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Title: catahoulas
Post by: shuttin em down on June 19, 2012, 06:30:47 pm
I've never owned or hunted with a cat so will yall tell me the more about them from yalls experience all inputs would be great


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: SCHitemHard on June 19, 2012, 08:13:34 pm
46 views and no comments, ill be first then. i owned one a good while back and bred him to a bmc and kept a pup and they both turned out real well.


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: ARhogdogs on June 19, 2012, 08:17:48 pm
I owned about a dozen and a half and I culled everyone of em lost several thousand and have been catahoula free for 3 years


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: tushhog84 on June 19, 2012, 08:38:54 pm
you have to be very very picky about the bloodline you get. IMO stay away from the baypen lines and take your time choosing


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: brad s on June 19, 2012, 08:57:19 pm
I have hunted with some good cats before but its been years ago. Me personally my dogs have lil bit of everything in them but mostly ybm and lil bit of hound. I would shy away from the cats these days bc people seem to breed for looks instead of performance IMO.


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: TimmsHogDogs on June 19, 2012, 09:13:49 pm
Alright I guess im gonna be the first person to post something good about catahoula's. My best two dogs are catahoulas and I absolutely love them but everyone is right you have to choose good bloodlines. My male catahoula hunts out between 600-800 yards, and makes loops to check back in occasionally, He is very gritty and catches with my catchdog. He is out of the Abney Bloodlines


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: T-Bob Parker on June 19, 2012, 09:29:59 pm
I had several in the past. First one was my favorite as far as personality, and was a naturally talented dog but I didn't have the ability to utilize his full potential.

Got two of them right now from a real close friend. They are both very talented dogs.
The female is a winding machine and is the most smart-rough dog ive personally hunted with.

The male takes a track and works it well. I like him a lot as well.


The only thing I've honestly seen in catahoulas that I don't like is their home front behavior. All of them I've ever had possessed decent handle in the woods but needed constant reminding to shut up at home. I also don't like dogs who just go nuts on the chain and jump all over me at feed time and that's what ive seen of the ones I've had.

All that being said, the weatherford Ben bred yellows I've had were far worse, I can positivly say that at least the catahoulas went crazy becuase they like interaction.

All in all, I like the current cats I've got


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: BA-IV on June 19, 2012, 09:40:21 pm
I hunted with a fine line of working Catahoulas this weekend.  Seen a dog that just turned two and a 7 month old puppy trail up, bay and keep bayed a 290 lb Barr hog for close to an hour almost a mile from where we turned em loose.

There's some good ones out there, be particular though  ;)


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: Curcross1987 on June 19, 2012, 10:10:54 pm
My cat is my lead dog and has more bottom then any dog I have ever hunted with


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: shuttin em down on June 19, 2012, 10:42:46 pm
He's 4 months old and he seen his first hog today and went crazy the pig was in a pen we took the pig in the woods for a mock hunt and he hunted right behind my lead dog and had his nose to the ground hauling a$$ he stayed with the track step for step with me lead dog and bayed for 45 min with my lead dog but when  we moved locations for a new mock hunt set up he got the scent and trailed it by himself and only bayed 30 minutes


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: mod93dirt on June 19, 2012, 11:00:30 pm
They are just like any other breed. There are good ones and bad ones. I have hunted behind some sure enough cat dogs that get the job done, and behind some cats i wouldn't feed my table scraps to. Looks wise, I really like catahoulas, but it all comes down to performance. There is good and bad, regardless of the breed.


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: Peachcreek on June 20, 2012, 01:02:19 am
I am sure Mike will roll his eyes  :angel: but I am gonna toot my catahoulas horn a little... I have seen him run a track that other dogs pass up and he will find a hog. he doesnt hunt real deep but when he leaves out rest assured he is on one (I kind of like this). Boo so far doesnt have tons of bottom but seems to get them bayed by himself pretty good. For a Find dog I like him allot and he will road further than u want to drive. I guess what I am saying is he his a hot nosed no bottom piece of crap but can road for ever.. but to date has found and bayed more hogs than any of my other dogs. until my other dogs step up to the plate Boo still is the best I have (if you count found hogs) I dont have the honey hole spots to hunt like allot of guys but he can get the hog found if it is close, Now getting them shut down is another story, I typically have a couple black blooded dogs to cast in to the race that will stick with one. My catahoula is by no means a super star or even a hog dog (by some peoples standards) ;) but he can and will find a hog and until I can get a yard full of better dogs he will eat here!! So i feel the RIGHT catahoula can be a good dog in the right situation. I would venture to say if you are in a hog infested place a catahoula will do u good and if the hogs are scares maybe look for something that gets out and hunts deep?? I have heard about deep hunting cats but to date I havent seen them, I have heard they are out there. I am by no means a pro hog hunter but I do like my cats.. I know what my cats are going to do every time i let them out of the box and if a hog has crossed recently I will get a bark. All in all I like like my cats.... THERE I SAID IT twillbanks  ohh and to boot they sure are purdy  ;D
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h152/travis1975/IMG_06931.jpg)


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: t.wilbanks on June 20, 2012, 07:34:12 am
THERE I SAID IT twillbanks  ohh and to boot they sure are purdy  ;D


Ive been trying to be nice.. Do not tempt me to give my input...  >:D  :D


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: SwampHunter on June 20, 2012, 07:55:08 am
Mine don't hunt real far out but , I can tell you when they on a hog , when they through there head in the air an make a few circles an take off you better get your catch dog ready , if my main dog breaks about 400 yards out he gonna be on a hog an is pretty rough will catch most hogs under 125 or so by himself an when another dog gets there they prolly gonna catch , on a small hog he will bark once or twice then catch it


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: TwistedMidnite on June 20, 2012, 09:48:55 am
Don't let twilbanks fool you, I drive by his house every day.  He has a yard full of catahoulas...


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: t.wilbanks on June 20, 2012, 10:24:15 am
Don't let twilbanks fool you, I drive by his house every day.  He has a yard full of catahoulas...

HOW DARE YOU!!!!  >:(


The only dog on my yard with any catahoula in it is Rances' dog, and I keep him hid in very back...    ;D


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: cward on June 20, 2012, 10:38:24 am
I am sure Mike will roll his eyes  :angel: but I am gonna toot my catahoulas horn a little... I have seen him run a track that other dogs pass up and he will find a hog. he doesnt hunt real deep but when he leaves out rest assured he is on one (I kind of like this). Boo so far doesnt have tons of bottom but seems to get them bayed by himself pretty good. For a Find dog I like him allot and he will road further than u want to drive. I guess what I am saying is he his a hot nosed no bottom piece of crap but can road for ever.. but to date has found and bayed more hogs than any of my other dogs. until my other dogs step up to the plate Boo still is the best I have (if you count found hogs) I dont have the honey hole spots to hunt like allot of guys but he can get the hog found if it is close, Now getting them shut down is another story, I typically have a couple black blooded dogs to cast in to the race that will stick with one. My catahoula is by no means a super star or even a hog dog (by some peoples standards) ;) but he can and will find a hog and until I can get a yard full of better dogs he will eat here!! So i feel the RIGHT catahoula can be a good dog in the right situation. I would venture to say if you are in a hog infested place a catahoula will do u good and if the hogs are scares maybe look for something that gets out and hunts deep?? I have heard about deep hunting cats but to date I havent seen them, I have heard they are out there. I am by no means a pro hog hunter but I do like my cats.. I know what my cats are going to do every time i let them out of the box and if a hog has crossed recently I will get a bark. All in all I like like my cats.... THERE I SAID IT twillbanks  ohh and to boot they sure are purdy  ;D
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h152/travis1975/IMG_06931.jpg)

After reading all that. Noah Noah Noah I found your super cross. J/k lol


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: UNDERDOG on June 20, 2012, 10:50:17 am
I am sure Mike will roll his eyes  :angel: but I am gonna toot my catahoulas horn a little... I have seen him run a track that other dogs pass up and he will find a hog. he doesnt hunt real deep but when he leaves out rest assured he is on one (I kind of like this). Boo so far doesnt have tons of bottom but seems to get them bayed by himself pretty good. For a Find dog I like him allot and he will road further than u want to drive. I guess what I am saying is he his a hot nosed no bottom piece of crap but can road for ever.. but to date has found and bayed more hogs than any of my other dogs. until my other dogs step up to the plate Boo still is the best I have (if you count found hogs) I dont have the honey hole spots to hunt like allot of guys but he can get the hog found if it is close, Now getting them shut down is another story, I typically have a couple black blooded dogs to cast in to the race that will stick with one. My catahoula is by no means a super star or even a hog dog (by some peoples standards) ;) but he can and will find a hog and until I can get a yard full of better dogs he will eat here!! So i feel the RIGHT catahoula can be a good dog in the right situation. I would venture to say if you are in a hog infested place a catahoula will do u good and if the hogs are scares maybe look for something that gets out and hunts deep?? I have heard about deep hunting cats but to date I havent seen them, I have heard they are out there. I am by no means a pro hog hunter but I do like my cats.. I know what my cats are going to do every time i let them out of the box and if a hog has crossed recently I will get a bark. All in all I like like my cats.... THERE I SAID IT twillbanks  ohh and to boot they sure are purdy  ;D
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h152/travis1975/IMG_06931.jpg)

After reading all that. Noah Noah Noah I found your super cross. J/k lol

I want to breed to him...I need a hog finder fo sho...

Cause he is pretty, I have seen alot of him....usually in front of the buggy  :P


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: TwistedMidnite on June 20, 2012, 11:21:58 am


HOW DARE YOU!!!!  >:(


The only dog on my yard with any catahoula in it is Rances' dog, and I keep him hid in very back...    ;D

[/quote]Lol I thought rance had his own place now?  He just keeping the dog at your house cause its half catahoula?


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: t.wilbanks on June 20, 2012, 11:29:05 am


HOW DARE YOU!!!!  >:(


The only dog on my yard with any catahoula in it is Rances' dog, and I keep him hid in very back...    ;D

Lol I thought rance had his own place now?  He just keeping the dog at your house cause its half catahoula?
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He closes on it next week... Rocky will probably be there waiting on him the day he moves in..  Im sure hes ashamed of him too.. ;D




PeachCreek, does Boo hunt different if you walk hunt him??


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: Curcross1987 on June 20, 2012, 12:08:27 pm
I had a buddy that would rag on me hunting cats he liked yella dogs so we went hunting and my cat struck his yellas joined in two hours later his yellas came back and hour later he had nothing to say when I turned my catch dog loose on a two hundred pound boar. But every breed has it's dogs and culls


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: Peachcreek on June 20, 2012, 01:34:32 pm
T.wil he will work a couple hundred yards around me and stay real busy when i walk hunt him. I did nothing but walk hunt when i was starting him and the time he spent at mr masons he was walk hunted. That may be why he is the way he is now?? Catahoulas seem to be the black sheep on this board second to dogos. So i thought i would brag a little on mine. The milwakees beast lite had me last night or that post probably would not have been written ;)


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: cward on June 20, 2012, 01:44:56 pm
It ain't cause we don't like cats. Cause I do like them. I think its cause they have been pettled all over the country for there flashy color.


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: t.wilbanks on June 20, 2012, 01:49:48 pm
T.wil he will work a couple hundred yards around me and stay real busy when i walk hunt him. I did nothing but walk hunt when i was starting him and the time he spent at mr masons he was walk hunted. That may be why he is the way he is now?? Catahoulas seem to be the black sheep on this board second to dogos. So i thought i would brag a little on mine. The milwakees beast lite had me last night or that post probably would not have been written ;)

Well I guess I throw my Yeller dog under the bus too then!!  ;D

She hunts about the same.. When we road her she usually stays within 150 yards infront of the wheeler until she gets in sign...
Walk hunting she gets out alittle more and hunts better buts shes consistent either way, so she works for me..  ;)

But she is yeller so that still makes her better than yours..  :P


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: Peachcreek on June 20, 2012, 02:20:42 pm
lol @ u


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: RyanTBH on June 20, 2012, 02:25:26 pm
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The milwakees beast lite had me last night or that post probably would not have been written

Go get you some Miller Lite and that might not have happened... lol Just sayin...  ;)

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But she is yeller so that still makes her better than yours.. 

LOL! That's great!  ;D

But seriously, do ya'll think that is cause they are hunting FOR you and not for THEM??? Cause they both will strike a hog and finish it out right? Does the fact that they will only get out 200ish yards hunting make them less of a dog?

I don't think so, but that's JMO...


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: catmando on June 20, 2012, 02:40:44 pm
Sure is nice to finally hear somethin nice said about cats. I have 3 their mainly blood trackers but aint scarced to catch a hog   


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: Peachcreek on June 20, 2012, 03:01:37 pm
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The milwakees beast lite had me last night or that post probably would not have been written

Go get you some Miller Lite and that might not have happened... lol Just sayin...  ;)

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But she is yeller so that still makes her better than yours.. 

LOL! That's great!  ;D

But seriously, do ya'll think that is cause they are hunting FOR you and not for THEM??? Cause they both will strike a hog and finish it out right? Does the fact that they will only get out 200ish yards hunting make them less of a dog?

I don't think so, but that's JMO...

I think mine hunt short range and hunt for me... I watched my cat on the garmin today trail one off a water hole about 400 yards and bark a few times and as soon as the other dogs got there you could hear a shoat getting caught. I guess he rolled out on momma, boo ran the hog a little over a mile until he crossed a pipeline then he lost it or quit it. I dont know if bottom will come with more age but it is pretty aggravating to see him quit. he is a hair over 2 years old now.  But what aggravates me more is to have three other dogs sitting by the ranger while the sorry catahoula is finding and running a hog by himself. I like the fact he has enough drive to keep huntin when the other dogs have stopped. All in all he made me proud again today just by being the only dog to strike one and the only dog still hunting at 11:00 am in this heat. he is by no means a super star but he tries.


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: T-Bob Parker on June 20, 2012, 04:33:45 pm
I'll tell ya my experience has been that the most talented ones I've seen have been dull black ones or black and tan.

Not saying there's no good high performance leopards out there by any means, I just haven't seen many of the leops that I've liked.

Here is the two I've inherited. I likem.
(http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac192/t-bobparker/4737a78c.jpg)
Bo

(http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac192/t-bobparker/bbe3b204.jpg)
Shinola


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: catmando on June 20, 2012, 05:36:35 pm
My leopard throws black pups does that make her talented.Ive heard the black one supposed to be better workers but its probably because noboby wants to pay for the black pups and they got to get ajob .The pretty spotted dogs got other options kinda like life.   


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: T-Bob Parker on June 20, 2012, 05:47:12 pm
My leopard throws black pups does that make her talented.Ive heard the black one supposed to be better workers but its probably because noboby wants to pay for the black pups and they got to get ajob .The pretty spotted dogs got other options kinda like life.   

I think your exactly right, from what I've seen, people cut more slack to the pretty ones whereas the darkies had better do something impressive.


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: tushhog84 on June 20, 2012, 09:40:26 pm
(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p613/tushhog84/Facebook/My%20Dogs/162812_115284648544200_100001879959190_114999_3686874_n.jpg)
(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p613/tushhog84/Facebook/My%20Dogs/167168_114568431949155_100001879959190_110041_4205292_n.jpg)

these are my two catahoulas. they not flashy but they work.

i have to confess the black ones is only half cat the other half is bmc


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: BA-IV on June 20, 2012, 09:51:16 pm
It doesn't amount to much and people may think I'm full of it but the best Catahoulas I've seen and hunted behind have all had solid colored eyes or glass flecks in em. 

Like I said not much to it but I've noticed it with every real good dog I've seen.


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: tushhog84 on June 20, 2012, 09:54:13 pm
did my pics post. it is showing that they didnt but my computer is acting stupid


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: outlaw hog dogs on June 20, 2012, 10:14:38 pm
It true its not good to bread two glass eyed cats?  Even if they only have one glass eye


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: catmando on June 20, 2012, 11:26:09 pm
tushhog both good lookin dogs but that leppard dogs a knock out is that a natural bobtail?


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: moffittcatahoulas on June 21, 2012, 03:37:42 pm
It true its not good to bread two glass eyed cats?  Even if they only have one glass eye

I try not to breed a pair if they have more than 2 glass eyes between them.


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: tushhog84 on June 21, 2012, 10:31:55 pm
tushhog both good lookin dogs but that leppard dogs a knock out is that a natural bobtail?
im not sure if she is or not some friends of mine give her to me a couple years ago and they didnt know any history on her shes about a four or five year old.


Title: Re: catahoulas
Post by: SouthsFinestFla on June 22, 2012, 06:04:00 pm
T-Bob I like that Bo dog you got there. I feel the key is to finding a strain/bloodline that has proven parents/grandparents that will flat out Hunt.. my buddy has a red catahoula that will stay out 400-500 yards and flat out get it done. There are culls in every breed plain and simple. I have noticed also that the leopard ones seemed to be kept as pets and told how pretty they are , and the solids ive seen hunt well. They one i had was a good dog hunted around 300 yards until he hit a fresh sign but he was stolen last year. I have alot of  Cat. breeders on my facebook that ive talked about purchasing one of there pups and i ask how do the parents hunt? and there answer is they are Beautiful. I will be getting a male  with good bloodlines from proven parents soon that im lookin forward to gettin in the woods   :)