EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Im looking to try and start a non hunting line dog. Other than culling is there any tips or hints. Percentage ratio on succes and what not.

non hunting line??? don't really need to start one...there are plenty out there...

im confused  ??? go get you a number 2zu or something

Sorry i need to clarify its not from a hoghunting line

Heck just the other day i saw an add in the paper for pikanumber 2z 1/2pikaneese1/2 number 2zu and was asking 300 a pup im just waiting to see what they come up with next lol

Thanks for all the help yall were awesome

Don't breed anything till it proves it self, that's about all the advice you need as of right now.

Ok sorry but why breed a dog that doesn't hunt what's the reasoning and so me and others can give you better info what breed and what are you trying to accomplish a little info would be helpful

I have a weimi but hes not from a hog hunting line so im not breeding. I just want to know his chances.

There isn't a way to accurately forecasts an unknown lineage dog.  Your just gonna have to throw him on the mix and find out bud. Even well established lines its just a well educated prediction on how they will turn out. The woods will ultimately answer all your questions. Good luck with him.

X2! good post miles.

x2...if he is built right and looks right then at least you know he has a chance to have agility and possibly some stamina. I have heard of a few that made hog dogs and have seen some that were crossed with cur that did pretty good.

Thanks guys. I guess u could call me untraditional. Getn away from a proven line of dogs.

Personally, id call that setting yourself up for failure. JMO

I agree, just because a few might make a hog dog does not mean that a high percentage will...I would say the odds are against it...

They were bred for boar and bird but the majority here in the states are bred for the show ring or for pets with no consideration for the hunting instincts...

So if he works out its more the exception than a rule Ive heard they are more of a bird dog now but ive seen "junk" dogs do great things. I guess i should of looked up training v. Hunting line topic first.

According to your profile and previous post, you are buddies with a "dog trainer" ....
I say breed away and then let your buddy do the training...  ;)

Let us know how they work out for you...

People pick dogs up off the street with 'unproven lines'  and try em out on pigs personally I don't think your settin yourself up for failure. Just try it and if it works great. Only one way to find out if he'll work or not. just throw him in a pen and see what he does. You may be surprised

Ive trained akc walker and blus for coon huntn so The only reason i havent.tried it with coon dogs is cause u usually have to have papers to hunt most tournements and im looking at some different dogs other than the ordinary just to try them.

aint no need in trying to reinvent the wheel  ;) ;)

i can't " train " a dog to do a damn thing . all i can do is let him do what he's bred for and refine on that .

The dog may do great, but the chances of finding a dog that is of the same caliber is gonna be against you.  The dog also may not reproduce himself well and you just spent alot of time and money on nothing.  Lots of people talk about starting lines but few truly know what it takes. It takes lots of time, patience and money because you'll be keeping a lot of puppies to cull through. Not to mention you might get 4-5 years down the road and realize this ain't what you had in mind regarding how the dogs are turning out vs the cull ratio, then your back to square one. 

In the end it boils down to what you want and how hard you're wanting to work for it. 

x2...not only the above mentioned but there won't be many if any bloodlines out there for that matter...bloodlines out  of the breed you are using to breed up a line of hog dogs...lets say you breed labradors for hogs and you need new blood to freshen up your line and then you will find that you are the only breeder of labs for hogs... this means you would need quite a few dogs in the yard to develop a good line...if you were breeding BMC's it wouldn't be a problem...you would only have to decide which strain to use...