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HOG & DOGS => HOG DOGS => Topic started by: TexasHogDogs on March 01, 2012, 10:57:52 pm



Title: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: TexasHogDogs on March 01, 2012, 10:57:52 pm
I have never owned a Yellow Black Mouth Cur myself but I had a Yellow Cur and he was one of the best dogs I have ever owned my old Ringo dog.   What exactly is the difference in what makes these two different breed of dogs ?


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: YELLOWBLACKMASK on March 02, 2012, 12:12:25 am
Sounds like you owned a Ybmc without the bm. ;)

Same thing unless he was crossed up with another breed. 


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: Boar Collector on March 02, 2012, 12:15:21 am
My Rebel dog is half catahoula half blackmouth. He is solid yellow, but does't have a black mask.


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: YELLOWBLACKMASK on March 02, 2012, 12:22:48 am
My Rebel dog is half catahoula half blackmouth. He is solid yellow, but does't have a black mask.

Then you got a yellow half cat half bmc.

Yellow cur is basically slang for Ybmc.


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: TexasHogDogs on March 02, 2012, 12:43:39 am
Hummmmm I was always under the impression that they were two different breeds of dogs.  Learn something new every day.


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: texasgrit on March 02, 2012, 07:25:24 am
 they are two dfferent of dogs a blackmouth is just that  black  inside the mouth. so you can have a all yellow dog and if it has black inside his mouth. it a bmc. a true bm


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: Randy_P on March 02, 2012, 07:57:37 am
A YBMC is nothing more than a CUR.   There is no difference in Yella Curs and Yella Black Mouth Curs.  Just different "bloodlines"


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: TexasHogDogs on March 02, 2012, 08:40:49 am
Does anybody know the best lines of the Yellow Cur dogs ?  I have notice I see some Yellow and then I see some that looking almost white I myself pefer the lighter color dogs from what I have seen myself just like them better also the ones with the more black inside there mouth the better for me black gums .


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: YELLOWBLACKMASK on March 02, 2012, 09:54:35 am
Does anybody know the best lines of the Yellow Cur dogs ?  I have notice I see some Yellow and then I see some that looking almost white I myself pefer the lighter color dogs from what I have seen myself just like them better also the ones with the more black inside there mouth the better for me black gums .

All personal preference. As for the best line....that has been beaten to death on here without making headway.

Guess I would say the line that best fits your personal hunting and viewing tastes.

Another theory is the lighter ones have more light exposer. Friend of mine has the exact same bloodline but keeps his in a covered kennel and they are four shades darker mustard color than mine.
Example. Sent this dog to him for awhile and he turned mustard colored from lack of continuous sunlight.

(http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h450/YELLOWBLACKMASK/Drifter.jpg)


Title: Re: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: boone823 on March 02, 2012, 10:03:24 am
X2 same breed just no mask.

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Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: T-Bob Parker on March 02, 2012, 11:37:15 am
 What exactly is the difference in what makes these two different breed of dogs ?

Only real difference seems to be a few hundred bucks as puppies


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: ironheadknls21 on March 02, 2012, 07:05:42 pm
I hear them southern Odell curs are a pretty good line of bmc's  ;D


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: YELLOWBLACKMASK on March 03, 2012, 12:52:44 am
I hear them southern Odell curs are a pretty good line of bmc's  ;D

Think they are better suited to kick and cuss.  ;D


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: treeingratterrier on March 03, 2012, 06:27:16 am
I have never owned a Yellow Black Mouth Cur myself but I had a Yellow Cur and he was one of the best dogs I have ever owned my old Ringo dog.   What exactly is the difference in what makes these two different breed of dogs ?
 


A yellow cur is what you call a lost hog dog that comes up from the public road from the grain feild by my house, a yellow black mouth cur is the same dog but not lost and just had a litter of puppies that they ask $1000 each for in Livestock weekly classifeds, think i am kidding, google search livestock weekly and look at the black mout cur pup adds.  I have seen people cross leps and lacys, black mouth curs and cats, and on and on and call the offspring all black mouth curs, then there are the secret breeders who have the real strains of east texas hunting yellow black mouth curs from a linebred strain of hog hunting dogs vs all of the cowdog strains and it goes on and on and on.   a yeelow cur in Florida is usually a bulldog and some kind of cowdog cross depending on who has them and who is selling them or breeding them.


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: TexasHogDogs on March 03, 2012, 09:00:53 am
Well there is no way in hades I would pay a 1000 bucks for a pup a puppy come on man .   But to each their on if the man can get it there is a fool born every second that will pay it . I know a man that has some of the oldest strain of BMC that first come into east tx a good friend of mine.  His great grandpaw and his grandpaw had these dogs then his daddy and now him ole time cowboys is what they are.  The thing about this guy is he is not on the net he is not commercal and what I like about him is he is not KENNEL BLIND he will cross to make better dogs and keep it pure at the same time.  I can go breed to his male are males anytime I want matter of fact I have a couple of gyps he ask me to cross with a male are two he has got and at sometime are another I will sure do it because those dogs are the real deal on paper and in the woods.  1000 bucks a pup I just cant see it myself but to each his on.


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: YELLOWBLACKMASK on March 03, 2012, 09:38:36 am
Had a feller give me a two hour background and pedigree on a six month old Yeller gyp not to long ago. At the end I only asked how much for it and where can I hunt or bay it. His reply was $2,000 dollars firm.

Told him I dont believe you can get that 30 ft stock trailer through my front gate.

He paused for a minute and then asked what I was talking about.

I replied cause that's about how big of a trailer fully loaded with Yeller dogs that its gonna take for me to pay you $2,000 dollars partner.

Needless to say there wasn't a transaction. But I am still curious how good that six month old pup was ;D Maybe if it had been a cull the papers would have made me feel better about spending the money.  :o. Lol


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: 2Kranch on March 03, 2012, 09:42:52 am
sounds like he was tryin to sell a cull and prolly tryin to get 10x what he paid. lol


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: Bar W on March 03, 2012, 10:16:08 am
Even if these dogs/pups are worth every penny and then some the learning curve on hog dogs is steep. Easy to lose your investment to a bad boar. I wouldn't pay that much just for that reason.


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: Boar Collector on March 03, 2012, 03:45:47 pm
A catahoula is a cur dog too. I consider Rebel to be a yellow cur. Black mouths aren't the only type of "cur" dogs. A cur is just a mixed breed dog.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cur


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: YELLOWBLACKMASK on March 03, 2012, 07:58:53 pm
A catahoula is a cur dog too. I consider Rebel to be a yellow cur. Black mouths aren't the only type of "cur" dogs. A cur is just a mixed breed dog.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cur

Well I could see your point except you know his background. That would bring ya right back to a Cat x Ybmc cross that happens to be Yeller.

Guess I would call it a Yeller Cat Cross or a Yeller Bmc Cross.
But I wouldn't refer to him as a Yeller Cur due to the assumption he was full blood Yeller dog.
That's why alot of folks get crosses in their line without knowing it and finding out a litter down the road when they get blue eyed Ybmc.

Not arguing bud just a discussing.   ;)


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: Td3 dogs n hogs on April 22, 2012, 11:30:50 pm
Well the original bmc dogs were un-named farmers just call them yella dogs they got there name from the black around there mouth so I think a dog with a lot a black in his mouth means he goes back to some of the original ybmc dogs cause they got the black mouth gene just like the older ones all had, but the way I look at it all a catohula is is a cur dog that people liked and they kept breeding and got enough of them and started calling them catohulas not saying there not great dogs. I like both breeds. But I prefer yella dogs


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: Hunt the Grunt on April 23, 2012, 08:57:55 am
If i'm not mistaken, the "black mouth" in blackmouth cur is refering to the inside roof of the dogs mouth and not the black mask that most people think it is. The black mask is just a trait that is desired.


Title: Re: ? for you yeller guys
Post by: Miller Lite on April 23, 2012, 11:05:14 am
 What exactly is the difference in what makes these two different breed of dogs ?

Only real difference seems to be a few hundred bucks as puppies
             


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