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Title: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 13, 2012, 06:18:31 pm So after seeing post after post and comment after comment where people bash hounds I wanted to stand up for the ol flop eared dog and give another angle on them.
People on here are about 80% yella dog fans with the other breeds filling the rest of the small %. Nothing wrong with ybc but, I'm a fan myself. what about hounds Hounds, called babblers, dumb, slow, weak ect. but How many times has a person ever bred a cur to hound to get more nose? more hunt? more bottom? more range? in there hounds. Never, but what do you breed a cur dog to if you need those things = Hounds 9 out of 10 times How many big game outfitters make there living using curs? How many with hounds = most probably 95% or better. These guys either catch the game or the kids don't eat, there not out there to listen to dogs babble, it's do or die How many curs where used in the west and north west to track down killer bears and lions that were destroying ranch stock as this country was being founded? Can you name a single famous big game hunter who ran a pack of curs = nope, how about hounds = to many to list, ever heard of Ben Lilly? What breed of dog was first brought to Africa to hunt dangerous big cats= hounds What dog has been used to track men who HAD to be caught killers, rapist escaped from prisons = hounds I looked on a web site not long ago of a fella who had at the time one of the best Yella dogs alive according to those in the know, guess what in every single pic where there were hogs bayed I noticed in the back ground or off to the side one thing = Hounds Go anywhere in the world you find hounds hunting, be it big game or small, fast or slow, tough or weak. Look far back into these curs and you find hound blood lurking in there some where I bet. Curs can hunt, we all know that. But hounds are what is used when conditions are rough, game is hard to find, trails are cold, or the game in question must be to be caught no matter what. Hounds = The original hunting dog! Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Bar R Ranch on February 13, 2012, 06:26:15 pm So after seeing post after post and comment after comment where people bash hounds I wanted to stand up for the ol flop eared dog and give another angle on them. Good post.... Ill go ahead and put the popcorn in the microwavePeople on here are about 80% yella dog fans with the other breeds filling the rest of the small %. Nothing wrong with ybc but, I'm a fan myself. what about hounds Hounds, called babblers, dumb, slow, weak ect. but How many times has a person ever bred a cur to hound to get more nose? more hunt? more bottom? more range? in there hounds. Never, but what do you breed a cur dog to if you need those things = Hounds 9 out of 10 times How many big game outfitters make there living using curs? How many with hounds = most probably 95% or better. These guys either catch the game or the kids don't eat, there not out there to listen to dogs babble, it's do or die How many curs where used in the west and north west to track down killer bears and lions that were destroying ranch stock as this country was being founded? Can you name a single famous big game hunter who ran a pack of curs = nope, how about hounds = to many to list, ever heard of Ben Lilly? What breed of dog was first brought to Africa to hunt dangerous big cats= hounds What dog has been used to track men who HAD to be caught killers, rapist escaped from prisons = hounds I looked on a web site not long ago of a fella who had at the time one of the best Yella dogs alive according to those in the know, guess what in every single pic where there were hogs bayed I noticed in the back ground or off to the side one thing = Hounds Go anywhere in the world you find hounds hunting, be it big game or small, fast or slow, tough or weak. Look far back into these curs and you find hound blood lurking in there some where I bet. Curs can hunt, we all know that. But hounds are what is used when conditions are rough, game is hard to find, trails are cold, or the game in question must be to be caught no matter what. Hounds = The original hunting dog! (http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/forum/smileyvault-popcorn.gif) (http://www.smileyvault.com/) Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 13, 2012, 06:28:18 pm " Good post.... Ill go ahead and put the popcorn in the microwave " ;)
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: firemedic on February 13, 2012, 07:00:09 pm Good topic,....I can't wait to see what all comes out of this. Now y'all play nice. :angel:
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: TexasHogDogs on February 13, 2012, 07:08:24 pm Well I got my Jack and Coke sipping on it wait'n to see this one !
I am glad I like both and like my dogs mixed. Yall get to'er hear ! Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Wmwendler on February 13, 2012, 07:10:29 pm ;D............Let me start by saying any part I have in this discussion is my opinion and is all in good humor. A little pot stirring yes, but not really bashing.
Also there is WAY more to Cur dogs than the Color Yellow.....just wanted to get that straight. So after seeing post after post and comment after comment where people bash hounds I wanted to stand up for the ol flop eared dog and give another angle on them. People on here are about 80% yella dog fans with the other breeds filling the rest of the small %. Nothing wrong with ybc but, I'm a fan myself. what about hounds Hounds, called babblers, dumb, slow, weak ect. but How many times has a person ever bred a cur to hound to get more nose? more hunt? more bottom? more range? in there hounds. Never, but what do you breed a cur dog to if you need those things = Hounds 9 out of 10 times How many big game outfitters make there living using curs? How many with hounds = most probably 95% or better. These guys either catch the game or the kids don't eat, there not out there to listen to dogs babble, it's do or die This is a hog hunting web site as you know. Hogs are livestock not really big game..... but I will play. I only know one guy who hunts big game with dogs. Cougars and Bears. He's not an outfitter but the goal is the same. He actually has a Wethorfords Ben bred Cur dog that contributes allot to getting the game treed. His cur cannot compete with his hounds in cold trailing, but then again weathorfords been bred dogs are not known or bred for thier cold nose. How many curs where used in the west and north west to track down killer bears and lions that were destroying ranch stock as this country was being founded? Can you name a single famous big game hunter who ran a pack of curs = nope, how about hounds = to many to list, ever heard of Ben Lilly? You mentioned the west and northwest but what about the South. Plenty of Cur dogs were being used to track and kill problem bears and cougars on the parts of the frontier that had cur dogs. Florida, Luisiana, Texas. There is a great example in the big thicket legacy if you've ever read that book. Also you cannot forget about the mountain Cur and the American Leopard Cur which recently was changed to the American Leopard Hound >:( They get used on big game all the time, exp. bears What breed of dog was first brought to Africa to hunt dangerous big cats= hounds The rodesian ridgeback? Hunts more like a Cur than a hound in my opinion What dog has been used to track men who HAD to be caught killers, rapist escaped from prisons = hounds I looked on a web site not long ago of a fella who had at the time one of the best Yella dogs alive according to those in the know, guess what in every single pic where there were hogs bayed I noticed in the back ground or off to the side one thing = Hounds I can't really comment not knowing about any of those dogs. Maybe he had a good freind that liked hounds?? Go anywhere in the world you find hounds hunting, be it big game or small, fast or slow, tough or weak. Look far back into these curs and you find hound blood lurking in there some where I bet. If the rest of the world had cur dogs, they would be using them. Cur dogs originated in the USA after the rest of the world was colinated. Why do you never hear about people importing hounds into Australia from USA to hunt hogs? Because they are not doing it. They are doing it with Cur dogs.[/color] Curs can hunt, we all know that. But hounds are what is used when conditions are rough, game is hard to find, trails are cold, or the game in question must be to be caught no matter what. Hounds = The original hunting dog! Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Wmwendler on February 13, 2012, 07:14:22 pm Yes....sometimes people cross hounds into Curs. For what reason is beyond me. I've seen it create far more culls than solid dogs hog dogs. All it does is water down the good traits of the curs, and bring in the bad of the hounds.
Waylon Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: T-Bob Parker on February 13, 2012, 07:24:17 pm You know lions wolves and bears ain't a problem in Texas? CUR DOGS!! And we're working on the hogs ;)
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Reuben on February 13, 2012, 07:32:54 pm So after seeing post after post and comment after comment where people bash hounds I wanted to stand up for the ol flop eared dog and give another angle on them. People on here are about 80% yella dog fans with the other breeds filling the rest of the small %. Nothing wrong with ybc but, I'm a fan myself. what about hounds Hounds, called babblers, dumb, slow, weak ect. but How many times has a person ever bred a cur to hound to get more nose? more hunt? more bottom? more range? in there hounds. Never, but what do you breed a cur dog to if you need those things = Hounds 9 out of 10 times How many big game outfitters make there living using curs? How many with hounds = most probably 95% or better. These guys either catch the game or the kids don't eat, there not out there to listen to dogs babble, it's do or die How many curs where used in the west and north west to track down killer bears and lions that were destroying ranch stock as this country was being founded? Can you name a single famous big game hunter who ran a pack of curs = nope, how about hounds = to many to list, ever heard of Ben Lilly? What breed of dog was first brought to Africa to hunt dangerous big cats= hounds What dog has been used to track men who HAD to be caught killers, rapist escaped from prisons = hounds I looked on a web site not long ago of a fella who had at the time one of the best Yella dogs alive according to those in the know, guess what in every single pic where there were hogs bayed I noticed in the back ground or off to the side one thing = Hounds Go anywhere in the world you find hounds hunting, be it big game or small, fast or slow, tough or weak. Look far back into these curs and you find hound blood lurking in there some where I bet. Curs can hunt, we all know that. But hounds are what is used when conditions are rough, game is hard to find, trails are cold, or the game in question must be to be caught no matter what. Hounds = The original hunting dog! amen to this one... :) :) the best hog dogs I personally saw in the past had some hound in them...a lot of the curs would only take a smoking hot track and would pass up or quit a lot of hogs. but mtn cur type dogs were bred to be all around dogs but the main purpose was to hunt squirrel, coon, boar and bear...that was their primary purpose but just like any other breed they have been bred right by some breeders and others have bred them like fiest dogs... some are bred to be long range like they were originally intended to be bred and used and now as the hunting tracts are getting smaller some breeders are breeding short range smaller type squirrel dogs... they say that the plott has mtn cur and others say it is the other way around...it doesn't matter to me how it happened but I do know that the mtn cur has a lot of hound in them and some strains have more than others... Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: TexasHogDogs on February 13, 2012, 07:35:41 pm Yes....sometimes people cross hounds into Curs. For what reason is beyond me. I've seen it create far more culls than solid dogs hog dogs. All it does is water down the good traits of the curs, and bring in the bad of the hounds. Waylon Lmao ! Woooooooooooo weeeeee I might have to put my gloves on for that one LOL ! Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: ROCKIN ROO HOG DOGS on February 13, 2012, 07:39:51 pm Every thing you have stated is true waylon,but it is only relevant to the type of game the hounds were used on,cats coon and bear all species that will tree.....hence the use of loud,trail barking dogs. Its obvious through trial and error for many years that curs have proven to be the superior dog for hunting hogs,due to the ability to run a track SILENTLY! I think any dog man appreciates all working dogs and what they are bred to do SPECIFICALLY,but.........with this being a hog hunting forum,your always going to come up against th tunnel visioned handlers that only like a good hog dog. I myself love to watch a good rabbit dog work as much as i do a cow dog or coon dog etc etc. That being said,you know ive been a passionate yella dog man for years,mainly tolson dogs when i could get them,but just last week i went down the road and got me a bluetick hound puppy to mess with,im not biased and am up for the challenge,hes 8 weeks old and nose to the ground everywhere but i love him and he will get a chance on my yard,glad to see you posting up again waylon,hope all is well with you and the family.
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 13, 2012, 07:43:27 pm I'm not looking for a fight, but ain't scared of one either. Really what I'm trying to do is point out that the cur dog is not the end all of hunting dogs and will never replace the hound for absolute must catch game dog -NEVER
Now to respond to the other Waylon's remarks - Yes you know one person who runs a cur with hounds, but how many pack of all curs are out there where the game is hard to find and the ground is dry and hard? When I mentioned the west and north west I included New Mexico to California and north into Montana, that covers dry arid ground, hard stoney ground, cold frozen ground, deep thick forest ect. pretty much every terrain one can think of. Now as I mentioned Ben Lilly, a man who hunted bounty animals from Louisiana to old mexico to the far north, 100% hound hunter, Then there is the lee brother, Wiley Carrol and on and on all 100% hounds- no curs. Why because curs were stock dogs and farm/ranch dogs. Why didn't those local cowboys just load up there curs and go catch the lions and bears instead of sending frantic letters for the old hound men to " come quick " ? The mountain cur - do you honestly doubt it has hound blood flowing in it's veins Leopard hound, yes once called cur. Common knowledge that this dog had it's origin from the hound and some cur while still hidden in the Carolinas. I knew Veral Keeter personally, trained a leopard for him named " Danny " in early 2000, Veral who's brother was one of the first men to own this breed after registry and one of the men who discovered the breed. Now this dog has had more hound blood bred into it, so much so that the breed had a name change, but I'm sure this was done because in it's former state is was to good at hunting and people wanted to bring down it's natural ability by adding hound blood :D Ridgeback - so great a dog that when rich hunters in Africa wanted to hunt the big spotted cat's that they sent and paid for Dale Lee to bring his hounds all the way from America to get the job done, I'm sure they just han't ever heard of the ridgeback yet ;) The cur dog man owned these hounds, they were all plotts. When I checked into why he had them I was told " he runs them because when he starts a hog he wants it caught no matter what " You don't need a cur down under I guess, seems they are so many hogs that they catch them with about any dog and a heart beat - http://www.boardogs.com/Boardogs_Breed_Information.htm Again, I'm not looking for a fight or to argue, but I'm tired of hearing all the trash talk about hounds. Maybe where you live curs are best, but outside of East Texas there are some places believe it or not that curs are not looked upon with such honor. Like I said I like curs, but there no hounds! - Waylon Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: monroes dogs on February 13, 2012, 07:43:55 pm amen got to love them hounds i like hunting both but love to her the race and the insanley loud bay ;D
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 13, 2012, 07:46:28 pm " curs have proven to be the superior dog for hunting hogs,due to the ability to run a track SILENTLY! "
So Jimmy hounds were never used to bay lol Come on you know better than that and if you comment is true then a silent hound would have to be the " PERFECT HOG DOG " correct? Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 13, 2012, 07:49:31 pm " You know lions wolves and bears ain't a problem in Texas? " Really T-bob go to extreme south west Texas, look up the most famous lion hunter still living Henry Mcintre see what type of dog he is using in TEXAS to hunt lions that ARE STILL A BIG PROBLEM. Here is a link. Oh and T-bob why were you wanting some July HOUNDS again???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omZxipU6ypM Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: TexasHogDogs on February 13, 2012, 07:51:24 pm I love hounds andI agree with you on the hounds but when it comes to chasing hogs I perfer the straight cur are Cur Hound cross there is only one reason I dont run full Hounds and that is the only reason they are to open mouth for me on track and just push and push hogs dont like it never will. But the weird thing about it is for anything else coon what ever I would own noting but hounds because I love to hear the music the tune up in the woods . I love everthing about a Hound even the mouth but not on hogs.
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 13, 2012, 08:01:03 pm TexasHogDogs - I agree in East Texas where hogs are hunted often with dogs a silent dog is probably better. I never said open dogs were better hog dogs, nor did I ever say hounds were better than curs. All I'm saying is the cur has his place = short races , hotter tracks, stock work.
But the hounds own the rest IMO = tough tracks, BIG game, fast game long running game ie. coyote, deer, lions So it seems the general opinions is the cur is great because they are silent. So lets all get hounds and breed silent ones. The cur dog as I see it was bred to work stock( hogs, sheep, goats, cow;s), protect home/farm/ranch kids and wife used catch varmints. The cur can not compare to the hound in bottom, nose, desire to catch it's prey come hell or high water. The hound can compare in brains or use as an all around dog, the hound has ONE burning desire to hunt Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: ROCKIN ROO HOG DOGS on February 13, 2012, 08:01:53 pm I never said hounds were never used to BAY,and yes if hounds were silent on track i believe in ,my own heart they would be the superior hog dog. As a matter of fact the best strike dog i had was a silent walker hound......the trouble is finding one that is and wont push hogs like jim says,but to contradict myself,i also believe if the dog is open yet has enough bottom he will get the job done anyways. These few and far between oklahoma hogs are the reason im trying my hound pup,hell im even thinking of another one too if i have the room,its time to change somethin around here,the curs are just not ranging enough to get it done. I apoligize to the yellow dog gods for my blasphemy but i need to catch some pork!!
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Reuben on February 13, 2012, 08:02:55 pm some hounds are fast on track and quick to locate and they cross over good with a cur...one of the best dogs I ever had was 1/2 mtn cur and 1/2 bmc. he was semi open but could straighten out a track and make it look easy.
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 13, 2012, 08:06:23 pm " I apoligize to the yellow dog gods for my blasphemy but i need to catch some pork!! " - now your coming around ;)
That's what I'm saying, curs have no where near enough bottom as a general rule, you will like that hound. Ever seen running walkers get on a hog, that mouth doesn't hurt them at all. if your dogs are fast, mouth is not that big of a deal. Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 13, 2012, 08:09:37 pm " These few and far between oklahoma hogs are the reason im trying my hound pup,hell im even thinking of another one too if i have the room,its time to change somethin around here,the curs are just not ranging enough to get it done. "
This is why I'm tired of the mouthing off about hounds, there are places where curs just don't work as well- curs have there place, but so do hounds. I have high hopes for your little blue dog Jimmy, I've got 2 walkers in the yard right now, there coon dogs but they might get some hog action pretty soon anyway Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Lance on February 13, 2012, 08:49:43 pm Mr. Waylon, I like your fire and I bet if somebody hit you in the head with an ax all they would do is ruin a good ax, and i mean that in a good way with all due respect. I liked T Bobs statement, but ! My father and grandfather were houndsmen when hunting coons and squirrels. When hunting hogs or working cows they used curs but to give away the family secret alot of those curs had a little hound in them ! Im still hunting some of that blood today and their hard to beat. I guess what Im trying to say is. I like a little hound in my curs, but when their born I want them to shut their mouth and come out yeller !
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Reuben on February 13, 2012, 08:54:53 pm Mr. Waylon, I like your fire and I bet if somebody hit you in the head with an ax all they would do is ruin a good ax, and i mean that in a good way with all due respect. I liked T Bobs statement, but ! My father and grandfather were houndsmen when hunting coons and squirrels. When hunting hogs or working cows they used curs but to give away the family secret alot of those curs had a little hound in them ! Im still hunting some of that blood today and their hard to beat. I guess what Im trying to say is. I like a little hound in my curs, but when their born I want them to shut their mouth and come out yeller ! when I hear of a good hunting line of cur dogs the first thing that crosses my mind is a touch of "walker" in the line...but then I believe most good line of hunting dogs have a certain percentage of hound. Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: SCHitemHard on February 13, 2012, 08:56:15 pm i grew up a houndman. plotts, blues, and walkers were in the mix, didnt get to curs till i got older and my papa cussed the first cur that came to the yard
ill stick with my dach for right now Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Bigdog on February 13, 2012, 09:13:46 pm come on waylon u could have put this on any forum on the internet but why this one.lol next time u want to vent about them good cur dogs call me.lmao.
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 13, 2012, 09:16:07 pm Now you chime in Russell lol! Where were you when the bullets were buzzing over my head ;) Really I'm not venting on the curs, just standing up for the hound, I owe them dogs that much.
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: halfbreed on February 13, 2012, 09:21:07 pm i hunted the straight curs awhile these curs today ain't the curs from back in the 60's and beibg an old houndsman i keep puttin more and more hound blood into the curs 50/50 still ain't enough for me more hound in the curs the better ha ha waylon you got alot of pent up frustration you been gone to long good to have ya back (http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj507/halfbreed3/R1-1A_0002.jpg) here's ol jack a good cow and hog dog now in west texas tearin up the hogs . but he's only 50/50 cat runninwalker
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Bryant on February 13, 2012, 09:21:25 pm Most good, hard hunting lines of cur dogs will have some hound bred in somewhere down the line. There...I said it! ;D. Heck, I know a lot of the East Texas black mouths did. Rumor even has it that the YBM could have originated as a black and tan / mastiff type cross. If someone thinks they have an antique line of curs with absolutely no hound in them, chances are they probably just haven't traced them back quite far enough.
I always suspected my dogs had hound bred in way down the line not only based on looks but also because of the "unconventional and houndy" way they hunt...not to mention they always bred true to color...either yellow or saddleback. It wasn't until just this past year that we confirmed the crossing in of trigg hound wwwaaayyy down the line. Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Lance on February 13, 2012, 09:24:26 pm Me too Reuben. But I want them to be quiet until their looking at the hog. I dont mind them yipping 4 or 5 times when one breaks but I cant take a bunch of bawling on hogs. I go coon hunting with my friend every now and then and I do love to hear his walkers sound off when their running a coon. I think hounds are awesome dogs when used for what their bred for, and theres no better nose for a cold trail in a dry climate. I think a persons preference to dogs has alot to do with the climate they live in, how big the properties are they hunt, and what they grew up with. Like I said, I like a touch of hound in my Yellers !
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: YELLOWBLACKMASK on February 13, 2012, 09:34:12 pm Mama said HOUNDS are the DEVIL!
(http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h450/YELLOWBLACKMASK/2011-12-10_15-30-15_564.jpg) Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Lance on February 13, 2012, 09:38:35 pm YELLOWBLACKMASK, somethings wrong with your mondula oblongata ! I like it !!!! moma said, moma said, moma said !
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 13, 2012, 09:45:24 pm " waylon you got alot of pent up frustration you been gone to long good to have ya back " Good to be back buddy.
I see the wind starting to shift in another direction on this topic, perhaps we can find middle ground after all. I like them dogs your breeding up half breed, I think about 1/4 cur 3/4 hound will work for ya, you might get tight mouthed hounds that way. I knew there were some hound fans here, they just needed some one to fire the first shot is all. Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: halfbreed on February 13, 2012, 10:04:13 pm Mama said HOUNDS are the DEVIL! (http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h450/YELLOWBLACKMASK/2011-12-10_15-30-15_564.jpg) COME OVER HERE AND SAY THAT !!!!! (http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj507/halfbreed3/R1-4A_0003.jpg) Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: T-Bob Parker on February 13, 2012, 10:15:44 pm " waylon you got alot of pent up frustration you been gone to long good to have ya back " Good to be back buddy. I see the wind starting to shift in another direction on this topic, perhaps we can find middle ground after all. I like them dogs your breeding up half breed, I think about 1/4 cur 3/4 hound will work for ya, you might get tight mouthed hounds that way. I knew there were some hound fans here, they just needed some one to fire the first shot is all. Waylon, you know there's one type of hound I would like to try but I hear it takes years to get ahold of one! :laugh: ;) I hope you ain't forgot about our little hound dog secret. ;) Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: YELLOWBLACKMASK on February 13, 2012, 10:17:23 pm Our Mama said hounds are the devil too. So beam me up SPOTTY! >:D
(http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h450/YELLOWBLACKMASK/Yellerpups.jpg) Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: halfbreed on February 13, 2012, 10:23:02 pm ha ha ha looks like we ready to rumble ;D
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Canyon creek killer on February 13, 2012, 10:27:46 pm Great lookin pups boys!
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Lance on February 13, 2012, 10:31:25 pm Our Mama said hounds are the devil too. So beam me up SPOTTY! >:D (http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h450/YELLOWBLACKMASK/Yellerpups.jpg) Oh, I do like those puppys !!! If you ever decide you've got more puppies than you can handle then just let me know and Ill help you out ! Need em, need em, need em! Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: CentralTex 254 on February 13, 2012, 10:33:07 pm 2 of the best dogs ive ever seen hunt were walker/bmc mixes. I think most people are getting into the trends such as bmc ymc for strike dogs and pits for catch dogs. Every and then its nice to have a change. Ive had muts catch and muts strike but yet again this is just my opinion ;D
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Peachcreek on February 13, 2012, 11:09:52 pm "All I'm saying is the cur has his place = short races , hotter tracks, stock work." popo
Na says I!!! not all of them... ;) Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: crj4926 on February 13, 2012, 11:10:42 pm We had some walker running walkers and some plotts that were silent on track and would trail a hog off that cur dogs wouldn't even think about running but my honest opinion it all depends on the dogs drive to hunt it doesn't matter if it's a mutt or a registered yellow dog or a hound
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: ole shep on February 13, 2012, 11:21:45 pm I'm a hound man also. Ive had them all though cats, ybmc,airdales,ridgebacks, and cross them up,and line bred the good ones. But when I got older and got New dogs I went strait hound mainly plotts. I hunt with curs and some damn good ones. Some guys won't put there dogs with an open mouth dog. But that's ok too. If I hunted small places I would probably be hunting something else. I'm done babbling now.
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: bayed hard hog dogs on February 13, 2012, 11:23:16 pm Well I my self have been a long time hound man love hounds, I personally have hounds I'm a sucker for a big walker, I will back you 110 % waylon you know I will, you will not beat a hound on nose, range,hunt and natural ability hands down best all around dog. I my self use ybmc to run hogs with but I'm not scared to give credit where credit is do.
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: YELLOWBLACKMASK on February 13, 2012, 11:44:55 pm We had some walker running walkers and some plotts that were silent on track and would trail a hog off that cur dogs wouldn't even think about running but my honest opinion it all depends on the dogs drive to hunt it doesn't matter if it's a mutt or a registered yellow dog or a hound Gotta put unregistered Yeller dogs in there....two totally different breeds! ;D Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: crj4926 on February 14, 2012, 12:07:46 am I forgot about the unregistered yellow dogs I don't own a registered dog myself so I have to agree the unregistered ones are in a category all by themselves haha
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: txhogsanddogs on February 14, 2012, 12:33:27 am Well I my self have been a long time hound man love hounds, I personally have hounds I'm a sucker for a big walker, I will back you 110 % waylon you know I will, you will not beat a hound on nose, range,hunt and natural ability hands down best all around dog. I my self use ybmc to run hogs with but I'm not scared to give credit where credit is do. After that quote you might loose a hunting partner! ;) YBM Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: YELLOWBLACKMASK on February 14, 2012, 12:41:04 am Well I my self have been a long time hound man love hounds, I personally have hounds I'm a sucker for a big walker, I will back you 110 % waylon you know I will, you will not beat a hound on nose, range,hunt and natural ability hands down best all around dog. I my self use ybmc to run hogs with but I'm not scared to give credit where credit is do. After that quote you might loose a hunting partner! ;) YBM I was thinking more like REPO! Bank note just came due! 8) Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: tnhillbilly on February 14, 2012, 12:47:54 am Ive hunted em all and caught hogs with all, but if I had to pick between the two, it would be hounds, hands down. But I enjoy hunting with good cur dogs too, but the good ones are few and far between .
Im no dog whisperer nor do I have large amount of time to "train" a dog. This is why the hounds work for me, actually this line of plotts I have now. Just take them to the woods and put them on a track, 6-8 months old, and they go. Im not sayin every hound will make a dog, cause they wont. The hound bashing don't bother me much, cause I know most of the people bashing obviously have never seen a good one. Bit I also respect a mans preference to run silent dogs. Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: D.R.Stuart on February 14, 2012, 01:20:39 am I agree with you 100 %. If your looking for bottom, and good old fashion "Get out from under my feet" hard headed game drive nothing comes close to a well bred Hound........Denny
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: txhogsanddogs on February 14, 2012, 02:36:21 am Well I my self have been a long time hound man love hounds, I personally have hounds I'm a sucker for a big walker, I will back you 110 % waylon you know I will, you will not beat a hound on nose, range,hunt and natural ability hands down best all around dog. I my self use ybmc to run hogs with but I'm not scared to give credit where credit is do. After that quote you might loose a hunting partner! ;) YBM I was thinking more like REPO! Bank note just came due! 8) I'll take over payment! :) Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: ROCKIN ROO HOG DOGS on February 14, 2012, 07:38:30 am LMAO at halfbreed and yellowblackmask.....the puppy "mexican stare off" is a classic! That could be made into a wall poster or a t shirt or something.i love it!!
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: bayed hard hog dogs on February 14, 2012, 08:12:37 am Yeah repo not a chance! But I will say this deep down in the back ground and to this day ol ybm had and still does have a big spot in his heart for a good old American made walker dog his family ran them for yrs. Now I'm not saying that me or him run them for hogs, we hunt what we hunt because thay hunt and produce. And do it quickly and silent but I coon hunt with walkers and blue tics that's just how I do it, not trying to make anyone mad but I have yet to hunt with anyone that is treeing coon or rabbit hunting or coyote hunting with a catahoula or black mouth cur. Thay have all got there place in the woods just don't bad mouth and bash them, just like beagles I have ran and been around them all my life and you will never see a more natural god given talent for running game, you show them a deer or rabbit one day the next day thay will be running there own track, and on the 3rd day they will run it when your in the house sleeping not even around, now the reason is because thay are breed for it, just like hounds you can take any good coon dog and take him to your bay pen and I promise you he will bay the hell out of it if you put out a drag and place the pig he will find it because he is bred for his nose. Just like a lab you can let him run around in the yard but eventually if there is a ball or a stick out there he will pick it up and retrieve it. What I'm saying is thay all have there place and I'm not saying ones better at something but give credit to all.
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: bob on February 14, 2012, 08:19:28 am I run BMC and one CAT- PLOTT , but the best dog Ive had the pleasure to hunt behind was a plott hound silant on track , to much dog for our hunting spots but waylon glad to have you back , RIP ANNY
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Purebreedcolt on February 14, 2012, 08:52:59 am You know why the curs are better for hog hunting because they are smart enough to actually stop a hog and not run it for miles lol just playing. I have a couple dogs with some black and tan in them and just natural hard headed hunters.
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Mason on February 14, 2012, 08:53:14 am I like the way cur dogs look and handle, I like the way hounds hunt and their drive. I like the cur/hound crosses, but if I had to pick one or the other it would have to be the hounds.
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Kessling Kennels on February 14, 2012, 09:10:32 am I've culled way more curs than hounds over ther years.
Redbone male x YBMC cross is where I've found my best. The hound gives them Hunt,range,bottom and the cur gave them the grit. Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: TexasHogDogs on February 14, 2012, 09:11:24 am Lmao after this post is done and finished the Hound breeders will be able to retire with the Rich and Famous!
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Kessling Kennels on February 14, 2012, 09:14:28 am We already have ;D
We are just waiting on the cur guys to show up ;D Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: CentralTex 254 on February 14, 2012, 09:16:51 am X2 :laugh:
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: ROCKIN ROO HOG DOGS on February 14, 2012, 12:36:48 pm Just remember jimbo.....i got my bluetick pup a week before this post fired up.....not a bandwagon jumper but lets see how mant hounds start comin out of the woodwork now!
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: TexasHogDogs on February 14, 2012, 01:02:25 pm Lmao.
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: tnhillbilly on February 14, 2012, 03:39:45 pm LOL. ;D O0 8)
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 14, 2012, 06:00:03 pm " lets see how mant hounds start comin out of the woodwork now! " :D :D
I want to make it clear again, I'm not bashing curs, Hell no body loves a yella dog more than me, except maybe yellowblackmask, I'm just defending hounds cause on ETHD they get slammed a lot unfairly . We all pretty much agree silent dogs rule for hogs, no one argues that point to often. But that mouth on a hound get him in more trouble on here than it really deserves, if he is fast ie July, running walker ect. that mouth is not as big a deal as some think. Hounds run open mouth behind every other animal on earth and do a fine job of catching them. Besides if a silent dog has a hog break bay do you really think that the hog stops and listens and say's to him self " Well I don't hear anything so I'll relax and go back to rooting " I hardly think so. These animals have had to out run bear, tigers over seas and every other killer beast all of which ran silent tracks, hell even stalked like the cats do and the hog gets away many times anyway. Again i'm not saying silent isn't better but if your silent curs get to rangy then there hard to find and your depending on a garmin or the likes, with a hound all you do is find a hill and listen for that mouth. So it's not always so bad IMO. Cur's are smarter dogs it seems, or at least not as hard headed maybe, either way that's the case. all these statements are " in general " certain lines have certain traits, they vary from one line to the next so much that despite looks there not even the same dogs. I want the handle, brains, mouth of a cur with the bottom, nose, feet, looks and drive of a hound. But I want it all with the heart of a pit bull. It's damn good to see the hound get a little respect on here for a change by the way - God Bless, Waylon Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 14, 2012, 06:02:56 pm " Mr. Waylon, I like your fire and I bet if somebody hit you in the head with an ax all they would do is ruin a good ax, and i mean that in a good way with all due respect "
Lance Thanks for the compliment by the way. Should have said it before now- God Bless, Waylon. Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: BarrNinja on February 14, 2012, 06:41:10 pm My favorite thing about hounds are the guys that hunt them! rolleyes Their new spokes person from Oklahoma seems like my kind of people too! haha.
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: TexasHogDogs on February 14, 2012, 06:42:50 pm And These Are The Days Of Our Lives ! LOL
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Mike on February 14, 2012, 07:27:27 pm Besides if a silent dog has a hog break bay do you really think that the hog stops and listens and say's to him self " Well I don't hear anything so I'll relax and go back to rooting " I hardly think so. ...and that my friends, you can take to the bank! We see it almost daily... "dog for sale, opens after hog breaks"... ha ha ha!!! Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: YELLOWBLACKMASK on February 14, 2012, 07:37:22 pm This was the last picture I took from a hound bay!
Guess you can" Tree my Hog" ;D :o rolleyes. LMAO.. OWEOOOOOO YOOOW YOOOW YOOW (http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h450/YELLOWBLACKMASK/1051099348_photobucket_117037_.jpg) Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: TexasHogDogs on February 14, 2012, 07:40:44 pm I never have understood that part of it myself. Once that hog breaks bay he aint gonna quit running till his hoofs fall off are he is just flat stopped. Now the other part yeah silent tracking because if you are a convict and broke out of prison and you make it a long ways away and your hiding out in the thick woods and you dont hear any sirens you gonna take it a little easy and if the cops are quite and sneak in on you you are busted but if you hear a bunch of sirens closing in on you from a mile away you are gonna run like hell putting as much distance between you and them as you can! That to me is thedraw back to me a open mouth hound.
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 14, 2012, 08:29:52 pm You bet TexasHogDogs - That hog might slow up after a while only be pushed if he hears the dog coming off in the distance chopping the track, but if the dogs are that far behind him at that point to where the hog gets the chance to take a breather when they all left the bay at the same time then my dogs are being blown away, or can't run a track gard enough to " push it " be they hound or cur. Now that silent dog, who is usually a cur, because most hounds are open remember, anyway the cur in my experience will drop that hog track and came back in due to lack of bottom after things get tough, be it hog that flat refuses to stay bayed or the distance gets to far away, or they make a loss. Not always of course, some curs will go deep with a hog no matter what, but almost ALL hounds will stick to that hog unless there called off or caught at a road crossing.
It comes down to what works for you, if you feed the dogs then hunt what you like. God Bless, Waylon Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: treeingratterrier on February 14, 2012, 08:40:25 pm Every thing you have stated is true waylon,but it is only relevant to the type of game the hounds were used on,cats coon and bear all species that will tree.....hence the use of loud,trail barking dogs. Its obvious through trial and error for many years that curs have proven to be the superior dog for hunting hogs,due to the ability to run a track SILENTLY! I think any dog man appreciates all working dogs and what they are bred to do SPECIFICALLY,but.........with this being a hog hunting forum,your always going to come up against th tunnel visioned handlers that only like a good hog dog. I myself love to watch a good rabbit dog work as much as i do a cow dog or coon dog etc etc. That being said,you know ive been a passionate yella dog man for years,mainly tolson dogs when i could get them,but just last week i went down the road and got me a bluetick hound puppy to mess with,im not biased and am up for the challenge,hes 8 weeks old and nose to the ground everywhere but i love him and he will get a chance on my yard,glad to see you posting up again waylon,hope all is well with you and the family. Running walker foxhounds are now and will be forever the best breed for hogs, there is not enuff land to run them on as acres have have become small where only a hotter nosed dog like the cur is used, people want to strike a hog asap and bay it asap, they want to go catch another one and do it again and go home, they dont want a pack of dogs running off the small places they are forced to hunt and giving mouth to wake up everybody and cause problems. There has never been a cur dog strain that can cold trail, strike and drive like a running hound. When we first got hogs enuff to have a straight hog dog pack we shocked our wold pack off of yotes and started running foxhounds in the pack with a few curs, we regulary had 5 to 8 miles races and tons of full cry curs and foxhounds on track as we followed them with cb radios, this was in the 60's. Now that land has all been chained and whats regrowth is full of hogs and almost every hog dog pack is a blackmouth cur or catahoula with 2 or 3 bulldogs to have a short race and go home, the days on all night hog races and a pack of running walkers are almost all gone due to land to small and too many people. Running walkers forever, go hunting with a fox or hunter or just to a fox pen if there are any left in oklahoma and watch runnig walkers run 24 hours straight and see what it takes to win a feild trial, no cur can do it, apples and oranges, running walkers did not get any sorrier and curs did not get any better, the land where they got hunted changed and caused this, I still remeber back in the day...... Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Reuben on February 14, 2012, 08:55:26 pm with no hounds or curs/hound crosses...how long and how far has your cur dog pack stayed with a hog? how long will they bay?
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on February 14, 2012, 09:07:58 pm Alright, count me in. I can't take any more nonsense from either side.
I don't care if you have been to the woods with a thousand different hounds, if you have not been to the woods with a single hound that can produce pork consistantly, your jaded opinion doesn't even matter to me. Huge difference in a hound wanting to trail, and a hound wanting to feel hide between their teeth. ;) Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Reuben on February 14, 2012, 09:15:34 pm Alright, count me in. I can't take any more nonsense from either side. I don't care if you have been to the woods with a thousand different hounds, if you have not been to the woods with a single hound that can produce pork consistantly, your jaded opinion doesn't even matter to me. Huge difference in a hound wanting to trail, and a hound wanting to feel hide between their teeth. ;) running to catch...or stop the game...that is a good mindset/trait a hog dog should have... Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Mike on February 14, 2012, 09:26:12 pm Alright, count me in. I can't take any more nonsense from either side. I don't care if you have been to the woods with a thousand different hounds, if you have not been to the woods with a single hound that can produce pork consistantly, your jaded opinion doesn't even matter to me. Huge difference in a hound wanting to trail, and a hound wanting to feel hide between their teeth. ;) Do you own these type hounds? Load them up and head to Texas... cause I'd sure like to see one. Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on February 14, 2012, 09:32:08 pm Do you own these type hounds? Load them up and head to Texas... cause I'd sure like to see one. Mike, Feel free to come down this weekend or next. I'll be camping in a tent. Luckily, I have an extra I'm willing to share. I've got the sleeping bags being washed as I type this as well. Bring your curs, cur-hound x's, and a few catchdogs. When you want to rest yours, I'll drop mine. I'm sure we'll do well with both packs. ;) Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 14, 2012, 09:37:30 pm Cur = good dogs
hounds = good dogs Both crossed = maybe the ideal dog? Mike - Cutter - Bring both packs to Oklahoma as it's neutral ground and I'll judge the hunt ;) Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Mike on February 14, 2012, 09:38:44 pm Do you own these type hounds? Load them up and head to Texas... cause I'd sure like to see one. Mike, Feel free to come down this weekend or next. I'll be camping in a tent. Luckily, I have an extra I'm willing to share. I've got the sleeping bags being washed as I type this as well. Bring your curs, cur-hound x's, and a few catchdogs. When you want to rest yours, I'll drop mine. I'm sure we'll do well with both packs. ;) It's your turn to make a road trip... them hounds need to see some different terrain. We'll drop them together and see how they do. ;) Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on February 14, 2012, 09:45:11 pm No thanks on me taking the long ride. Got 2 kids under 3 years old at home. Between them and the dogs, no travel funds to use. Besides, I've seen curs work. You're the one that was wanting to see a good hound in action. Heck, bring Underdog along for the ride. He and I can talk coonhounds while you listen to my hounds bay. Don't worry if the hounds get to putting it on the Texas crew, I'll box them. I ain't looking to cause no hard feelings. ;D
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Mike on February 14, 2012, 09:49:18 pm No thanks on me taking the long ride. Got 2 kids under 3 years old at home. Between them and the dogs, no travel funds to use. Besides, I've seen curs work. You're the one that was wanting to see a good hound in action. Heck, bring Underdog along for the ride. He and I can talk coonhounds while you listen to my hounds bay. Don't worry if the hounds get to putting it on the Texas crew, I'll box them. I ain't looking to cause no hard feelings. ;D Ha ha ha... ok. ;D They may put it on these Texas dogs... as all I have is an old crippled one and a bunch of young ones, but I would like to see some good hounds on hogs. I've hunted with a bunch and seen very few... may have to head to Florida one day. Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on February 14, 2012, 09:52:09 pm Noah is 12 minutes from my front door so you can meet a few Florida folk. There are several others on here within 1.5 hours. Load up. 8)
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 14, 2012, 09:52:37 pm Mike- everybody knows the "good" Texas dogs all really came from South East Oklahoma anyway, oh and we bred hound into them before we let ya'll have them :D :D :D :D :D
Cutter, I really figured you would have got smart and got some walker dogs by now, ain't you tired of catching skunks yet? Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on February 14, 2012, 09:54:43 pm I've only seen one skunk in the woods. Someone's curs were running it. :laugh:
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Peachcreek on February 14, 2012, 09:57:08 pm (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h152/travis1975/-popcorn-smiley.png)
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: YELLOWBLACKMASK on February 14, 2012, 09:59:22 pm I've only seen one skunk in the woods. Someone's curs were running it. :laugh: ;DHmmmmm. Them curs musta already caught all the hogs in the area! Guess the hounds were busy licking pots....as usual. 8) Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on February 14, 2012, 10:17:07 pm (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h152/travis1975/-popcorn-smiley.png) Sorry Peachy, you can't come. We eat too good down here. I wouldn't want to be the one to make you backslide. >:D Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 14, 2012, 10:23:11 pm " I've only seen one skunk in the woods. Someone's curs were running it. " But the question is were they running it silent or open :D :D
Just kidding, nothing wrong with them blue dog's, white dogs, cur dogs or hound dogs. But I hate lab's for the record 8) Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on February 14, 2012, 10:25:35 pm " I've only seen one skunk in the woods. Someone's curs were running it. " But the question is were they running it silent or open :D :D Just kidding, nothing wrong with them blue dog's, white dogs, cur dogs or hound dogs. But I hate lab's for the record 8) Communist Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: YELLOWBLACKMASK on February 14, 2012, 10:36:54 pm Proof that the YBMC was favored by Christopher Columbus and Sitting Bull over hounds!
(http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h450/YELLOWBLACKMASK/1051099348_photobucket_131101_.jpg) Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 14, 2012, 10:41:47 pm Now see , if that was a hound all you would see of that cat would be it's tail hanging from the dogs mouth, that poor ol cur ain't got enough nose to tell it's even a cat :D
cutter I'm gonna let that one slide cause I know you rode the lab short bus before you jumped on the blue dog express ;D Glad ya'll can laugh a little, beats all the fighting that gets going some times Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: YELLOWBLACKMASK on February 14, 2012, 10:46:33 pm Hahahah noooo my friend that is an early form of what we know now as a "CAT"ahoula. LOL :o
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Peachcreek on February 14, 2012, 10:48:09 pm (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h152/travis1975/-popcorn-smiley.png) Sorry Peachy, you can't come. We eat too good down here. I wouldn't want to be the one to make you backslide. >:D I wouldnt want to witness you running home with your tail tucked under your cheerleader skirt anyway. Furthermore it would probably give your hounds such a complex that they would stop hunting all together after being shown up so bad by them east texas curs!!! :angel: ;) Title: Re: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: sfboarbuster on February 14, 2012, 11:38:57 pm Ohhh gawwwddd, cutter goes out and catches a few hogs one weekend and his head blows up like a balloon! I think I remember the same thing happening around this time last year!
Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: bayed hard hog dogs on February 14, 2012, 11:50:00 pm O boy I see this going into lock down quickly lol y'all better not get to mouthy I think mike has got his hand on the easy button again ( aka delete)
Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: txhogsanddogs on February 15, 2012, 12:00:25 am Mike- everybody knows the "good" Texas dogs all really came from South East Oklahoma anyway, oh and we bred hound into them before we let ya'll have them :D :D :D :D :D Cutter, I really figured you would have got smart and got some walker dogs by now, ain't you tired of catching skunks yet? I'll admit that's were some of mine are from and it's an old line and yes it has hound in them! ;) About to breed them again any day now. Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: hoggcatcher on February 16, 2012, 07:15:47 pm well i have to say the only hound ill hunt is a silent plott the rest are made for treeing and the last i remember hogs don't climb tree's I live on the oklahoma tx border hwy 75 we don't have near as many hogs as you guys do and are hogs run around here but a trail barking hound don't do the trick for us cause the more they bark the further them hogs run they don't go up a tree like a bear or cat so ill stick with my 1/4 plott and 3/4 cur or catahoula's but nothing can beat a good ol cur dog.
Title: Re: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: BarrNinja on February 16, 2012, 07:42:40 pm Ohhh gawwwddd, cutter goes out and catches a few hogs one weekend and his head blows up like a balloon! I think I remember the same thing happening around this time last year! . Haha!!! Heck, can you blame him!? It's a big deal to get one caught with hounds! :o ;DSent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 16, 2012, 07:44:10 pm " I live on the oklahoma tx border hwy 75 we don't have near as many hogs as you guys do " :D
Dear sir if you live anywhere south of ADA then you have 10x the hogs down there that i have up here in north east OKLAHOMA. If you doubt me for a second I'll be home from New Mexico late next week say thursday or so. I can pm you my name and number, you load your dogs, take the short drive north and let's see just how good your 3/4 cur 1/4 plott dogs really are. my offer stands any time in the future if you can't or won't come up this weekend ;) God Bless Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on February 16, 2012, 07:48:14 pm The BoarNinja is back better than ever. ;D
See Nick, you can't kill him. I told you. ;) Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: hoggcatcher on February 16, 2012, 08:20:49 pm " I live on the oklahoma tx border hwy 75 we don't have near as many hogs as you guys do " :D Dear sir if you live anywhere south of ADA then you have 10x the hogs down there that i have up here in north east OKLAHOMA. If you doubt me for a second I'll be home from New Mexico late next week say thursday or so. I can pm you my name and number, you load your dogs, take the short drive north and let's see just how good your 3/4 cur 1/4 plott dogs really are. my offer stands any time in the future if you can't or won't come up this weekend ;) God Bless u can come huinting down here and we have a 12 year old catahoula that will out hunt any hound and never trash Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: BarrNinja on February 16, 2012, 08:44:31 pm The BoarNinja is back better than ever. ;D See Nick, you can't kill him. I told you. ;) I knew a houndsman had something to do with that crash! ;D Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 16, 2012, 09:16:29 pm " u can come huinting down here and we have a 12 year old catahoula that will out hunt any hound and never trash "
yeah that's kinda what I thought 8) If you wish to continue this conversation lets do it via pm's so we don't trash up the board and get in trouble. God Bless,Waylon Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: Corey on February 16, 2012, 09:18:44 pm u can come huinting down here and we have a 12 year old catahoula that will out hunt any hound and never trash [/quote] I live near the Ok., Tx. Border we have plenty of hogs if your hunting dogs can smell them and stop them cause they do tend to run and run regardless of silent or open. Both have there merits, I like both for their purpose....they're not bred for the same purpose, so IMO they really can not be fairly compared. My example... I have fairing rough cur types that most times shut down a hog when they find one, they're hotter nosed bout med range. I also have a hound X that don't hunt very far at all and strikes 2 -3 times more often then the curs, hunting behind them. We'll never stop every hog we strike, so to me its justodds finding more, in the end equals catching more. Is far more enjoyable then a dry run...funny actually his trail barks sometimes sounds like " Hey you missed something, they're over here". But like I said I really enjoy them all.........especially when I pull in from work and everyone of them is out there begging me to say " LOAD UP"! I probably didn't settle the pot any........but felt like sharing. >:D Title: Re: Hounds- The original hunting dog! Post by: hoggcatcher on February 16, 2012, 09:37:36 pm ill hunt with anybody long as the dogs don't trail bark i don't hunt with trail barkers i have the most beautiful walker hound u could ever find and he stays home cause he barks on trail if u take him by himself just u and him he's silent but one other dog barks every step
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