EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

A buddy of mine bought a young dog that was supposed to be going pretty good and silent on track.. Well he goes good, but barks twice everytime his foot hits the ground! lol  He has been hunting with me a good bit and wanted to get a dog of his own to get started and hunt with mine, but my dogs are silent so i was wondering if there was a way of breaking it. I thought about putting him in the woods with my strike dog where i know there are no hogs and put a bark collar on for an hour or so, and then take the bark collar off and show him a hog??? Any advice?

Going pretty good and silent on track...obviously the guy lied because the dog sure didn't start barking on track because he got a new owner  :D it's a good chance the dog ain't even started, and has probably only seen a hog through a fence but that's speculation.

I don't see much working, because the dog is barking for a reason. It's instinct for him and he thinks he's doing right.  It's hard to change instinct.  I'd be inclined to say trying to change him would do more harm then good.  But if you're not worried or care about ruining a dog, try it all, you might just get lucky.

The truth man let him be. I know its not what you want to hear but i have seen 10 dogs ruined for everyone that it worked on. I have a few silent plotts and a redtick gyp luck of the draw. You can try a bark collar but you run the risk of runing the dog. There is an ad on baydog of a guy going through step by step how he does it. Good luck if he ends up producing and you just cant handle the barking sell or trade him

Well im not sure if the dog wasnt just babbling trying to keep up with my lead dog... I told him i had never heard of anybody having luck breaking that, just thoght i would get on here and get some of yalls advice, and i do apreciate all of yall replying.

You can't.

 It's nearly impossible to break that habit. The best you will accomplish is teaching the dog you do not want him to hunt.

I will not tolerate a dog that opens on track, and that's one that will never make my hunting team, and especially my breeding program.

I feel it's gentic, but can also be a learned habit.

I will not hunt my dogs around any dogs that open on track, either, for that reason.

Another reason to studying bloodlines and choose carefully. MHO

As had been said,....you've been had by a dog trader. How about this.......if you think the dog is going to make a pretty good hog dog,.....why not trade him or sell him to someone that uses open dogs....I'm betting that there's someone on here that would be happy with him. That way you don't try to do something that seems to me to be futile at best, and you don't possibly ruin a good dog in the process. One more good reason to go hunting with a dog before you buy it.....good luck with what ever you decide to do.

Im the same way, i like silent dogs myself, but thats what i grew up hunting around and enjoy. I know ppl that catch a lot a hogs with open dogs, but not for me.

firemedic- i see what you are saying, and i agree on the hunt before buying 100%, like i said my buddy bought the dog just for a started dog i guess is why he didnt get a trial. We carried him the other night to some grainfields we hunt and he stayed busy the whole time, and left with my sd, but was very open, and i caught them before the hog was stopped due to them going on some adjacent property that has very little access.  Well if anyone has any trades let me know! lol

WhAt kinda dog is it ?

Is it just yipping after a hog breaks or is it a sure enough open mouth bawl ? Lots of young dogs that yip on a running hog will quit as they get older, especially if you keep hunting it with dogs that are quiet on track. If it's a full open ball then good luck.

It could be that it was just getting left behind by the other dog. I had a gyp that would do the same thing if we put her out with some faster dogs she opened up but u put her out alone or with pups and u wouldnt her at all till she was looking at a hog!

BMC, and no he's not just yippin....

My main strike will yip after one breaks. But when he does he is right on that hogs a$$ and is prob looking at his hind end. He doesnt do it at all til it breaks and will quit when hog gets ways in front of him. I think some dogs just grt excited when chasin em

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this is one trait that i will not tolerate and its a one way trip to the happy hunting ground .no good for hunting or breeding

Pigrig that is a pretty bold statement to say that open dogs are no good for hunting. Maybe not your choice, but a lot of people on here trying to gain knowledge of all styles and aspects. I never brag on my dogs but I've got a couple yappers that'll prove you wrong.

The only way to stop it is to sell him or give him to someone that runs dogs like that. it has been my experience once they start ,it never stops, you either get more dogs like him or move him.

well said jsh  x2

some dogs when young will open on track and as they get older will quiet down...other dogs will open when they haven't been hunted much and they will quiet down some once the excitement wears off...

   not saying that i havent seen trail barkers catch pigs .the terrain we hunt to say the least is verry tough most of the time with pigs that are well adverse to a dog up its ar... a dog that trail barks gives a pig an advantage it woud not other wise have .my challange is to improve the dogs i hunt with ,and i would still put myself out there by saying a well bred dog shoud not trail bark.

you might can back him off of it a bit just by huntin him with silent dogs

A well bred dog shouldnt bark i guess their is no such dog then. I have seen hounds any bloodline bark on track. I have seen cats do it. Yes i have seen a good number of yella dogs as well from lines like ben and wrights. If im not mistaken ben is best cur blood to most so i guess they arent bred well then. Ever bloodline out here has produced trail barking dogs without fail so according to you there is no bloodline in the world that is good