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HOG & DOGS => GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Big T on March 24, 2012, 10:07:25 pm



Title: Cur question
Post by: Big T on March 24, 2012, 10:07:25 pm
Please don't chew me up for this, but all the talk about working cows has me wondering. Has anyone ever had or seen a cur that was trained like a border collie? How do yall think a cur would do with directional commands and driving? I know this is not how curs typically work, but what do ya think?


Title: Re: Cur question
Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on March 24, 2012, 10:23:05 pm
i don't think i ever seen a head dog worked like a heeler/collie type dog. I guess you could but to me the head dog wouldn't ever perform as well a the collie that was bred to control stock in that style. the only exception maybe being the hanging tree cow dog.

God Bless,Waylon


Title: Re: Cur question
Post by: curdog10 on March 24, 2012, 10:57:35 pm
I work and catch cattle for a living and I have tried a cur dog on cattle and they work amazing at stoping wild cattle or holding a heRd of yearlings but if I am going to move cattle and load cattle alone I like my collies and my hanging tree he has grit to shut down cattle but smart enuf to drive and take direction with him and two border collies I cdma pen 60 head of momma cows with calves. And my dogs are not anywhere near the best but they get used on a daily basis


Title: Re: Cur question
Post by: curdog10 on March 24, 2012, 10:59:38 pm
On the same note I know a gentleman that has 4 curs that will drive and take directions like any collie


Title: Re: Cur question
Post by: jdt on March 25, 2012, 09:48:23 am
to put that much handle on a cur would kill the hunt and drive . the end result would not be worth the trouble it took to get there .

thats what the hangin tree dog was ORIGINALLY MADE FOR .


Title: Re: Cur question
Post by: curdog10 on March 25, 2012, 10:10:02 am
The guy that has those curs has had them since they where pups and they are 4 now and have only had a good handle for bout a year and a half. I like my hanging tree dog they are natural


Title: Re: Cur question
Post by: Big T on March 25, 2012, 11:20:43 am
I'm actually looking for a hangin tree cowdog. Just curious if y'all thought a cur could do the same work.  It would be nice to find a breed that could work the way I need (sort pens, load cattle, etc...) and do some hunting on the weekends. May just need to convince the wife that I need more dogs lol.


Title: Re: Cur question
Post by: Randy_P on March 25, 2012, 09:55:59 pm
to put that much handle on a cur would kill the hunt and drive . the end result would not be worth the trouble it took to get there .

thats what the hangin tree dog was ORIGINALLY MADE FOR .

If the hunt and drive is bred into them and they have it no amount of handle can take it away.  Its called INTELLIGENCE.


Title: Re: Cur question
Post by: curdog10 on March 25, 2012, 09:58:43 pm
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If the hunt and drive is bred into them and they have it no amount of handle can take it away.  Its called INTELLIGENCE.


Title: Re: Cur question
Post by: jdt on March 25, 2012, 10:15:04 pm
well i dont know alot, just what i've learned from people that DO know and what i figured out the hard way  ;)

 to try to " train " a dog to do opposite of what he is bred for will ruin 99% of them .