catches. but IMO,  if useing one catch dog the dog has more control over the hog on the jaw, but like we all know in certain situations every dog gets a curve ball thrown at them and we just thank God for the three years we got to enjoy watching him work.

ear snout jaw as long as they are on the head its fine with me

My pit catches on the snout and I really dont like it.  Teo weeks ago he caught a big sow and litterally broke her snout.  By the time I got him off the hog, her nose was hanging down about her chin.  We had to kill the sow and I wish we could have spared her. 

ive had 3 that would catch them, my rednose, my ab and my dogo/pit would catch nose or front leg

i have a pit cur cross puppy that has helped the bulldog catch three hogs and all three he grabbed the back of the neck, is this good/bad or indifferent?

Had a couple, nothing wrong with it, holds better honestly but you may end up sticking more then you hobble. I stick all of mine unless I need one to train with but that's just me. I know a lot of people on here like to hobble em. At least they're getting money for the hog. My dogs are all way to rough to keep one in good condition for long

I'm new to hog dogging but we've stuck them all. I've got a freeze full of wild hog. But I guess if we caught one worth selling we would.

thanks for the input... i think i can live with the jaw but dang i sure would think a dog could get cut up pretty good if they're catching up on the snout

I know of a pit that catches on the snout alot... seems to have taken a good beating several times under the chin...

boar bibs should be thought of  ;), i think jaw catchers handle the pig better

What brand of bib are you refering to?? have you tried a boar bib on a jaw catching dog??

Have any of you guys had a set of pits that caught on the same front leg every time??  I had 2 seemed like the white one was always on the left leg and the other pit was on the right for almost every hog we caught for a while, rattle snake killed the left leg dog down at the ranch going to a bayed hog, he crawled thru the brush tunnel and i heard him yelp a bit, he made it to the hog bay and caught, we stuck the hog and the noise died down, somebody coming from the truck said omg there is a rattler 30 feet from u in th emiddle of the tunnel, dog died as we were 60 miles from a vet, after a while i could see the  bloodied fang marks on his white side, his name was ol spot, sure missed him for 30 years every time we drive to the ranch oak mott where he got it......  I was always worried when we got a nose catcher, like u guys says, they get that tusk right in the jugualr vein from hog slinging up and down if you got no catch dog help, seemed like ear latchers were about the same, i think the pits we had that lived th elongest were leg catchers but who know, it might just be luck of the tusk running out...

Id like to see some pics of those dogs on a hog... Ive only seen that happen once with 2 pits, and it wasnt very pretty...
The hog didnt have alot of size to it, but they still didnt seem to control it very well along with leaving the hogs head free to thrash...

Did you ever have those dogs catch a hog that was backed into a hole/brush??  I would be curious to know how they would go about catching it...

i had a a. b. that caught on the leg or jaw not much control on the leg give him to a guy i was fixen to cull him anyway.if ur knife hunting not to big of a deal if ur tying to sell tears them up to much. its kinda cool how a catch dog gets their spot and thats where they catch ,left,right side ear or where ever. my thoughts. man im ready for deer season to end. tired of piggin on the net.

If the head is taken I have one or two that will do it but other then that it is a no no. The hog can turn into a pig at will and leave you with a heavy vet bill or dead dog.

  I dont remeber really, when i had this pack i was just starting out, had a german shepard/pit mix that was always fighting head to head with the hog while the pits were on the legs, also had a grade yellow town dog that was nutting bad boars at the same time if he was walking with the pits on his head, think they was a runnin walker/pitbull in this pack that caught anywhwere,  had a yellow brindle and red blackmouth cur and yellow east texas cur in this pack, this pack stayed completed cut down that summer, had no dog power with all of them butchered up and dring them every day when i came home at lunch and supper with meds and water hose cleaning, this summer made me go to all curs that bayed as i was tired of vet bills and being cut down in middle of grain season, this was the early 80s when the hogs were really exploding down here from 4 countys plaining row to row corn and milo for years straight and it was raining regualrly, we were catching tame type pigs 50 50 with the blacker  non tusked up ones at this time, lots of boars 200 pounds to 300 regularly, now days all i ever see at the ranch seems like are sows and tons of small boars, all black not much teeth and a sprinking of red spotted once in a while, I thought at one time the russian types were going to take over but they disapeared seems like and blackies took over, thats why we always wanted to get up 59 quite a bit to find some of those dog killas with teeth that ran like deers around powerhorn seadrift and north east refugio county by the refuge, they were 1/2 the size and 5 times the runner for sure but 3 times the teeth seemed like, i think somehow the dna got mixed up and created a superreproducer not really a better hog but one who outbred the wilder feral hogs and thus moved the older russian types out of the gene poll, least in my area, thats what i see, my freind has a hog plant close to me and he is older and remebers when lots of tusked hogs came in with color, its rare now down here to see 300 hog with teeth, i just dont get it really, there is so much less planted now here is not funny, they living off of bottom of what ever is left after this drought, they cant even second harvest cow scat down here right now as most of the cows have been shipped for a year or more, dryest year in my life of 60 years down here and more hogs than ever go figurelol

ive never had a bought bib but my old man made me one that was leather and firehose that we would slip over the dog like a shirt and it hung down just infront of his legs. his range of motion wasnt hindered but i never really got to test it on a mean boar

Yep every one has said the same I have seen with my cd.  Catches jaw or snout and gets his chin tore up. The few good hogs he has caught there he has held well and he don't let go but it is kinda annoying.  His juggler always worries me.   

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I would just be prepaired to get an ear dog.  Ive had CD's catch everywhere and IMO i prefer them to catch only on the ear.  On the ear they can spin with them not very often do they get turned around on the opisit side of the boar to be trashed around on.  I very seldem have a dog cut down once he is on the ear.