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Thought some of your old bulldog hog dog people would like to look at a little ole history .  I got tons of old old pics.

Here is the last living daugther of Hammonds Pig 10 yrs old I owned being bred to my Ripper dog.  Years ago !
Hammonds Pig was down from Plummers Ch Alligator.
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Here is a daughter of Holt's Jermiah I owned , also the last living daughter at 10 yrs old.  Jermiah was off of Bullyson x Arts Missy .  Also years ago.

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Here is a better pic of the old Jermiah bitch.  This was a massive gyp and one hell of a bulldog.

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I could look at those pictures and listen to stories about them dogs for hours. It doesn't get old.

Very nice. Fine bred dogs! We feed this one. http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=400033 

Mr. Gary is a one of a kind gentleman and had bred many fine dogs.

Last living offspring of the great Boudreax's Boze x Clemmon's Brendy.  I bought her from Jerry way back in the 80's.  She is better known I guess as Clemmons Magdalane.
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This is B.H. with Malony's Ch Bert being bred to Hall's Miss Boobs way back in the 80's . I had Bert for a good long while .  Old time Memories !

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Very nice photos! Thanks for sharing!

Here's another we had that passed on not too long ago...... http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=111776

Nice to see other people with real bulldogs.

Nice bred Hammonds dog MrsLouisianaHogDog.

Here is some more greats .

Back in 1981 this was the only daughter of Butch House's Gr Ch Joker .  I owned her and she was the mother to my old Bruiser dog and the mother to many greats unknown to a lot of folks.

Crystal
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This is Malony's Ch Bert
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Halls Miss Boobs

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The great one himself Gr Ch Nigerino

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I better stop cause it goes on for days and days.

Now the Nigerino dog looks awesome.

Please.....don't stop!!! Haha. We run some heavy Nigerino dogs on our yard. We have a male that looks like he could be a son of Lucifer. Great dogs......

good looking bulldogs ,

mr hammonds has some good looking bulldogs, i was at his house a few months ago an boy he has some well built athletic dogs for sure
my sister had one of her gyps breed to one of his dogs i dont remeber the dogs name though 

Thanks for puttin those pics up Jimmy. I like to see some of those dogs. Most of it is different than I run but I have had some of that stuff at one time or another. I've known ol Hammonds for nearly 30 years and finally did the yard tour last fall. Lot of history there man.
 

You like Nigerino dogs here you go.

Sam off of Cujo x Rosebud-----Rosebud and Black Widow were sisters.
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Ripper off of Thundermatch x Scarlet ----Scarlet was Lionhead x Ada
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Little John Rippers brother Thundermatch x Scarlet
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Lexus she was off of Cujo and I cant remember what gyp but a heavy heavy Nigeirno gyp.
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Old George off of Hootens Pistol x Miss Bolaro hell of a dog.
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Samantha a gyp that was off Joseph x Peg they were both brother sister bred Art x Little Java.  Pure Art x Little Java bitch here.
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Rooster  ----Three times off Hudo what was off of Carvers NightTrain x Carvers Stormy
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Girlfriend pure Llyods Ch Gator and Pistol Pete
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Lacy -----A pure Tonka x Red Barron bitch .
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Jody off of Woods Snooty bred to a pure Mosley Smeller bitch.
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Lol 30 yrs with dogs nets you some pics and some memories thats for sure.

Am sorry this is Samantha she was off of Joseph x Ped who was brother sister bred Gr Ch Art x Little Java.   The first dog up there name Jody is not right the bottom one is .

This is Samantha pure Gr Ch Art X Little Java
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WayOutWest.

Gary is a great great guy and a hell of a dog breeder for years and years.  That ole Pig bitch up there was the last living off spring of Pig.  I bred her to my Ripper dog but she didnt take.    Yeah I figured what the hell all this history and pics might as well show some of it .  We were cleaning house today and I came across all of this with dust all over it lol!

WayOutWest when I see you again I will tell you a story about Gary .

WayOutWest here is some old ones.

This was my Peevo dog he was off of Hughs Ch Gator who was a son of Gr Ch Zebo bred to a daughter of Vindicator which Vindicator was Gr Ch Zebo's liter brother.

Peevo
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Here is a zoomed in pic of him.
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This was my Black Gold bitch she was pure Niriders Bullregaurd who was pure pure Eli Jr.  Clemmons HoundDog and Clemmons Dummy all straight Eli Jr dogs .
Went straight to Dougs house and paid a small fourtune for this bitch.
Years and Years ago .

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Not even gonna say who this is gonna let some of yall guess. 
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Man I'm not much of a bulldog man,  or on the up and up when it comes to their breedings, but if I was, I sure like the look on the Peevo dog.

Beautiful beautiful dogs!!!!! I'd have LOVED to be able to put my hands on some of them!

That Rooster dog......we have a dog here that could pass as his clone!!! I'll see if we have any pics of the boy.

I bet your Peevo dog was somethin else! I love his build.....nice long body, and a deep chest! Nice and athletic.

I own a grandson of the ol' Elliot's Six Bits dog....I'd throw a pic up but you'd laugh. Boy is so inbred....he a goofy lookin sonovagun, but bred to be a producer! I plan to use him for outcrosses only.

Man is it nice lookin at pieces of history. >sigh<

Yup them were the days.   I knew JD Elliott well.  Also seen and knew sixbits daddy Ethon and his mother Majic .  I owned a brother to Ch Shorty who was off of Mo x Rose I got in a trade from JD.  JD and myself done a lot of trading back in the days.  I had a dog called Wild Bill that was off of PushRod AKA Macho x Boudreaxs Miss Killer.  JD used to own a dog called Clyde had some dogs of off him .  The Elliotts Blacky dog was mine and also the Boudreax Rose dog was given to me by JD when she was a young pup that I later on gave back to JD she was the mother to C. Shorty and a lot more famous dogs.  Hell the list goes on and on and on.

Nice ole pics.  I grew up around those type (alligator) down home in the valley.  Got out of it many years ago as a kid.   I did a current breeding to a real nice game champion.  My breeding was done for hog hunting but I can appreciate the work these true bulldogs do even to this day. 
The champion I bred to my white bulldog for a nice battle cross hog hunting action.   
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=329135

Some nice game dogs I like also from BRK where Comino comes from.   

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http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=328517
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=363920

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=380120

If am not mistaken this was my Duley dogs sister hell I cant remember but I sure think so .
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=4119

Roland Fontonot was one of the best dog men that ever lived.

My buddy had and owned dogs from Roland this dog here was one of the best producers ever FONTENOT'S BOOGER   Wooooo Weeee man is all I can say!

What a great great great old dog.  The best !

FONTENOT'S BOOGER
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=4999

TEXASHOGDOGS keep them coming!!!! Great pics there's nothing more I love then talking about old dogs ESP Pits. My family has raised them for years and years down here in Central Florida and there will always be one living at my house getting fed.

That Zebo dog was a SPECIMEN perfect build I really like that Peevo dog of yours they look alot alike. If you have anymore of the Eli or Carver blood please post them! I could look at these dogs all day!

Matt

Did you have any of the Tudor blood around you're yard??? Who is the last pic you wanted us to guess??? I don't think it's Zebo I don't believe he had clipped ears and Alligator didn't have that much white on his chest. Maybee Chinaman ???

Did you have Nigerino on your yard???

very nice picks...but I sure like that nigerino dog...been looking for a while now but can not find a long line of dogs of that style...

does anyone know who has a line of dark yellow or red dogs of this type about 24 inches at the shoulder? looking to put about a 1/4 to 1/8 in some mtn curs.

Matt,  you were real close.  That is the Breuax dog off of Nigger Toby that I bought from Clemmons way way back in the day and Toby himself was off of Gr Ch Zebo.  The Breuax dog was off of Nigger Toby who I bought from Clemmons x Gr Ch Hannah a bitch that I owned and bred Hannah was off of Dana's Nigger who was off of Carvers NightTrain x Carvers Stormy - NightTrain being off of Eli Jr and Stormy being off of Bullyson Eli Jrs liter brother bred to Maurcie Carvers Mendencino bitch and Gr Ch Hannahs mother was Ch Sister which was given to me by L.J. way way back in the day after her Championship .  Ch Sister was off of George Hopkins Gr Ch "Doggy"  Geroge was cripple and in a wheel chair .  Gr Ch Doggy was off of Stinstons Gr Ch Art x Wendell Trussells Bonnie and Gr Ch Art was off of the great Eli jr x Claytons Java.  The Wendell's Trussells dog was a dog that went back to Trussells Dum Dum in which the Ch Alligator dog had a pulling deal with one time.

LJ and me went to Trussells house and bought Ch Sister as a young dog .  All of Wendells Trussells Dogs went straight back to Tudors Dibo they were straight almost pure Dibo dogs some great great dogs.

As far as the Nigerino dogs goes there is sperm  put up at International Canine Genetics on my old Gringo dog wh owas off of Thrundermatch x Ada He is a pure straight Nigerino dog which Nigerino is four times his great grandpa every time in the third generation.

Also there is sperm put up on a old Dibo dog that has been there for over 30 something years  the dog it was put up on is as pure Dibo as Dibo was himself and Am not going to put the name of the dog up here on this board.

An ole time dog man I mean a old time dog man well well well respected and legend once said that the Breaux dog was as good of a dog and maybe even better than Bullyson himself was.  There were five liter mates in the Brueax dogs liter three ch and two gr champions.

Great old days gone by !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Matt I see you said Chinaman .  One of my best buddys owned Ch Chinaman liter sister.

i agree, this is the build i like to see, keep them coming

dang jimmy i could keep looking and reading all day, put up more...

Here's the ped for the Six Bits male I have that I mentioned. He's a nut. Very intense. (This is a littermate's ped) I don't have a Peds account anymore.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=220469

Here's a deceased dog (as of last year, lost him to old age and cancer) that my husband owned. He was off the last natural breeding done of Frisco.
He was an amazing dog.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=258271

This lil' bitch of mine here is turining our to be one HELLUVA catch dog! I just gotta get her to stay focused, but she has a bite from hell.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=395406

Man it's nice to talk dogs!

dam jimmy i aint thought about some of them names in 20 yrs. had a lot of them tonka dogs on the yard back a FEW yrs ago.seems almost every 1 we had was ringnecked.  my last old bitch that we kept for the boys died at 14 yrs old back in 91.still knw a bunch them old boys .aint like it used to be thats 4 dam sure. still have a stack of old papers andbooks somewhere around here,them old Tudor dogs that earl and his brother raised were some of THE best and i guess they still doin it.70 yrs down the line

Yeah I have not talked real dogs in a long long long time .  I got one buddy he is a older man we have stayed in contact over the years .  One of This mans dog is the dog that started out all the Alien/Bullnumber 2 type of dogs she is the ole Queen of that line of dogs her name was Ma.  He knew all the real old men like Tranhan, Tudor , and a lot of the older older men I just missed .  I have a few old dogs put up and been there a long long time just to keep the blood alive one day am gonna go pick up a few of these old blooded dogs just to look at and remind me of what great times really was and what real friends were .  I knew a ton of people and a lot of great people and we had a ton of fun .

MrsLouisianaHogDog 
 
Nice bred dogs .  Boy they bred them tight didnt they !


This is the old gyp I owned .  In Your dogs sixth genration damn man thats a ways back makes me feel old. I can remember it like it was yesterday .  Still ten-fifteen years behind that is when I started out.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=11088

Oh wow! Did you whelp Mississippi Queen?

No Jerry did .  I got her afterwards at the same time I  bought the Toby dog also .   Then Jerry let me take his Cininman bitch and I bred her to a dog called Wild Bill he was off of Kemmers Macho AKA Boudreaxs PushRod x Boudreax Miss Killer .  Miss Killer was a Boze x Bubble Gum bitch.  Most of those pups went up to Canada.

texas, thank you a million times for all these pictures and peds you have shared with us. it brings back memories that as im in california might get me arrested for even thinkin about it. you just mentioned the alien bullstuff dogs and i can still remember a hot summer day visiting jim moore over at ceres cal and seein the white bandit dog  chained up to the front porch of his trailer.i think bandit had one at this time. i was also lucky enough to see the bolio dog alive in oregon when he was a very old dog. did you ever come across curtis mayfield or ken tribes back then.  gary

Ken Tribes sure sounds famular.  Man that sure sounds famuliar I dont know.  My buddy speaks of Bandit alot and I have heard many many storys on him and what all he produced and how the line came down and was put together.  There is a lot of  names I cant mention on here and dont wont to you proably know some of them and none with even a dog now are dead of old age.  Yeah I know what you mean I dont even own a bulldog myself well I got a catch dog out there if you want to call that a bulldog hell I dont even know how he is bred.  I have not had a real bulldog in a long long time.  I put some up here and there and think about them every now and then and really need to get me one are two just to walk out and pet and remember what a real bulldog felt like and bring back some old fun memories.  Hell thats about all we got left  .  I just came across a lot of this stuff collection dust and thought I would put some old pics up what harm can that do know what I mean.  I think I have put about enuff pics on here just enuff to jar everybodys memories .

Thanks again Jimmy. I am pleased to have gotten to meet Bennet and Jerry last fall. Those guys forgot more than most will ever know. Next winter we will have to do a hunt and you can see that bulldog of mine catch. He's gets no style points but he hits like a train. He is down from the Stompanato, Pitres Jim Bob and all the old Carver stuff thru Miss Kim and Little man. BUT he rides in the trailor with all Thomas' dogs and doesn't make no fuss over them. He is all about hunting. 

Yup yup yall are all welcome hell they were just collecting dust .  Got a ton of them over a long period of time .
Yeah maybe this time we get together and do a hunt .  I sure do like that knife I bet I have use it on twenty hogs are so .  It sure keeps a edge and is well built .

 Thanks again

WayOutWest

I need to make one of them ADBA shows its been years .  I would just like to go and see old faces and go over some good times .  Lots of folks over the years.

Take a guess on how this dog was bred ....

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Hard to say in a pic .  Thats like pulling Tiger Teeth.

Bolio

Boomerang

Might even be a Snooty dog ,  head looks to big for that in the pic.

Phillip Sylvester dog ????

Naa, not one of Phillips dogs.... a Snooty grandson heavy Snooty 6xs and 5 or 6 x's Hanna Patch . He was a good one a produced well, head wasn't that big it's just the pic. He actually was built real well and hunted @ 44

Nice dog yeah his head looks real big pic kinda look like a Bolio dog but then again Snooty to.

Hey is Phillip still alive ?

Not sure bout Phill, its been years he wasn't far from me back then but really don't know.

Here is one that came off a male from Phill

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I thought Snooty stuff on first glance. Heck I visited with Phil back in the late 80's and also went down to Dan Almendarez. Found out about that thing you call humidity back then. Jimmy I'm glad to hear the knife holds an edge. Good to hear you're using it. A knife isn't doing any good on a shelf. You just missed the show in Georgetown. It was Easter weekend. I don't think you will recognize many faces anymore, the crowd has changed a bunch.

Hey Bryant...going to call you later about that line of pits...

Ha ha... who the hell is the kid with the bulldog! :o

Bryant were I have seen that picture before?????????   Was that on the cover of the Gazett ????????????????????  Boy it sure seems like I have seen that before????

WayOutWest

Ole Dan Almenderz was a heck of a guy .   Me and W.A. use to go over to Dans house all the time there were a few times when he was out of town we watered Dans dogs for him.  Dan had some great Boomerang dog dogs as well as the Snooty stuff.  The Frank dog the Desperado dog as well as a lot of others I had dogs from both these.

Did any of yall know W.A. Akridge . W.A. owned his own plumming company he loved Zebo dogs he owned Hughs Ch Gator matter of fact the last liter I had off of Toby a son Zebo I bred to one of W.A.'s  Gator bitch she was 97.5 percent pure Hughs Gator these dogs were Zebo from the top to the bottom side to side.  W.A. lived for a long time right down 288 right outside of Houston there was a little place called Hell I cant remember the name of it any of yall know????  I want to say Arcola ????

W.A. was a great friend lost contact with him about 10 yrs ago he was getting in pretty bad health at the time.

WA, was in Arcola. I got a good off line story about that place  ;)

gary fuller

Did you know any of the dogs Indian Pistol, Arki, Indian Bloomers, No Regrets.

I bred the daughter of Blackjack to a dog off that Indian Pistol stuff some years back and produced a hell of a litter. They are about 10 years old now and have earned their retirement. Sadly I don't have anything off it myself.

That is one FINE looking dog

The looks of that dog practically screams Snooty. I just did a wood burning of him the other day matter of fact.

texas, i didnt know the dogs but have heard and seen the names. those were so cal dogs and i never went down there. my timing was off as i got my first bulldog in 72 and didnt get  in with the big guys until76 and about that time cali became a felony intent state.

WayOutWest

I don't know if you know this but the original name of the Indian Pistol dog was
"Goober".  A lot of old old time History there.

He was around 7 yrs old he was a late late late dog but ended up being really good  a lot of the Arts Missy dogs were like this .  He produced some really good dogs.  Also the Red Baby dog she was a liter-mate to Baby Spike and a dog named Jaws I think and gyp called Pinky that RG owned some great old dogs.  The Pinky gyp met Indian Bloomers but was a good good dog .  Just some old time History as I was told years and years ago .

nice looking dogs

Awesome Topic THDs !  I'd like to see some pics of some pics of some  sure nuff Carver bred dogs If anybody has some ?

Yeller you can go to Texas Legacy Kennels website and look for Musket if you want to see a modern day Carver dog.

Thanks !

really brings back lots of memories,we kept lots of carver bread dogs in the 80sand90s had some really nice dogs. last carver dog i had was a really awsome dog. really would like another just for a pet.

Here's a tribute to carver.  I've met some dogmen here in san antonio that had first hand accounts with carver .  His yard was right here in San Antonio and I've heard some nice stories from guys who were young at the time and first into the game back in the mid 60-70's.  Caver died in 79 and I'm sure many people kept his legacy going with his dogs.  I've seen some coming down from pure carver that were nice.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=M4DnGJAMZDw

Ah memories , memories almost brings a tear to my eye.  You young guys better live life and have fun do what you wanna do be cause it sure goes by in a hurry you gonna look up one day and say were the hell did the time go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Its kinda sad.

I am 32.  I have already experienced what you are describing.  Time just keeps on speeding up.  If you ain't livin you diein.

I was fortunate enough a few years ago to be put in touch with a lady in Mico that had some copies of the ring Maurice wore. I bought the gold one and 2 different friends bought the 2 silver ones she had. I didn't even have to size it. It fit right off. I asked Floyd Boudreaux if it was the real thing and he smilied and said "You betcha, I have a couple cpoies too."  That was enough confirmation for me. I never met the man as I got my first bulldog in 79 and I lived 2500 miles from him any way. But I have had conversations with Irish Jerry, Gary Hammonds, Floyd Boudreaux, James Crenshaw and some others and I know it would have been a treat to spend some time with him as he was a colorful son of a gun. I know that Bobby Hall has a bejeweled copy of this ring that I have seen him wear. I just know I treasure mine.

You know there was and still is I guess a ton of people that disliked Bobby H.  But for the most part I think it was people that never really got to know Bobby personaly.  I knew Bobby pretty well and if he liked you there was not a thing he would'nt do for you .  He was a ton and I say a ton of fun to be around always cracking jokes and just a man that you never knew what was coming next.  I use to spend nites at Bobby's house when he lived in Cypress and I can remember driving lots of times while him and Jannet slept in the back of his Bullyson van some how some way I always ended up driving .  We was on our way to Okla. one time and we found  box on the side of the road that contained none other than two pairs of silk Pajama's a Black pair with red lining and a Blue pair with dark blue lining they must have cost some body a ton of money real silk and man we fought like cats and dogs over who was getting what color ended up in Okla at going to a dog show ADBA of course and having one hell of a party at some big fancy motel and when I say party I mean one hell of a party .  Some h ow some way I passed out in that pair of blue pajamas and ole Bobby snapped a pic that I never knew of and some how that picuture ended up at my Mothers mail box and written on the picture was PLEASE MOMMA I WANNA COME HOME AND SIGNED BY NONE OTHER THAN BOBBY HIMSELF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man I looked like hell stoned cold drunk passed out with some ole gal laying over the top of me ahhahahahaahhahahahahaah passed out also !

i have a little bit of carver blood would be interested in purchasing a good bread carver female.  im not interested in anything but the carver or maybe some eli blood .    kerrey 254-967-5614     

can you gus tell me anything about Arms,s carver blood