EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

The drama on here is getting old from know on if anybody gets in an argument I think they  should have to let the dogs settle it meaning head to head one mans dogs vs.  the other mans most hogs win that would sure get ride of all the fake hunters what do yall think

I think that you might be in for a rude awakening. ;)

What drama or you referring to Critter ? I think the site is working fine. Seems to me for the Most part everyone gets along. There is a lot of the same questions asked by newbies but I think that is one reason for the site, a place where people can come to learn. A post like the one you made wanting to put one mans dog up against another, well I think that just creates drama.

What does having better dogs than the next guy prove.  Some guys have more money than sense, So who is the better hunter, the guy buying finished dogs or the hunter starting out with nothing and workin his way up?  Something to think about it.

Personally I hog hunt because I enjoy it, once I start doing it to prove something to someone, well I'll let my dogs sit on the end of a chain before that happens just on principle alone. 

i think anybody would be sore if they lost to a unicorn rolleyes

Whats a fake hunter?

According to websters dictionary a fake hunter is a person who obtains a dog box in his pickup but a gun rack that has two fishin poles in it. LOL JK :angel:

 Im sure he is refering to internet hunters. those that come on here and other forums and talk a good game, but have little or no chance (not refering to cward) of actually backing what he/she says bout their real or made up dogs. i dont know if this where he is goin with this topic, but i think this is what he is talk ing about.

now, i feel bout the same as the others with their replys. its not gonna prove much at all. if i get my a$$ smoked in a hunt contest, then so be it. that would so me where i need to improve, but i know my dogs aint the greatest, so i would be fool to even try it.
if a person buys his/her way to exellent dogs, then so be it, and if they like said before, start from scratch and build up, then so be it. if i had the money i would rather buy already finished dogs and adjust my hunting style to the dogs, but im left to start from scratch and work my way up, even though several of my dogs cost a pretty penny bc of the bloodline nad i couldv used that the same money to buy already finished dogs instead of pups. i got culls, but they are my culls.

Yes charlies u nailed on the head I aint sayin I have the best dogs cuz I dont but I am sayin there is alot of people that dont even hunt pittin there two sence in and alot of people who they are

Sometimes your dogs are only as good as the places you have to go......

Very true Underdog!

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Yup if there no hogs to be caught dogs can't catch none if you got tons of hogs it don't take much of a dog to catch one

That's exactly what I was thinking when I made my initial post about having a rude awakening in a competition... The property is the deciding factor.

X 3... Shhh don't tell everyone that, prolly the only reason we do well in comps.. You have tO have enough land to have your dogs legged up and ready to go but you still have to have the honey hole to hunt!!

We have certain ranches set aside for comps and they don't get touched til that weekend

Exactly..

If you gonna competition hunt, hunt at least 3 different days where there aren't many hogs. Hunting a place that looks like a hog zoo will prove nothing. A hogdog is SUPPOSED to look like a million bucks somewhere like that..

I agree with that statement if your having a friendly competition between your hunting buddies to see who has the best dogs and so on... but if you are paying $$$ to enter a competitiOn where you don't even know 95% of the other people why should you make it hard on yourself to hunt places with scattered hogs!?

The point of a competition is to WIN, if you arnt smart enough to keep properties set aside for it then that's on your team. You still have to bring in the more hogs and the bigger than the rest of the field, regardless of how good the place is you hunt

Man I don't hog hunt for compentition not to have better dogs than the next guy I just hog hunt for fun if my dogs will go out and bay me up a pig well I'm happy I just like to catch pigs not compete with every one on here

very true...ive seen great dogs catch 1 hog on hard hunted places and a pile of hogs on private ranches so the property u hunt can make dogs look good and bad?

crittercatcher90, about what year were you born?

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Well if you wanted me to bring a dog or two over all you had to do was ask ;D The cast comes off my arm in a few weeks.

I agree, Crittercatcher90 that is a pretty good idea. I'd like to go on a little friendly hunt with you sometime.

It has everything to do with the amount of hogs on the property you hunt.

But more importantly, who cares if your dogs are better than someone else's?  
Do they catch you hogs?  Do you enjoy hunting behind them?  If so, then F all the c0ck measuring and go hunt.  

*LIKE*

I have competition hunted beagles for rabbits, hounds for coon and curs for coon and squirrel from Tx,Ok and La. and to do well in any of them comps you HAD to have a top dog were ever you dropped it period... I have seen many of the home town hero dogs who were promoted and hyped but never hunted any further than there own back yard if you will get dropped in a different place,terrain and suck horribly....got to there place and they could give you a run for your money. I was fortunate to have a top dogs in these venus in that I could usually place or win no matter were I went but that is not all that easy. In reallity most folks (in general don't get anyones panties in a knot) don't know or have never had or hunted with one of them dogs that no matter were you drop it it will produce and do it with style.

alright guys take it easy on the young man..yes he spouted off when he shouldn't have but he's young and learning.
and it doesn't help when the Mods start in, then the buzzards think it's free range and pick the bones clean..

crittercatcher90 you're not going to my spots so if you're going to challenge somebody..then find a mutual location..

I'll leave my potlickers at home, but I'd like to buy the Calcutta on got2catchem & "bumm" ;D

TShelly, I'm not talking about an open competition where anybody can pay to enter. That only proves who has the better place to hunt..
I mean a competition between 2 people to find out who has the better dog.

Ive always been reassured that its not the size of the boat, as it is more of the motion of the ocean... ;D

Circle C
 I like your idea, we should add a "LIkE" and "Don't Like" button on the site
Then we can have a competiton on who can get the most "likes" on a post

Absolutely makes sense! We were talking about 2 different competitions and situations.. I was referring to paid comps the whole time

I was born in 90 I am 21 what does my age have to do with anything and to the guys that said they want to hunt pm me and I would be glad to hunt with you and some of the post on here prove my point drama I was talkin bout people that just on the internet and dont hunt and people want to get there pantys in a bunch all I ment was dont talk number 2 if u hunt let what u ur dogs do the talkin

Tshelley that what critter90 was talking about too but the measuring tape came out and zippers dropped, then buzzards started circling. That's one reason we as hunters will be viewed as dumb rednecks, that high mentality...o yeah..o yeah well. Blah blah blah..

can i bring my henry dog?  :P

LOL it happens, especially this time of year!! Everyone is Primed ready for deer season to end and the tail gates to drop. No worries, some people take criticism better than others and some don't. In the end cooler heads will prevail and everyone will go back to catching hogs :p

For the non-night hunters ETHD is our only fix during deer season

To touch on what Underdog said, I personally don't see anything wrong with head to head hunting as long as it’s done in a civil and professional manner.

Not everyone is cut out for it. That’s why some coon hunters classify themselves as pleasure hunters and others lean more towards competition hunter.  Also some dogs are sold as pleasure hunting dogs and others sold as competition dogs. I could see individuals losing their tempers, but head to head comps are done with every other type of dog hunting. Why not hog dogs?

I don't know anyone that hunts with allot of people, who's ever had a dog that hasn't been struck over some time or other. The key I think is having dogs that can be consistent and always compete / produce.

Eventually names are made and when people draw / hunt / compete with certain competitors they know that they are going to have a run for their money.

Every dog has its day and good dogs are where you find them.

I was just curious.....

I am also curious as to whom you think on this thread or the previous hasn't caught their fair share of hogs?

I agree with Mr. Skinner and several others, I enjoy hunting for so many reasons that have nothing to do with being competitive.

Arent u suppose to be the law on here and ur startin number 2

Now we have a mod stirring the pot..y'all are talking one on one comps that's fine so what style do y'all think we should go with casting, walking, roading, hood or ground. I have seen personally long range hound curs run right pass hogs and we walk my short range cur by there and they hit track. I know for a fact my places and others places where covered with hogs. I've seen loose dogs chase a single hog all night and gritty dogs haul in several hogs in a couple hours. I've seen loose dogs bay up quick over and over and over then loose the hog and I've seen gritty dogs bay up get cut and the hunts over after one hog.. My point is a hunt is a hunt and there is always a any given Sunday in hog hunting. I own potlickers myself and we never caught anything more than shoats but they are my potlickers and I know how to hunt them and it dam sure is enjoyable.

Looks like a man being curious and stating an opinion about enjoying a hunt without competition.  I don't see anybody "stirring the pot"

cant we all just go hunting,and dont worry about what others are doing or thinking. guys just get yur wife or girlfriend to squeal once and you will be fine.lol

There's nothing worse than two guys arguing about who's dog barked first.  Those guys usually don't get invited back.

Hahahaha thats funny right there

*LIKE*

I really don't see Matt as stirring the pot, I thought it to be a legit question for him as he didn't know....Matt ain't really one for being a smart azz.

I think think the question as to who was being refered to in the other thread was because jr was arguing with someone who catches plenty of hogs and is pretty well likes around although I don't know him personally.

The thing is Ccatcherjr,y'all been catching a good amount of hogs recently and some nice ones as well and doing it with your own dogs (you and your pops) that's sure something to be proud of no doubt but be humble man as with all the good will come the bad as well so enjoy the good times, get read for the bad and relax...its just dogs. Hopefully you'll have more good than bad and as you get older you'll realize everything don't have to be a fight nor will you feel like fooling with the little crap that in the end don't really matter anyhow.

Where the hell do you so one of Matt's posts starting $hit???

The only drama I see is a disrespectful youngster that just started who seems to have the "know it all syndrome".

Anyone else who wants to come on here and accuse my mods or admins of starting $hit... I'll be happy to show you to the door.

The more of this thread i read, the more my head hurts. I'm gonna have a beer and see if it makes more sense. It's rare that I've seen any hoo-ha goin on at this board. It's moderated well and everyone gets along and picks at one another  but has a good time. I must of missed the post where the moderaters where starting anything,,, that's why i enjoy this board, hell, it's fun.

Again, just curious. Wasn't trying to piss anyone off. I just didnt see anyone contributing to the convo that spoke above their experience level and I read in a post you made that there were members here doing that.
Happy Hunting
Matt

Mike I'm not trying to start any trouble the boy isn't my son just a young man I'm helping but obviously he has a big mouth. He's a good kid, I just didn't want to see him get hammered like he was. There are several egos on every hunting site and his got away from him. He will learn when to keep his mouth shut and eyes open...hopefully.

crittercatcher90,

If your looking for a little competition contact Southetexasdogger he is just down the street from you.
If you really want to see how good your dogs are put them up against his.
FYI-You better have some great dogs because he has a Kennel full of Super nice dogs.
Id really like to see that one.

Not trying to be an azz, looks like your wanting a little comp to me.

I think it is kind of funny myself. I have been putting my foot in my mouth my whole life. Now I just try to stop chewing when I put my foot in my mouth. I think he is just the victim of poor word choice. I have talked to him and he seemed alright to me. I want to know one man that has not put his foot in his mouth. But it is what happens after the foot is in mouth that teaches us something. Well being 21 don't say much about being able to hunt. But I bet you ain't had the whoop'ns that can come after the yippen yet. I got thick skin for the most part. Don't think I am upset at all and don't think I think anything bad about you. Just know you stuck your foot in your mouth and learn from it. Don't get upset because everyone does it. I'll shoot you a PM and just tag my crippled self along. I still have one good hand. Keep your chin up and a smile on your face. That is what my grandpa would say.

WOW!!! Lets start off with the facts,,,,they have competitions all over the state to Prove your dogs, they have a topic on this board of "Dogs on Hogs" to PROVE  your dogs, they even have a "2011 Most Hogs" topic on this board for you to post of the amount of hogs your dogs have PROVEN to catch! The moderators on this board are PROVEN hog hunters and know a hell of alot more from 60 or so post on here to the 2000 plus post they have. They have already PROVEN there dogs, hogs,. A one on one competition of dogs on dogs is simply calling one out to a fight! Why do that? Your dogs are only as good as you think they are, brag on them, show us pictures, show us videos, post the stories of how good your dogs are, BUT don't start running down or challenging anyone's else's dogs on the board unless you know them personally. The topic "Let the dogs settle it" sounds like we are fighting dogs instead of Hunting! WTH?

I love to hog hunt,,,with my dogs,,,,with your dogs,,,,with whoeveer's dogs,,,,I LOVE TO HOG HUNT. In the end it is not about the dog, hog, it is about the friends and family you have to share all that with. 

Katchum,

  You nailed it.
I as well as most seasoned hunters are in it for the fellowship and enjoy working dogs.

I learned a long time ago that no matter how good I think my dogs are Im constantly trying to improve them.
I know a couple of great dog men IMO and strive to produce dogs like them.

Usually for me when I bragg on my dogs or take someone that I really think I want to impress I get let down by a bad night or dogs just not doing it for me that hunt.

Crittercatcher90- When I was your age I believed I was the baddest dude around IMO I could not have my azz beat by anyone.
I soon learned when I went to college one night in the iron man contest a 170# average joe knocked my azz out in front of the whole bar.(Mike-You know him)Funky coal medina. ;D
I soon learned after that night he owns a Karate school down the street and I had a new prospective towards my badazz attidude.

My point is when you quit learing and you think you have it all figured out its over for you.
Always keep your ears open and learn everything you can. Im in my 40's and when I go hunting with my mentors I learn something everytime.

Yes sir, thanks Kessling Kennels I have had my $ss wooped a whole lot more than I have wooped $ss, LOL. I was one of them show me how big a boy are ya also. LOL.

As far as my dogs,,,,,I have got some dang good Pot Likin, INBREED, OUTBREED, SOMEBREED, heck I think I tried to BREED a few of em,,,,,LOL,,,,,they can find a hog in the middle of down town Houston except for one morning they hunted for a while when all of a sudden they backed up and $HIT one just so they could have one to chase,,,,,,Bay HOgs,,,,,Find Hogs,,,,Heck,,OLD ROOKIE can even skin one,,,,,,Has a heck of a time cutting him up but can clean the smoke house out,,,,,LOL...Heck I have even had an old Chewawa/Pit cross that can drag a 300#der!!!!!! I got one dog that if I come out of the house with my shotgun, he will start looking for squirrels,,,,if I come out of the house with my fishing pole, he will run around back and start diggin worms,,,,,OH and by the way that old Chewawa/Pit cross caught a 2000# bull and put him in the trailer,,,,,all I did was shut the gate,,,,,,,LOL,,,,heck if you can't laugh and lie about your dogs,,,,,YOU AIN'T GOT NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO ;D

Thats the kind of stories you expect to here while sippin whiskey and sittin around the camp fire talkin crap about who's is bigger.

  I would bet that was in Huntsville tx

Yep Huntsville it was.

After that we became friends and did some bowfishing around Riverside.

Caught a couple lizzards and released in Bells Camp on ladies night.
Gave a few Airboat rides for the intoxicated ladies on the river ;D ;D

Damn I miss those days ;D
No responsibilities ;D
We just hunted,fished,and chased them pretty girls.

I just wanted to let all the people I offened know that did not mean it how it came out and I had a bad day and am sorry for the disrespect I showed I have alot to learn from the older hunters and would be happy to take any advise sorry for the disrespect

You didn't affend me and it takes a heck of a man to apoligize.

There is alot of Old School folks on here that really know what they are saying.
You can never put a price on all the knowledge these seasoned doggers can share with you but they demand respect.
Respect is the backbone of every good man I know.
If you respect and appreciate what they can do for you,You will never have trouble going back to them for help.
If you burn that bridge they would'nt piss on you if you were on fire.

Im in my 40's and from time to time I will go spend the weekend hunting and riding around with  a friend and fellow dogger that  I look up to and has a ton of knowledge about doggin.
Most of the time I can work out the problems Im having with my dogs.
Again he will help anyone thats willing to learn with respect,Disrespect him and he will show you the gate.