EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I have a new littler of Rots at my house and i was wondering if they would make good hog dogs?  Has anyone every used them or seen them used for such?

I have seen a few...good hunt and good catch...but don't know about 1 on 1 with a big boar...didn't have the chance to see it...but I would pick a pup with a  shorter coat for heat tolerance and also the leggier hard body type for speed and that should help with the heat tolerance...

One of my big males in the litter had a coat flaw with a white patch on his chest, was thinking of trying him if he didn't sell. 

Not worth trying  ;)

x2...but if you like and keep rotts then go for it...

but I would use a bulldog for catch and a good cur dog to strike and bay...

Most curs don't make very good hog dogs,why start even more behind. Costs money to raise a pup. Get a pair of pups from hunting stock. Odds of one turning out is better.

Everything the Germans came up with is superior in every way!! If you do well with rots, you may turn the hog hunting world on its ear!!! Look at jagdterriers, they are like lil hog stopping honey badgers! If a German dog is that good at 20 pounds, imagine how much better a dobermann must be? And then at 150+ well shoot, I kinda hope you don't try rotties, that's almost 10 times the dog that a jags is.

I've thought about it, but don't have the money, you could have jagds fOr regular hogs, Dobermans for strictly the Russian boars and Rots for your catchdogs. Most hogs would be dead and eaten before you get there

Don't listen to the rest of these guys, hog hunting is a real competitive world, you should talk to someone like L3 who has experience with large breed hog stoppers.

This subject has never come up before rolleyes Rotts have been around for a long time and if they were good at catching pigs there would be people using them. I use them to catch people and they do real good at that. But I would say if you got a white patch on any pup the whole litter and parents are culls. They are an old breed and that only comes up in Rotts that are not pure blooded. newer breeds have problems like that but not Rotts. No pure blooded Rott will throw anything with a white patch.

We had an accidental breeding. Lab x rott. My dad kept a male and female for yard dogs. We play with them in the pen. The male is all bay and the female is all catch. Rotts are lists among the top 10 smartest dogs of all breeds in the world. That may help. Not sure about their build though.ay not be very resistant or rangy.

I wouldn't try one myself. Too many others out there that do well already.

That dude just culled your dogs for you. Lol

Rotts are german cow dogs if any of u people know that! I would us them but no more room an my kennels  I had a friend that had one hell on wheels when it came to hogs that dog was 1 dog team. rcd all the way but he had a high fence to train him in he even blood trailed a wounded hog that a hunter shot ! So they work just takes time !

That's what I was saying!!! They ought to be at least 8 times better than a jagd but the bigger the better so some rots may be as much 10 or 12 times better than a jagd. When I think of all the traits that make a jammed up hog dog, the Rots got em all!

Black so it's stealthy at night
Built the same as a Barr hog
Short nose- because scence of smell is way over rated by American hog doggers
German- cuz that's not American
Disproportionately wide chest- to move brush and limbs out of the way.
Propencity to cur out- when the going gets tough the rot runs off lays down and licks his wounds. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Lol.... Sorry guys but a jag would rip a rotts balls off...anyways a rott was not breed for hogs or the stamina it needs to be a hog stopper....but like I've heard many time it's not the breed it's the dog so give it he'll....

Sound like u had a cull before hunting stock is a must when choosing a rot!

Exactly, see, you just need to go find all the old school line bred rots from all those dogmen who have dedicated their lives to hog hunting with rots.

And of course a jagd could bite a rots balls, they are at eye level. That's why rots are probably the best hog dogs ever, they big. And everybody knows the bigger the hog dog the better.

Now I see the rest of you are to chicken to respond because you know the futility of arguing against rots. They are the greatest of German dogs and none other hold a candle to them especially not them lil pansy jagds.

just to throw this out there, my rotties are not your typical short legged and stockly frame, the are tall and leggy.  They are DNA tested certified AKC registered dogs, I have read all over forums that white patches happen from time to time, it is a flaw and makes them nonelgiable for show, but they are still registered.  I would like to keep the big male I think and give it a whirl, I about a year or so I will update, and give you al a chance to come see him in action  ;)

Try him out, I bet he will work for you. If you decide you don't want him you can send him my way lol good luck man

back in the 1970's I raised a few litters of the heavier boned dobermans and they also would throw a pup every now and then with a white patch of their chest...that patch tends to get smaller as they get older...

if a big hunting dog is what your looking for then a dogo will be right up your ally ! 

Yup, some of the best help dogs on the scene today are dogos. They however are no fit for an all black and tan hog hunting crew. Uniformity and confirmation are the keys to catching hogs.

Just look at nature, you ever see a pride of lions take down a buffalo and see a spotted lion come in just to grab ear? Of course not, that's just silliness.

Help dog? Now you are asking for trouble ;D

Ought to work great if you hunt small hogs in about 10-15 high fenced acreage during deer season when it's cool.

Clearly you have never seen a good Rott or you would not say that. When I had Rotts they were not cheap and they did not have fat. It is the genes and the food. I see so many short fat dogs they want to call a Rott. The ones I had were all business. They are very smart and you can teach them almost anything. They are natural hearders and if raised right will have no fear at all of anything. But that does not mean they will make a good hog dog or not. just because it has papers and is a Rott does not mean it is in the same class as others. I only dealt with dogs bread to be guard dogs and I would bet you have not seen a Rott like them. There are some out there if you have the money.

I just don't know about their hunt. They are a hearding dog not a hunting dog. It is a whole different game. They were used for cattle in Europe. Have you seen the pastures over there? But they are not German. They were brought by the Romans. They were first a war dog. That is the true value of a Rott. If raised correctly they are completely fearless and will die for their master. A war dog may have many similar traights as a hunting dog but they do not have the drive to go find prey like a hunting dog.

So the bottom line in my opinion is that Rotts are great dogs but I don't think they would make a good hunting dog.

April fools.  :D

I had one that was as smart as anydog. What ever I needed her to do she did it to please me. Catch cows, hogs, round up with us although every 20 min rounding up she would take a dip. She was the best dog I ever owned for that reason I would never get another. In my eyes I don't think I would ever get another like that, she set the standard high for that particular breed. If any Rott could do half the things she could they would be a heck of a dog.

when it gets down to the nut cutting most people on here are afraid to think outside the box and try something different. I would try one if it was a young pup. 

Its not all about the pits or curs

And that's fine, it's your time to waste. Maybe you'll roll the dice and win a time or two, but eventually you'll have to cut your losses and get out of the game. It IS all about the curs and the pits & if more folks would dedicate their lives to building the best curs they can instead of trying to reinvent the wheel...

No offence intended, but curs and pits are the backbone of this sport for a reason.

 :D @ T-bob

Too Funny...

Don't listen to these guys I have a Rott and he is about a year and weights about 100-120lbs hell on wheels and catches very hard ear every time hasn't missed yet (knock on wood) I could show you a video of him catching but it is in a bay pen and people on here don't like those videos send me a message if you want to know more try out that Rott!

Diesel my rott
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How many hogs have you had him on in the ~3 months you've had him??

What line is he from? Where his parents used on hogs??

I have has him for more then 3 months got him when he was 5 weeks old and idk what line and his parents are just pets from some random guy in Shawnee and he has been on plenty of hogs if I had to guess probably 15

15 is plenty of hogs?

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Enough to know that he will catch a pig

 Do what YOU want to do ! You dont need anybody elses approval . I think its a waste of time but I could be wrong. Ive seen two that were used on hogs and both of them would put you in a bind because they wouldnt lock when they caught. They would catch and hold for a few seconds and then let go and catch again  and then do it again and again. When a catch dog catches it should stay caught. Old spot might work for you and I hope he does but Im going to go with what I know works. BULL DOG ! Or Cur, Cur cross. Good Luck.

They may work as catch dogs. I have no doubt they can do that. For Rotts do not let them get hurt before one year old. You can ruin one if they get hurt too young. After a year you don't have to worry about them. I bet you can get them to release on command or bring the pig to you. I am not going to do it but knock yourself out if you want to.

rots cur out when the going gets tough. i know there are exceptions just making a general statement