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Take a guess how many illegal immigrants border patrol has caught on the ranch I work on in the past two days. I am in southern Brooks county. I will answer tomorrow when I check this out again. Bonus points if you can guess how close most of them were to my house.

124? What ranch if you don't mind me asking?

No ofense but you act like this is a f'n game. Well if thats the case be sure to let me know how many of the guys theyve caught are from the cartel! Let me guess ZERO cause aparently your still postin hahahahaa yeah what ranch you work at lol

for a little bit I thought it was going to be a George Jones song... ;) 149...

1 dollar Bob. Do I win a free car lol.

7 and less than a mile?

35- It sounds like you deal with them quite a bit, that must make it hard to sleep at night knowing you have that many illegials on the property...

45 night before last. 500 yards from my house. 27 yesterday and last night just on the ranch. I told ya my location you don't need to know the exact ranch. Wow in my post I might treat it as a game sorry if it offends you. The only reason I posted this is to inform others who don't live in this area how many illegals are coming through on a daily basis. On a neighboring ranch last week 168 were caught in a day off of one trail. How many trails through the brush do you know of that 168 hogs go down daily?

I'm not at all suprised. A friend of mine's brother is married to a girl who has relatives in Mexico and they have to pay money to the cartel to keep their families safe. One family didn't have the money to pay and there was some sort of mix up as to who had paid and who hadn't paid. Long story short, one of the girls relatives was kidnapped and held for ransom. Apparently this is common in Mexico and the authorities can't do anything about it. This is why so many people are fleeing to the U.S.

Sounds like the Mexican govt. needs to gather a large army and wage war against the cartels. If that is even possible.

This is one reason that we are going to vacation in Florida this year. I wanted to take a cruise to the west carribian but my husband said that there is no way in heck we are going to set foot in Mexico right now or any time in the near future.

 Need some land mines? lol!!!!!

Man that is wild.    I would say need to tie up some scary pits up around place    But hell they'd probably just make dinner out of them       
 

Do they ever mess with you or any of your stuff?

My neighbor went down south welding and said all you had to do was leave water out Side door of camper and that's all they would get?

How many dead have they found?  This time of the year they start dropping pretty quick or get dropped of dead on the side of the road.  I'm just north of you in Jim Wells county.

Well I don't know about you treating it as a joke, but our dang government sure treats it like one.

might not wanna come to fl then  ;) ;D

ha ha it ain't no joke or game . the govt. would have you believe the numbers are down . that;s the biggest lie to date . check out ,TEXAS BOADER VOLUNTIERS [ SPELLING ? ] FACEBOOK OR WEB SITE .  they have game cameras set up all along the texas boarder it's a cryin shame how many pictures they have of our [ secure ] boarders  being violated .

Why? Is the cartel kidnapping people in Florida too?!  :o

I know how many is in Houston 98% lol

                              Texas Border Volunteers  correct spelling  for facebook site lol

i use to hunt a ranch down in south tesas and we had to leave the cabin doors unlocked. I asked the owner why and he said the illegals are going to get in no matter what. He said you can come back to a door that is busted open, that is if you locked the door. or you can come back to nothing damaged, if you leave it unlocked.

^^ suppose to be south texas, not tesas

ive had my ideas about fixing the immigration problem rolleyes

Twenty years ago some good people were comin across just wantin to work not now mainly trash blowin across the border lookin to take atvantage of the American system free medical,food,housing.I hate to sound bad  but ive iived and worked around these noble newly arrives LOL longer than most on here have been alive.Watch thier scams and contemted for this country and any sypamthy you have be gone.     

66 and 300 yards from house

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, number one  health care provider for the great nation of Mexico!

So far this year only one dead..that I have found. Found a few near death and have found some scared to death. My wife has a basset hound that sounds like she is 90 pounds and in the dark is hard to see and pretty sneaky lol

Unfortunentaly from what i have read/heard/ watched on tv leads me to believe that the mexican government is as corrupt as any and has a hand in most of the larger cartels inner workings. Truely is sad.


"the sun is shining somewhere in texas" -Jason Boland

Oh i completely understand what you ment and in know way am i offended but just as DJhogdogger clearly stated  the situation in mexico. I know alot of people who have been killed for the same reason. If you own a business and trying to do good for your family and yourself its very hard cause the cartel will MAkE you pay them a monthly allowance and if you lack in any way,  you and your family are gone in a heartbeat up to brutally tortured in front of one another. Oh i have heard alot of personal stories that i couldnt even think of someone doing such harsh things.  So i can clearly see why alot of people are trying to get away from
the threat to try and better and secure their family. I just dont find it right someone trying to make a joke out of it JMo

Anywhere around the alta vista or altcolorado?

I havent ever been out of oklahoma , I watch the border patroll tv shows , I dont see all the trash they leave as there coming this way , but I do know this , if it wasnt for the mexicans the construction market wouldnt be , no white men or black men will work this feild as a whole , there americanized , lazy, complainers and just plain out suck as workers , the construction market would take a big hit and would be set back years trying to teach a new work force  that are lazy and what I call americanized , the goverment knows this and thats why there hasnt been anything done about this problem , the amegos get a tax return here legal or illegal , so the goverment knows there here but do nothing , they need to stomp out the free checks to the lazy sponges that live here and do nothing , they are everywhere , what happened to the american hard worker , what happened to the guy that cuts his finger and covers it up and works on instead of trying to sue someone for nothing or stays laid up at the house because hes a pu$$, the white and black work force is a bunch of crap as a basic whole , Ive done concrete work for 20 yrs , I have 2 white  boys that I have trained in this time the rest come and go and complain and are trash for workers , [ AMERICANIZED] I do think they need to fix the immigration problem , but kicking out the true family men , hard workers is not the answer in my book  , lets take mexico over , make them a state and they would all be legal , no more complaints , drug test all americans that get goverment help , I do lots of churchs , they all generally have help ministrys , there are always lines at there doors and its not mexicans , its white and black folks looking for a free hand out because there to lazy to work for it , just sit in a chair and beg for help , AMERICANIZED , my sister is the worst at this so this hits close to home , shes 42 and hasnt worked 6 months in here intire life , she has sued eveyone she has worked for , always looking for the next check , going to churchs pulling the cry card so they will pay here bills , gets a 1000 dollar check from the goverment once a month , cant work because she will loose her free goverment insurance , goes to the hospital any time she wants because she dont haft to pay , gets free pain pills so she can turn around and sell them to more white trash, this is the ones that need culled in my book , not the ones trying to make a honest living

I know a man that has family in Mexico...they owned a small store and one day the Cartel walked in and demanded 85% of the profits...and they got it for a year before the store owner just left the store and sold his house to get away from the cartel....they beat him up once when he didn't want to pay and the next time they said they were going to his house and it would be his wife and kids...but the real fix shouldn't be too hard...

My great grandfather used to farm and ranch in Mexico, his mother was Mexican, but when pancho villa took over they took all the land and and everything else they owned since his dad was an American. Not much different than the cartel today. So like i said earlier not trying to joke about it, trying to raise awareness. Since obamma has made it easier for people under thirty to get more benefits its  amazing how many young people are coming across. We find 11-16 year old kids lost and dehydrated daily. Bad enough for a boy, but the trip over here for a little girl is horrible! Our government and mexicos are both to blame.

so please explain the under 30 meaning , is it all mexicans under 30 ? or what are the guide lines of this new obama change ? , I believe he just did this for his vote not to try and help them out

I don't mind the people. They do jobs most people won't. It's our BS govt who has caused the problems. The refuse to handle the situation. They ate playing political games and driving a wedge in our nation.

Bob if you havent ben outa oklahoma dont be judging anybodyelse by trash around you.If you dislike Americans so much go live in mexico they dont want to live there.If there such super humans how come mexicos not a super power.Ithink it was a okie who said if runnin down my country your on the fightin side of me. MR Haggard

people are people..there are good ones an bad ones in every race, gender, an culture...I work with a lot of Mexicans an do business with them too (some are illegals) an its just the same with whites an blacks..you are going to have good honest hard working folks an then you have ones that just need to be culled..people need to realize that there momma an daddy arent gonna hold there hand all through life an the government needs to quit enabling them to do it too! Now im going to get off my soap box

What did Davy Crockett say to Travis when he saw 1500 mexicans approaching the alamo?   I didn't know we were pouring concrete today.... ;D

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Ya... They are building a 5K sq ft house at a place I take care of. Those guys have skills. There was like 20+ guys busting azz. They started at like 4am with light towers and barely got done before it was started to set on them.

We got framers out there now. 6 of them on the crew and they come to work in one Ford Ranger. That's really going green.

Eric, I lean toward your thinking. I like the Mexican people, and I think they are hard workers.I just wish there was streamlined process for them to come here to work legally.

don't forget about the scaffold building and insulation work...  ;D

X2 I don't think I've ever seen a happier group of people not much gets em down at all. I've got alota friends that are hispanic and man o man can they cook! ;D

How many of you people who think imigration is great have been negitivly affected by it and how many positively it will probably have a lot to do with your attitude. The USA is paying a high price for cheap labor.If you think it want affect you your wrong

Immigration has not had a negative affect.   ILLEGAL immigration has.  There is a difference ;)

think about it, this country was formed from immigration... whites took from indians

Im right with you circle C

I work in the oilfield and work with almost all mexicans so I don't mind the mexicans that come over here to work leagal or not but I do mind the ones that are here hiding from what they did in Mexico like one mexican man i worked with was a hitman in Mexico and not many people new this and to meet him you would think he was a nice guy.These are the ones I have a problem with.

Its our govt that has made it a negative. If we would secure the border. Stream line workers so they can come thru the gate not our back yards. Give them identification so they can pay taxes. You have done away with the majority of the negatives.

Man thats another thing i have to admit. As far as working there not scared at all. I work at the plants doing inspection. And i can kinda manage my schedule at work to where on days that i know its gona be hot or cold i can work half the day in the morning when its cool and spend the rest of my day in the office doin "paperwork" but these scaffold builders and insulators wich 95% of them are mexicans are out there 24/7 in the heat or cold all day long with a strict 30 min lunch. As far as our job its pretty flexible our lunch varies from 1hr to hr and a half. And every time i wana b***h about my job i stop and think for a minute and realize how easy some of us got it.

I have worked construction with some good ones and some bad ones. Usually if theyre around for more than a day or so there good ones to work with. We would work 70 hr weeks I would get paid  close to 850 a week doing the same job as an illegal an they would get paid 300 for that week.  They are hard working people and I personally have a lot of respect for someone who is willing to work like that to better themselves and or there families, which was the case for 90% of them. Now if there was a legal way for them to work like this , that is not such a pain in the arse to get, I would be all for it. But at the same time if your working harder and getting paid less than me more power to you. ;D

well. oncle sam has me by the yang and will not let go cause i been PAYIN MY CHIT for over 35 yrs,cant seem to grasp the idea of lowering myself and my WAGES to work like an ILLEGAL .i dont live 12 or 15 to a 2 room house drive 2 work GREEN as some would call it.as many as lives in the 2 room  gets in the van or pickup.workrd all them yrs.ABIDEING by the gov. and ill be dam if i will condone anyone  comin here and puttin me in a bind with THE GOV.just so they can send OUR dollars baCK to that chit hole that theyre lettin get by with treatin em like that,we have our own people that treat us like slaves,DO NOT NEED THE COMPETION

and any one that uses said illegals are the reason all us taxpayers are in the hole and fed up .builders say hire some mexs and you will make money but you have to bid the jobs  for mex prices.BULLFRICKIN CHIT

doubl a double edged sword...customers don't want to pay....builders want to ship jobs overseas....and we expect miracles to happen with the economy ... :o

Tuskbuster your the only one on here that sees the whole picture the rest just dont git it This is not about race its about and invasion  from a forien country.

reuben its not that they dont wanna pay its they got a taSTE of more profit for less money put out,ive worked the ,whites ,blacks,native americans,and yes some are as bout as worthless as can be ,but ill be dam if i will work an illegal,some of my good friends are hispanic ancestry,and they wont even bring their selves ro work that cheap. i still will work an american  for more money,knowin that all his money earned is stayin in the good ol USA,

I agree with you tuskbuster...I believe it is time to shut the borders down for legals and illegals...

Reuben your right  as usual.THe newly arrives (being pc)couldnt work for so cheap if our goverment didnt supplement thier income lonestar card ,medicaid section8 housing.

I personally think we need to fix our country before we let more people in it. For gods sake we have American veterans living on the street, with not a penny to their name. We also have Americans that bust there ass everyday that are struggling to keep their jobs. We need to help the people that are already here & fix our economy before we start letting more people in. Bit that's just my opinion.

It may have been said already.(didn;t read every post) but I have not met a single illegal mex. that cared one bit about american ideals. Most that I have talked to that even know who the president is, like obama.I have said on here before that i respect any man that is a worker.I am however getting a little tired of seeing a bunch of people come in  here who don't care anything about our country or it's founding or it's politics. don't respect our laws language or culture and all...... ( THATS RIGHT I SAID ALL)! Have their wives and family on welfare food stamps and medicaid. (Go to the health department sometime and look it's all or nearly all foreigners there).If we made em stay home they might just get tired enough of their own country to do something about its worthless state of being! 20,000,000 illegals in the u.s. could do alot back in mex land where they belong. My main point of contention about the whole thing is they dont identify as americans. Thats why illegals don't assimilate. They stay mex and act mex. and have no respect for america as she was founded. They change us not the other way around!

Bull shizzle my nizzle. We traded and fought em fr it fair and square. We were even nice enough to give them a guided tour of ther former lands on the way to Oklahoma! They gave up America in trade for far north Texas, seems like we're even Stevens to me.  ;)



Joking

thought i'd share 


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I understand and agree with that some what. Some of them don't want to be Americans. Thats ok. They don't have to be citizens for them to work here. We just need some thing set up so they pay taxes on what they earn here. Where they send the money or spend the money after that is their business.