EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I'll try to keep this short.

I dont understand or agree with the hunters that are sticking hogs or just cutting heads of boars.  I would not classify myself as an "old timer", but I was trained by some "old timers".  Boars were made barrs and sows were left alone.  If we did/do catch hogs, they are caught alive and tied or hobbled.  Once all the dogs are caught and tied, we take the hog to the truck/4-wheeler or we bring the truck/4-wheeler to the hog alive.  If we are going to eat the hog, we take the hog home alive and them do the deed.  Maybe it is just a new breed of hunters or maybe people want to see hog sticking on you-tube.  Me persoanlly, I dont think it is cool to see some guy running in and sticking a hog before the hog is tied.   I know what the laws say about transporting live hogs, and the laws are different in different places.  I'm just saying I dont agree with it and I really dont care to see it.

Don't watch the videos!

lol, i see both sides as usual, from my perspective, i'd like to see the meat come to me so I could bbq it up, or a needy family, but I also realize that the coyotes, turkey vultures, and so many more creatures will eat it as well.


EVERYTHING IS NATURE.  ALL IS NATURAL.  including the trucks and cars that consume oil that pollute the air, we are as are all of our polluting toxic spawn naturale.

Where's that smiley eating popcorn? Subscribed.  rolleyes

well i stick every hog i catch becouse some of the places i hunt if the land owner catches me leaveing with live hogs ill get run off .  SO THEY ALL DIE

I used to turn em all loose and cut boars but they are out of control wher I live. So I started killin every hog I catc.h. They have messed up to many deer seasons for me.

If you can drag em out alive its all good but sometimes you just have to stickem (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-violent005.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

You said you don't want to see someone stick a hog before it was tied why would you tie a hog then stick it don't make much sense to me but does it really matter how or when the hog is dispatched and if it's not for you then don't watch the videos or hunt with people that stick hogs simple enough

----Ok, that kind of thinking is exactly how the hog population got out of control in the first place. I don't think I'll be letting any sows go so they can have 6 or more pigletts at a time, tear up my land again, and make this OVERPOPULATION any worse. (p.s. in case you havent heard hogs are overpopulated... simple fact) 

 

It takes more skill and more work to bring the pigs out alive, NO DOUBT.  perhaps not always more skill, but definitley mre work which allows for fresh meat to reach more people.
so i definitely have more respect, and for motherforkingassuredly more respect si due to the dudes who bring and deliver the porker alive.


being a killer is easy.  but giving life takes more work.

it also depends on the local pig population, one of my propeties has number 2 loads of pigs, and the other has zero.

 Sometimes we catch and hobble and sometimes we stick them. But if we ever catch a hog and turn it loose, we will loose our hunting place. The deal we made with the land owner is to help eliminate the hogs. We can take a hog off of the property alive only if we want to butcher it or give it to someone to eat. Honestly I cant afford to keep and feed all of the hogs we catch. 

How do you feel about bay and shoot. Most people will get kicked off their places if they turn hogs out after catchin them. I pretty much take everything out alive now mainly because I need the money, but I had never even heard of a cd till about six years ago. Everything I knew was bay and shoot and it was simply to keep hogs run out of the area in a way we enjoyed.

not being rude however

a pig sticker has saved a many of dogs ive hunted behind for as long as i cemember what happens when you got a bad hog bayed and several dogs hanging off ears,legs, anywhere they can and your not able to throw a rope or get a shot off? a knife has always been handy for me id much rather carry out a stuck hog from 600 yards versus carrying a live hog any day of the week!! that double edged blade has saved dogs ive ran quite a few times, there my hunting partners and ill do anything to keep them protected just my opinion.

We stick a lot and we tie some and try to make this thing pay for itself when we can but that dont happen all the time because some of the places we hunt with the gulleys so bad you cant get the wheeler in to were the hog is and I myself aint draggin no hog 1/4 1/2 mile my draggin-packin days are over and other times you got fences  to cross cant get a wheeler in there.  Another reason is the people we hunt for you get caught turning one loose and you are threw and word spreads like wildfire to other farmers and ranchers.  The ones we do stick we most the time try to take the back straps and a ham are two when we can .  Hey the buzzards and other wild life gotta eat to .  lol

First, for me, we video to be able to watch the dogs work because it happens pretty fast out there. It's good to be able to look back and see/hear who was there first, or what dog was doing what. It’s not always the easiest thing to do out there on every hunt either, so it’s cool when you can get it on vid. Secondly, there are some other people who like to see how others hunt, and their progression.  We hobble hogs and take ‘em out alive, but we also stick em. For most hunters that I know, barrs are part of the old way. Like most have said already, if one of the landowners caught us cutting and releasing hogs that would be the end of our hunting spot. They want them dead. We feed needy homes, friends, and ourselves with this meat. If you can get em out alive cool, that’s either money in the bank, or training for pups… but if they are hurting dogs, or are out in the middle of no-where then they’re gona be dispatched and broken down for grub for someone. The rest goes to the circle of life. ;D

around here north west fl were i live we dont have a lot of hogs . if we catch a sow and we want her we stick her if we dont we turn it loose .if we catch a boar hog and if we dont want him we turn him loose a barr  . we hunt other places where if it stops it drops and then we donat the meat to the needy

Where is that popcorn smiley???  ;D

71409 whe're you from ?  alot of people without and overpopulation of hogs don't understand the way we do things in texas . i'm an old timer and i personally would like to see every hog in texas either in a pen or dead or on the pit . them i can go back to my true passion of coon and rabbit huntin without all of the pork interfearing with the hunt and eating up all the mast crops and destroying turkey nest my friends that farm pastures ect.ect.ect.. and if you are not part of the solution YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM and if we can't control them our tax dollars and govt. will . just my 2 cents

Amen!! they say that we have to kill 7 out of every 10 pigs every year just to maintain the population where it is....we aint getting anywhere near that. Buzzards gotta eat too! same as worms

" Buzzards gotta eat too! same as worms "
OUTLAW JOSIE WALES?

We never catch and realease! Thats just adding to the already growing problem. We usually stick the hogs because we are a long ways away from the trucks and dont own any type of 4wheeler to get them out. On several occasions have had to kill the hog because they were whoopin up on the dogs. Not to mention most places I hunt you couldnt get a 4 wheeler to them if you wanted to and I dont feel like draggign a hog worth tying a mile. JMO

You flip him and tie him!!!

 Lots of times I don't even take a knife. Just rope to tie

I completely agree! I don't mind not turning sows back loose from a population stand point. But almost all boar hogs are cut and released where we are and transported to a barr rich hunting lease and kicked loose.

I agree it is a new trend, most old timers are as you describe. I do understand the aspect of not turning hogs back loose on crop land or destructive properties. To me narrowing and tieing hogs is a lost art! I contribute this to the rather large new, influx of weekend warrior hog hunters

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I agree it is a new trend, most old timers are as you describe. I do understand the aspect of not turning hogs back loose on crop land or destructive properties. To me narrowing and tieing hogs is a lost art! I contribute this to the rather large new, influx of weekend warrior hog hunters
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it's not a new trend bin hunting hogs 20 years bin sticking hogs for 20 years

ok so i guess i shoulda noted that theres not a four wheeler, atv, utv or anything else around to load a live hog on.. your all arms for 600 yards back to the truck with a kicking, flopping, head slinging hog with daggers.. ill carry a knife, some people have different ways of hunting everyone i hunt with carrys a pig sticker, the old timers i occasionally hunt with carry a gun and ride horses.
if its a smaller hog ill hobble it and drag it out..

it's not a new trend bin hunting hogs 20 years bin sticking hogs for 20 years
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Ok let me rephrase old timers with true dogmen! If you were to compare the group of hog hunters 20 years ago to hog hunters as a whole now I can guarantee you would see an overall increase in the percentage of "hog hunters" that kill the hogs instead of working. That myself is a trend.. Wen something becomes more popular

People state the exceptions to a rule instead of the norm too many times in hog hunting; and then develop their beliefs and actions upon these

I think unless you hunt hogs for a living then you could fall into the weekend warrior category. LOL Wouldnt that just be best described as differences in hunting styles?

But what is the hog population now compared to what it was twenty years ago?  What were the landowners attitudes about barring or catch and released as opposed to now?  I'm pretty sure I would fall under the description of a "weekend warrior" hog hunter, and I'll tell you right now that I'm just doing what my landowners want, which is the most important thing when it comes to keeping a place to hunt.  What do you think would happen if I had somebody call me about hogs tearing up this or that, and I want out there, caught a boar, cut him and turned him loose and the landowner found out?  It better be a set of nuts worth mounting because they probably just cost you a place to hunt.

Ok let me rephrase old timers with true dogmen! If you were to compare the group of hog hunters 20 years ago to hog hunters as a whole now I can guarantee you would see an overall increase in the percentage of "hog hunters" that kill the hogs instead of working. That myself is a trend.. Wen something becomes more popular

People state the exceptions to a rule instead of the norm too many times in hog hunting; and then develop their beliefs and actions upon these
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the men i started hunting hogs with were hunting hogs before there were a bunch of hogs around they hunted javelin and when they got a hog it was a treat and they stuck every hog

If my original post was read and properly interpreted I DID say that I understand where hogs should NOT be released on destructive properties or farm land.... Meaning places where you are brought in to remove an Kill hogs.

Jeez I understand not to go against landowners wishes, that's how properties are lost. we dont just cut everyhog where we catch him an cut him back loose. We have properties where it is forbidden to leave with anything dead.

In general though our group of hog hunters work the hogs like livestock. That's also why we catch 20+ barr's a year.

We will stick them and kill them in certain situations when the action is called for or required!

Amen brother!

I would definitly be classified in the weekend warrior category! LOL

x2!!! no doubt about that brother! I won't say that if I could do this for a living I wouldn't! I'm in the woods every chance I get, but as of now... it's only on the weekends. (not even that for a few more weeks  >:( )

We tie 99% of the hogs we catch whether we are taking em out, butchering them or marking and barring them.  Tony said it best, we work em like livestock. I do understand on farmlands and places where you've been asked to kill or remove them, but that's rare for us. I enjoy catching big barrs though.

Blake "weekend warriors" is a term we use loosely describing all groups of people and sports. I certainly dont see you as a weekend warrior, I meant more so the guys that get amped up about hog hunting. Get all into it for a year or two and then move on to something else..  I dont hog hunt for a living but being in school still we do try and hunt 3 or 4 times a week until summer hits


Thanks Ben

Ughhh liberls.... I stick and leave 90% of the hogs we catch, with the exception of the head I take home for a trophy or backstraps for meat. They bleed out while the CDs swinging off the ear.

You know why thats ok!?!? Let me tell you....These are not deer, dove, quail, etc. Its a varmit costing farmers and cattlemen and their families huge profits! Were allowed to hunt for 1 reason and its to get them off the property they are destroying! We dont dent the population, dogs just push them elsewhere.

Dont force opinions on other people, why do you say hobbling is better than sticking them, what liberal ideology / logic do you use?

Thats fine if it works for you, BUT DONT FORCE YOUR STYLE ON ME! Thats the problem...Sticking hogs is good for the eco system farmers cattle deer etc etc etc. I personally work 6 days a wk and have church on sunday and 2 kids, I simply dont have time to do anything but get the dogs on a lead and get home, and to the pleasure of the landowners I hunt for kill more hogs by not wasting any time messing with a caught one AND THERE ISNT A DANG THING WRONG WITH THAT!

First of all, I could care less what you do with your hogs, we are gonna catch ours regardless!! And I am not forcing an opinion on anyone, I already stated that I agree to killing hogs for the properties that warrant it. it's all how people enjoy the hunting, for some it is a quick trip to the woods like you said to get as many as you can.

We obviously hunt differently than you, alot of our time spent hunting is to enjoy the dog work and catch a trophy hog! An a trophy hog to us is a 300+ Barr hog in most cases. That being said we also hunt different country. How much damage can a hog do to 5k acres of pine plantation!? And most of these places where we cut hogs are deer leases, not private ownership land.

I don't know what your problem is with me, I was just agreeing to the fact of the young man that started this thread. While agreeing with the opposing side as well. You are now forcing your opinion on me that it is better to stick and leave the meat in the woods, since they are varmints and all

fellas fellas opinions are welcome. we all take hogs regardless. the young man was just voicing his opinion and we should respect each others while the topic is still open.

tshelly thing only flaw i see in your idiology is that the hogs don't STAY in the pine forest they breed and spread all across the land following the mast and food sources and then they breed and spread and breed and spread . now with that said i do not like leaving them to lay  for the yotes cause i hate helping them reproduce as well . we do all we can to salvage the meat and feed the needy and the hungry and the folks that just plain luv bbq wild hog . my truck is a rolling butcher shop

I'm not talking about turning sows loose though, and once their nuts are removed, there is no more breeding involved! I do agree they will travel though. He is simply there to fatten up and be harvested once his boar taint has been reduced from the meat, making him edible. Which we then process out and feed family and friends

You are hunting a species that with no natural eneimies, therefore no way to control there numbers, so i say to each there own.
It realy depends on the place i am hunting, some places i will lose if we turn pigs out, some we can cut and turn loose, and if i have people asking for meat i will call them to come get the meat. But the way i see it if you are going to hog hunt you have to be willing to do all that comes with it. JMO ;D

every body has there own style and way of hunting , every one likes a diffrent style of dog from long to short range , rough to stay back  , but we all luv one sport , dont let the little stuff seperate us , just my 2 cents

well said

Kudos

We hunt the places we hunt because we do as the landowner wants.. If they dont want any hogs takin out alive we dispatch the hog acordingly... Weather it be knife or gun but that really depends on the situation at that time. Now on the other hand.. We do barr and turn loose most of the boars on our hunting lease simply because people like to shoot trouphy hogs and as dog hunters we enjoy catching big barrs.. Ive also heard of some people turning all the hogs they catch loose because they want to have a steady place to go and catch hogs and i dont have a problem with that at all thats there business and everybody has there own way of doing things but thats JMO.

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thers some that can and some that will but a real hog hunter loves to make a big hog squil !!! what u do with em after that is just different style as long as there out of the pasture and here in south tx we just get em killed any way we can

x 2 LOL I would be hanging from the nearest tree if any of the farmers or ranchers found out I let any go or took any out alive where I hunt.

I know Tony just giving you a hard time.  ;)

I am the oppisite, cant beleive people risk there lives and dogs to waste time tying a $2 hog, shoot them or stick them and keep going is my motto, most big ranches dont want people on their ranches with a trailer that has been used to haul live hogs from all over the country especially if they have bangs or rabies in the area, there so many hogs in my area that ranchers compare mini 14s, ak57s and ar15s with high capacity cli[ps to see how many  hogs they had to leave laying in the woods, no way any dog hunter is going to keep up down here any more, to many hogs and getting worse every day, high fence deer operations can not risk diease as well and just trap and shoot year rould including dogs alas to my dismay but i can see why, there so many drop the tailgate illegals around here there are so many loose dogs left in the woods by hog dog hunters they been coming under the deer fences trying to find a home and meal, this county is prob one of the worse in texas i figure, u ought to see the snare trappers trophy collection of dog collars and pictures he shows new client ranch owners.........

Listen hear guys...I am not against a hunter killing an animal and kill them as you wish.  BUT U LISTEN To WHAT I AM GETTING READY TO TELL U.  The pig sticking videos and the cutting heads off that are posted on websites and youtube are going to be our demise.  Other topics on these forums about showing your cut up dogs and these pig sticking videos are going to get us in trouble.  Dog hunting in many states is already at risk.  FARMERS HEAR THIS....the guys that are catching your hogs and showing pig sticking videos and cutting heads off just to bragg about it, are the same guys you can blame when hog dogging becomes illegal.  I am fine with a hunter showing a picture of his kill or capture, but showing a actual video of it of the sticking in my mind is not right.  Fellas, kill what you want, but you better watch how you show it. 

x50!!!  I guess it was just the way i was brought up. 

Yuo come to the hillcountry with just a piece of rope and you will be useing it for a tourniquet.  you will have a large vet bill and no places to hunt these ranchers dont play that game.

I don't know where you come up with most landowners don't want you on there places with hog trailers???  I am a very lucky guy then because I've got more land than most and i remove everything alive.  If you show your making progress and keep your mouth closed these hog could end up anywhere.  Not saying i cut them loose but most of them make it to the sale where i cover my cost every year.  I run this as a side business and I'm also ahead every year.  Not getting into all this because everyone has different opiouns and it really doesn't matter cause I'm going to keep catching and tieing.  Nothing wrong with everyone else stabbing them, i just prefer tieing. 

Hillcountry is my hunting buddy and yes that is a invite Txhogsanddogs when u coming!! ;)

@hoghunter 74109 I do have to agree with you on your last post. The more pics of cut up dogs and headless hogs are for fueling Petas fire. Think before you post. Now lets get back to stickin or dragn em out jk  O0w

Hell yeah, lets plan on something in Feb or March.  Ill be down in that area hunting the TDHA. 

yes well said

JP,
   Y'all be sure and leave your guns at home, just carry the camera. I want to see the video of him legging and tying one of those bad boys after climbing up and down a couple canyons, and having to leg the hog on the edge of a 100' cliff. ;D

Making a stick and legging one is no difference, in fact you have more room to play by just legging one Circel C but I'm sure you know that!  ;)

What's the argument for anyways?  Everyone has there way!  Legging or sticking isn't any better than the next NEW way.  I'll hang onto my old way is all I'm saying and yes i love a challenge and would love the chance at some of JP's boars!

Chris
I don't doubt the man can tie one hell I can tie them all day but getting them out is another story may need to rent a helicopter but it will be fun to watch I will bring my camera so I can get Txhogsanddogs   first stick!! :D

That's why I made the reference to the guns...  Some places it's better to just shoot them and leave them lay.  I'll tie, stick, shoot...it doesn't matter to me. It's more to do with the terrain.  When I go hunt with JP, the only catch dog I bring is a .357 levergun.   Seems a lot of people forget how large and diverse Texas is... hard to find a "best" way for the entire state.    There have been a handful of posts in this thread that don't acknowledge the differences in landscape and why there are different methods of catching/killing.

Now i didn't say i could get them out.  What is frustrating it that I can get a wheeler anywhere to get my hogs out but I have cut a 8ft tree plenty of times and carried between his legs to get him out.  Ive stuck some before but where i am i don't have to stick them.  I just don't like when someone post you can't around here!!!  Well I'm not around HERE.  Man, we do need to hook up and make a run though.  Yes, and please video all you want.  I need some good footage because everything around me is way to thick.  

I'm with you there.  The terrain is the factor for sure.  Around me it's ruff but how i drive my rhino i can usually get within 100yds of the hog! 

I don't want to start a debate about what's right and wrong. I just would like to say that stabbing a hog is part of it, and if we have to hide what we do then, IMO, we have already lost. I have posted a video online and it is on YouTube, but it is of our crew doing what we do best... And that's find and either kill or remove hogs. We do not post pics of dogs cut up and laid up, not do we tell graphic stories. The stabs that we do have on vid are done quick and the animal dies within a couple seconds rather than getting shot 3-5 times, and I'm not knocking shooting hogs either. We also put a lot of thought into the clips that were shown and how they were shown as well, with placements of pics into the vid to take certain things out. In my opinion, yes, there are a few more things that could have been changed, but it still is politically correct as possible considering we are showing videos of animals being found and bayed and then being dispatched, but that is the real deal and that is why we show it. There is one big 400+ lbs boar hog in our video that could have been taken care of a little better, but everything doesn't always go perfect out there either. We do the best we can with what we are given and then put in the time and effort to make sure it is acceptable. In doing so, with over 1600 hits in less than 6 months have received zero negative responses. We do not brag about what we do, we simply put it together for people to enjoy and see what we do. I may be by myself in this, but I enjoy seeing everyone's vids and pics, and I think that is up to us to all stick together, and no matter how we all do decide to hunt, think about what and how we post, so we do not "lose" to the antis. JMO

DAMN GUYS, Who care who sticks or ties or etc.............
I catch and tie everything that I can sale and stick everything else.

Everyone has their own way.
Some like curs,some like hounds,some like dogos, Some dogs I would not feed and others think they are the greatest.
We are helping control the population of hogs. Does'nt matter how we do it.
I have never posted a pic of anything on any web site. The less anyone knows the less headaches we all have. ;)
My photos are for my photo album and my family to enjoy, And I catch alot of hogs over the year.

The days of working hogs is over in my area.

Just don't get mad at me for me watching my back and yours too.  I'm all about the video showing hogs bayed and I love looking at the final pics. I am just saying, you never know who is watching the part of the video where you are stabbing a hog.  Whether we like it or not, not everybody agrees with this and there is somebody out there that is going to try to make an issue out of it.  Just wait!  Then we are stuck with defending ourselves.  It is kind of like a bad employee....all they have to do is make one issue and say they were mistreated, them I am stuck dealing with that for weeks. 

I think your videos could be slightly shorter and edit the filming so that stabbing is not out there for everybody to see.  Heck, I was probably one of the 1600 that watched, heck I may have watched two or three times. 

If there is ever a hill country hog hunt, i want in it!  I want my plotts in that hunt!  When you got plotts like mine, all you need is a bulldog and rope.  the only knife I carry is my little Case...use it for barring!!!

I am not getting mad... Just simply stating that it is better, IMO, to be real, but cautious at the same time. The stabbing happens and yes, some people may not like it... But to the people that would like to use it against us, all I say is that it is better than a lot of the ways that people take care of swine. I think stabbing a hog and BBQing it for all to enjoy is a lot better than barring it or shooting a whole sounder and leaving them where they are shot to waist. But that is just my opinion and to each his/her own. We unfortunately do not have a 4wheeler at the moment, but once we do there will be lots more catch and tie. ;D but that doesn't mean we won't still stab a few!!! lol! BUT your opinion s and concerns have been duly noted and taken down. Thanks for the advice.

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j325/pigrig1/014.jpg) who needs a 4 wheeler for an excuse to get  a pig home u got 2 legs we carry them for damn miles is all part of it

sounds like you and the rest of the peda people can choose not to look it up and watch video or b!@th about what others are doing or how there doing it

LMAO!!! That's a great pic! I'm talkin catch and tie alive though. We kill most and break them down on site and carry out the trophies, but on occasion we will have a 4wheeler or a side-by-side handy... that's when it gets really fun.  ;D Oh, we WILL have one soon I tell you!  >:D I mean, look at Eric! LOL! had to buddy!

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we usually tie every hog and every 1 is sold only way we stick is if we get in a bad situation but i do understand the fact (different strokes for different folks)

Ryan, the difference between you and me is you carry them for miles dead, i carry them for miles or as far as I have to alive! How big was that hog you were carrying?   Once I get to my side-by-side, they ride alive all the way home.  Then they are dispatched.  They go back to my pen until I am ready to butcher.


Moon, your post is ignorant becuase you don't know..and you spelled PEDA wrong.  It is PETA.  You obviously know a lot about this dont you.  Mt b!@th is about people that are posting stuff that doesn't need to be posted.   

You are right about that I wont carry a hog dead or alive for miles without a 4 wheeler or side by side but to each thier own. Ryan wasnt on that hunt because of an injury but his best dog was. The guy carrying the hog is our buddy Eric and I would guess it weighed close to 100 lbs.

I did forget about that! That's a good point. We just have a lot of places we can't get a 4wheeler to. I wish I had a helicopter. ;D

and I was just being funny posting that pic up... That's sausage buddy not a trophy!! Lol! I wish I could have been on that hunt. ;D and your key statement was side-by-side... Lol! I wish I had one on stand by, and then it would deff be a better reason to make the haul alive. Good stuff! Thanks for taking em out for a jog Blake!

In the past, we have stuck sows in the woods taking straps and hams and carrying them out.  Boars were tied and drug out to be cut and fed out.  I have never run across a barr hog in the woods as of yet, so I cannot really say how they would be handled.  But, a woman in Nacogdoches is now paying pretty good money for pork on the hoof so when February gets here, I bet we tie and sell everything we can find. 

Geographically, we hunt in thick river bottoms.  A lot of places you cannot drive anything to, so yeah, we have fed coyotes buzzards etcetera with hogs left on the ground.  There is no such thing as catching a hog and letting it back go around here.

why b!tch about it its not for you that's fine but hog hunting is fueled by the thrill of the chase and getting your trophy well once you get your trophy you show it off why that's what hunters and sportsmen do just a fact . I do believe that most hunters hunt because they love to hunt and show of there trophies and if you don't like or agree whit the means or methods a hunter takes or displays his trophy well that's your prerogative just don't watch the videos look at the pics .
You said that you carry live hogs for mile or as far as you have to good for you your way not mine just because I or other hunters do things different than you think it should be done does it make it wrong no just different
also when you say i carry live hogs for miles you sound like a spoiled rich kid saying my cars better and more expensive than yours i don't call you plum stupid for carrying a live hog covered in ticks and lice kicking and screaming no i say good hog nice hunt and so don't bash my way and style of hog hunting if you don't agree whith the way i hunt don't look it's that simple

Peewee, I happen to be a 36 year old man.  A vertan of a foreign war, I fought and killed for this county since I left high school.  As a matter af fact, you can thank me for your freedom.  Are you an old fart?  And I have found away to hold a decent job and get two degrees from college over the past 18 years.  You can call me what you like, but I assure you I am no kid. 

Your post shows how much you dont know, how much you have not read my post.  Where did I ever say dont show your trophies?  Show me please Peewee. I have never bashed anybodys way of hunting, just live everybody else, I have pointed out differences or not agreed.  I am bashing the idea of hunters putting the "pig sticking" part of the video out there for everyone to see.  Why do you think TV shows have impact statements cautioning people that watch.  These graphic videos and graphic pics of pigs beeingstuck and dogs being cut is going to get us in trouble.  If hog hunting with dogs gets outlawed one day, dont ask yoiurself why?  These graphic videos and pics are a sleeping little flame that is going to be fuled and it is going to turn in to be a big fire one day....mark my words!!!

I will take this opportunity to... LOL!

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  :laugh: my arse off

and in the blue trunks we have.... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Ding ding ding >:D

Sorry to instigate just couldnt resist

Ridge..it is all good.  A little instigation never hurt.  It is just a fourm, guys expressing opinions.  When someone else starts a "more hot topic post" this one will be forgotten.  It kind of has me thinking about what I'll start next.  I am a big boy and can handle any words anybody wants to send my way.  I believe in what I believe and it looks like so do a lot of others.  That is why this is America, the greatest county on earth.  Thats why I went to war and that is why I still train Soldiers in our US Armed Forces.  I do my job becuase I like it....I hog hunt becuase I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!

My opinion is if u cant catch an tie them an bring them out of the woods alive. Then it ain't worth it.

LOL and my opinion is THE ONLY GOOD HOG IS A DEAD HOG!!!!!! LMAO  >:D

am i wrong for doing it this way. i carry rope in my back pocket, a big buck knife on my right hip, and a 357 levergun in my hands. got all my bases covered. can do whatever the situation calls for

forgot to add that i also ride a four wheeler, and i get off and beat the brush too

We make our money charging the farmers and ranchers not packing hogs dead or alive.