EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I read all the time on here about game bred pits can someone educate me as to what constitutes a "game bred" dog now days? When was fighting outlawed? and how long after people stop fighting their stock does a person KNOW their stock is still "game bred"? it seems like if fighting was outlawed years ago there are a bunch of watered down dogs by now. this is not an attack on any one person I have just seen the term used allot lately. Is it like saying any ole yeller dog is a foundation bred dog? ;D

im guessin the blood line started as a game bred line and from the dogs ive seen on this forum im not gonna tell em different lol guess the only way to test a "game" bred dog now is with a big ole boar hog

Speeding is illegal and if you don't get caught speeding then you don't get a ticket. Fighting roosters is illegal but you see them tied everywhere in yards you really think people just like having there chicken on a chain. ;D  Most of these game breed dogs I know of are still being tested somewhere  ;)  we have to be real careful as we run down fighters as they see nothing wrong with it. Just as we see nothing wrong with what we do.

i guess i could kind of see that point of view as well i not saying im for fighting dogs because im very against it but we send em in the fight hogs or thats what they figure they are doing i guess

i guess i just assumed after Michael Vick got busted everyone stopped ;D

Yup, there's lots of chicken chokers down here by me and I garuntee they don't just choke them chickens for the hell of it.  :D
Hahahahahha

I won't claim to have any knowledge of any dogs used in blood sport, BUT do any of y'all REALLY believe a hog is an adequate test of gameness in a real game dog?

Chance.....I think your half azz crazy sometimes but that's about as spot on as it could be said ....

haha if a hog aint let em catch a big ole bull on the ear

That's bite and heart for sure but it's my perceived understanding that game is different. The desire to scratch back time and time again.

Of I'm wrong or off base can one of y'all (former) pit Men explain it correctly please.

no i think your right about game bein even if they are beat almost to death they are still fightin back and will continue to do so until they die. but ive know a little bull dog that got slung off cut down caught again and stayed caught gettin cut the whole time and held on until the hog was legged i guessed thats considered heart though good bull dog that was the last hog she ever caught

No. A lot of bulldogs that are NOT game will catch a hog.
But IF that same dog got off his chain on a 95 degree day out in the sun and just so happened to run into another bulldog and they tied up for 30-45 minutes , 99% of them will quit. And a lot of gamedogs would too. "Gamebred" don't mean game.

I just got to laugh when I see post on here that think and I don't give a damn if the boar hog is 350 lbs with 3 inch teeth !  This boar hog ain't gonna test number 2 when it comes to a Truly Combat bred Pit Bull .  Gameness is not about how fast you can get it done but how long you are willing to stay !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Whats a hog gonna do test a bulldog for 5 mins till you can get there and leg the hog ?  Some of the rankess number 2 bulldogs can stay that long and catch a hog thats what people dont understand a Rank ass peice of donkey Dung can stay five mins and catch the biggest baddest boar  .  Put him in a [ ] and go 3 1/2 hours in 90 degree heat  then you got  yourself a real true bulldog !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 lmao! What he said ^^

I guess the reason I used the term in my post because it was the term the drunk pilled out indian that sold me the dog used when I bought the dog , he said he was from fighting stock , I told him we dont fight here , we hunt , he caught like a train so I bought him , I dont fight dogs and now that I realize the meaning of the term I aploligize, I luv my dogs and have a Bad A$$ CATCH DOG THE COLOR RED and hes game if you wana go hunting LMAO

I agree that using the APBT on a hog is not  way of testing gameness. I see the term thrown around too loosely on other threads and thats fine when referring to other breeds and thats fine, lets just confuse the term.  Also, I do agree with the hot temps. statement, when you couple that heat with the heating up of the dog during that performance, well, you have a recipe for a dog quitting. The heat just brings the quitting out a lot faster,Im sure that the 99% comment was used as an example and not correct figures but if not  99 percent is a very high percentage of quitters,..lol if that was true, I consider the quality of dogs being used, the conditioning program, and the owner/conditioner.




^^^ I agree fellas....

Alot of folks forget that these dogs (bulldogs aka the APBT), as amazing as they are, are living beings and not machines. They'll all quit eventually, just some sooner than others. The physical body can only take so much.

I second what your saying about the body shutting down and quitting but my half red nose and american pit would die of head before she would let go.. And neither of her parents hunted but its just the heart of the dog that makes her what she is. As far as the orginal question dog fighting has been banded from happening but it still goes on more than you think. Out of the fighting blood line ive seen the are a small frame and not as muscular as a normal pit but. heck im not a scientist so i cant say..

I guess what you are trying to say peach is soon the game dogs will be like the cats! They were once good working dogs but now they ain't worth a chit cuz they aren't being used for what they were bred for? Lol

ok as everyone says "with that being said"  what does a game bred pit bring to the hog hunting world that any ole pit or ab doesnt have? ??? As far as I know (again being stupid about fighting dogs) a fighting dog bites and tries to tear their opponent up.. is there any point in which the dogs bite and holds (like lets say holding an ear)? to me a catch dog isnt fighting a hog it is holding it so why is the "game bred" dog needed ? just my milwaukees best light thoughts on the subject ;D did these ole bad ars fighting dogs hold the other dogs ear until they got tired and tapped out?  ;D

yep casey that is what i was trying to say!!! winner winner chicken dinner for you! but i do hunt my cats!

Lol I had to give you a hard time. I like the game bred dogs cause I like the drive they have to keep going no matter how bad it gets. But have of the people are hanging papers on anything that looks the part so you never really know. And now I've never saw a game bred dog try and fight a hog. Most I've saw would hit like a Mack truck and have one he'll of a bite.

ohh and casey stop calling me my game bred catahooleys aint for sale to you!!  >:D

peachy , if i had known you drank the beast i wouldn't have thought so much of you this whole time  >:D lmao

The true game breed pits have out caught every catchdog I have owned or I have ever caught behind. I had one turn on me and catch me. Backed her up and said turn her loose and she caught me again just like a hog. She never made it to round three. That is when I decided to try and get some of the game out of it and water it down. If you ever have one turn on you I promise you want forget it. But as for as catchdog they are the best.IMO

Good topic Peach, i was gonna crank the same type of topic up. The last couple of months or just weeks the word of the day is "gamebred". I think most peoples are using it to sound more professional, when the bmc's, catahoulas, pits etc. all started they were all gamebred, they all have the knack to hunt or work, some better than others. I consider all of my bay and catchdogs to be gamebred. If they werent created to be gamey then we'd be hoggin with chows, german shepards, and malteses etc. But those breeds  were created for a reason.

I know a few guys that rais them
An I like they have more stamina , drive an can take more heat , i love my little blue pit but his only down fall is the heat , he can't take it as good as I would like him too , we will find out in a few months I got a pup coming an I will keep y'all posted

It brings quality and esscence to the hog hunting sport, and the fact that the APBT is a better all around dog ;D The APBT is not needed, but dont see why it couldn't be utilzed conisdering it posseses the traits that are needed to be an effective catchdog.  Some, Apbt may display diff styles of how they grab the hog, finding that sright style, is up to the person and what he wants his catchdog to do. (I think). And yes, according to prehistoric stories, ther have been "ear sucking"  style of APBT to ride out the wave until the other "tapped out"