EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

http://animalblawg.wordpress.com/2011/12/20/a-new-american-pastime-hog-dog-fighting/

Am I inhumane for wanting to beat the living tar out of dumb number 2s like that.  Makes me so dang mad I could bust a dang artery reading that.

X2 I started to say stuff out loud but had to quickly remember I'm at work and let the coworkers know that I was just reading tree higher material against the sport I love...so some asked me to forward it to them and all came up with the same thing I did....bunch of @)"@&"&"&@&€<>>|\~?#

You can't fix stupid rolleyes I had about 12-25 hogs in a trailer and dogs in my truck. A lady walked over and asked where I got the pigs. I knew she was PETA so told her I got them from a trap. She then went over and looked over those pigs real close. She was looking for wounds for the fighting rolleyes Of course she could not see anything because all of the hogs had been caught clean on ear. So then she asked what kind of dogs I had. I told her they were rescue dogs that like to go for a ride. So she went over and looked them over real good. Because of course they will be all cut up from the fighting. But the dogs did not have any wounds either. After she saw for herself the hogs were not hurt and the dogs were not hurt she said the hogs had to be removed even though she was a member of PETA rolleyes

You can't be honest with them because they are so closed-minded. They want to think there is this huge fight every time you take your dogs in the woods. The funny thing is they say they are open-minded. For open-minded people they sure are blind, closed-minded, deaf, intolerant, narrow-minded, obstinate, pigheaded, resistant, rigid, shortsighted, stubborn, and unpersuadable.

I may be uneducated and have a low intelligence but I am far more tolerant than they are.

 D.Blackwell sent the link to me. I read that crap and it made my blood boil that some one could be so ignorant.
"Inhumane" REALLY!!! Let that be your millions of dollars in damages and see if your not doggin your place trying to get the pork off of it.

Hog dog fighting huh? Didn't realize that we command CDs to "attack" hogs and brutally tear up the hog... And to think, this whole time I had thought that we were doing the landowners some good and trying to keep the hog problem at bay... Lol! This is something to watch out for, but at the same time the person who wrote this doesn't have their facts straight and sounds like it as well. How are you going to mention a TV show and then say its illegal to cross state lines to run dogs as well...? ID10T... Little techy term for y'all...

so i didn't see where you guys left an inteligent and polite response to the fact that hog baiting with dogs was banned a long time ago and should not be confused with baying competition where if the dogs caught the hogs they were disqualified and banned from competition . like i did . unless we inform the masses they will take the words of the few that hate us . help try and educate the public every chance you get .

I tried to it would not let me off my phone

It's propaganda and it appeals to people who don't know any better.

The most irritating thing about all of this is the people that are against it have never even been around it to know what goes on to even make those assumptions. They should at least be required to attend and find out what actually happens before they can even write this type of garbage.

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I made my posts and it looks as if plp did too.

That just got my blood boiling. Obviously some ignorant person twisted the truth.

I just left a long comment. I agree with you, people need to comment and give him hell. People like him are the ones i worry about when pictures like i commented on in Bayed solid are printed. When videos in hunting magazines say Dog on Hog fighting or Combat are advertised in hunting magazines.. Just more ammo for the idiots..You seem like a very wise person with a lot of great advice and experience.

            x 2          a dumb @ss   will be a dumb @ss

Charles don't get too excited buddy! Lol! Woosahh! ;D

Lol yeah charles is a little stirred up today

How am i stirred up today????

Lol was talking about ur posts on that page

  I think some comments hurt worse then help...............................

  Come on people, if you are going to comment please do so with facts and in a nice way. No need to fuel the fire. The PETA type people are well organized. That is something the hunting group has yet to be able to do.

I put in my 2 cents. It's educated and to the point I believe. Someone let me know if I screwed up somewhere.

   gentlemen  and you too charles lol  ;D  i said inteligent and polite response . name calling and cursing does not put us in the light we need to be shown in . people that belong to and read these anti sites allready believe we are inbred outlaws and drug dealers . when addressing these people foolish and selfrightious as they are we need to address them in a fashion that should put those thoughts to rest and show them we are just normal folks that are passionent about our lifestyles and beliefs . the undecided folks on these sites will turn a deaf ear to us and our cause if you come off like a mass murderer in your responses .  so please when you talk to these type people be kind and thoughtfull . alot of them really don't have a clue what we do , and once it is explained to them truthfully they will respond with a saying similar to [ i didn't know that ] because they had'nt heard about what really goes on and how these trials work and what the rules were . me i don't give a rat's a$$ about a bay pen but i don't want to see it done away with .  so in closing just be kind and try and educate the people that don't know . don't go down to the level of the people we are fighting stay above them at all times and if you can't make em see the light WALK AWAY .  i love a good fight , but only on my terms .

Halfbreed, i am being normal. Im not gonna be polite to the majority of them. My comments are exactly that, mine. I have learned not to make personal threats of physical harm, but i can hope all i want. I dont turn the other to let them slap that 1 too, i will meet them with the exact same thing. They are the ignorant inbred people, not me nor the rest of yaw on this site. I may not be able to search the web with ease, but 99.9% of the time im not to good to try n look it up, ask and educate myself. Buttclowns such as the 1 that posted and those that agree with out proper research remove all douts of stupidity when they fling bs around like monkies in a zoo. Dub commented that stupid cant be fixed. Sure it can, with tall tree and a short rope. We uneducated inbred outlaw idiots will still be able survive off the land long after them people have died off of starvation

we all need to stick together and help the ones that need it the most .

I thought vegan heterosexually challengeds was bad till I read what Charles said lol

I speak from the heart, well the cold heart i have according to some.  ;D
Im just a regular everyday angel   >:D

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My 7th grade English teacher is one and I showed her a pic of one of my cd's and she said it was the prettiest thing in the world until I told her I use him for hog hunting then she got all PETA on me and stared arguing with me and I just walked out of the class because I was so mad I about hit her then I got in trouble for walkin out of class  >:(

Today? Charles I don't think I have laughed that hard in a while. Yes you came across a bit harsh. Did it sound a bit redneck? Well yes. But I loved it. I was laughing so hard my kids came to check on me. If I ever need someone to back me up I want Charles. He will either not be there at all or in it 100% with me.

 Owwww, shucks dub, you making me blush  ;D

anyone know if its really against federal law to transport your dogs across state lines to hunt?

Well first off since when did we start cutting the teeth off with bolt cutters seriously look at the teeth on that boar that is posted with that article reall maybe they should have searched for a better pic before the went to rambling about something they have no clue about

Before I hit post. I would like to have y'all's opinions on my reply. This is what I have spent a few hours writing, and rewriting, and editing and rewriting....

"I have been thinking on how to approach you on this article for most of the day before replying and can honestly say that I am still having a bit of a hard time deciding upon how I am going to explain this to you but here goes.

First off, shame on you. You publicly and derogatorily criticized a sport and lifestyle that you know nothing about using untrue and biased opinions. My cousin and I have a few different opinions on Hog Dogging, however, thanks to you we did come to an agreement on one thing. There is a huge difference between ignorance, and stupidity. A person who is ignorant is someone who does not have knowledge about a certain subject, but is willing to learn. A person who is stupid is someone who does not have knowledge about a certain subject, and is unwilling to learn. I'll let you draw your own conclusion as to which group you belong to.

Now, we can get down to the nitty gritty. I have used my dogs to hunt pigs with for most of my adult life. I cannot begin to tell you how much money I have invested not only in the best food that money can buy for them, but also in making sure they are vaccinated, wormed, and have the proper shelter and room to keep them happy and comfortable. I have also spent thousands of dollars in equipment to keep my dogs safe while we are in the woods. Collars, Vests, and tracking devices so that I know where each of my dogs are at any given time, and that they are wearing more, and better armor than most police officers do. Do I compete in Hog Baying competitions? Yes, a few a year, and here is why. First, because I am proud to own a few dogs that people admire, and enjoy watching them do what they were bred to do. Second, because it gives me a controlled setting to correct mistakes my dogs make that could get them hurt while in the woods. Now, you made several remarks on the treatment of the pigs that were so off base that it thoroughly shocked me. First off, I have never, ever seen bolt cutters to remove a hogs teeth. What I have seen is their teeth dubbed, or ground down with a file, much in the same way that the dentist prepares your teeth for a crown filling. Second, as previous people have said, we do not willingly allow a dog to ever harm a hog. You are not only disqualified from the competition, but you are also frowned upon and not invited back in many instances. The hogs that are selected to be used in the competition are treated like royalty. They are given the best food, a wallowing hole, fresh water, and shade to enjoy. If you watch them lounging around, they are pretty happy individuals. You very highly incorrectly said that we allow the pigs to be torn up and left to bleed to death. Well, as I mentioned previously, our dogs are not allowed to bite or attack a hog, so therefore why would a pig be bleeding, much less be left in that state to slowly die? I can say with 100% conviction and assurance that not one hog hunter, or any other hunter, is willing to, nor will allow any animal to suffer in such a manner. It is wrong.

You mentioned "attack" dogs several times. I would love to know what you mean by this. If you are saying that the dogs and hogs ignore each other until the dog's owner commands him to attack, unprovoked, then you are very wrong. None of my dogs will even attack a piece of bread on command much less an animal bigger than they are. They catch the hog because they want to, because it poses a threat not only to their own safety, but also to me. They also do not "attack" the hog, they simply hold the pig still until I am able to get my hands on the pig and immobilize it. At that point they should release and allow me to handle the situation.

My last point. You mentioned reintroducing feral hogs into domestic farms. This was the greatest source of laughter for me through the entire article. You see, I know many farmers that raise pigs, and they will all tell you, and any other poor soul,  that they won't take them. They carry diseases and parasites that domestic pigs are not able to handle. Feral hogs are also no where near the same quality as a domestic pigs, nor will they adapt to a domestic situation.

I beg you to do your research, get your facts correct, talk to people that you are so passionately ridiculing before you write another article so bogus, and untrue as this one.

If you have any questions, and would like to calmly discuss anything I have written here, feel free to contact me at rivard_meagan@yahoo.com.

ouut standing response . to any and all sitting on the fence on this debate you give a strong response that was well thought out and addressed the issue at hand . that was an old blog from last year and if anybody is still reading it they could get good sound onfo out of it without being offended . i commend you on your effort . that is why i say youse tact when addresing these people for the most part the followers are good honest people that are just blinded and missled and missinformed by the A.R. groups . and believe what they here and not what they see and those are the people we as a group need to re-educate as to what is really true and what is B.S. it's just like till humanewatch came along these followers thought their money went to help shelters they had no idea that the money was being waisted and due to being educated on the manner tactfully they have quit donateing . post your post and be proud of it .

WTH???!!!

"and the poor creatures should not be murdered" ok lets just let them take over

    but no i forgot we are going to try to WHAT??

They can be humanely captured and reintroduced into domestic farms.

ok from what im understanding is we arnt going to kill we are going to domesticate WILD hogs

go ahead im not taming them down lol!

it's ok to put a dog down in a shelter. every time i go to a shelter it's the nastiest place on earth. small pens etc. I would love to see them start a feral pig rescue shelter.... can you imagine it!................"nice piggy nice piggy aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! help! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!" between spurts of arterial spray. seriously though I've seen hogs that were fed daily for years by the same person and would rip their guts out if they turned their head. bad thing is most won't tame from what i've heard. I't makes me angry soooooooooo ANGRY ! I think someone should invite to see their domestication operation to show them how easy it is to pet a once wild boar with big beautiful majestic teeth!

What a crock of s***

hey i got a plan rolleyes....find out where the guy lives go drop a couple of boar hogs with some nice cutters on them  in his front door  >:D and stand out side with some dogs and see how long it take him to come out screamin for help!!!  ;D

i wounder if that would chang his mind on us southern folk and our way of life?????? 

Man i had this nice well written long response typed out, hit reply and ost internet connection and lost the whole dang thing.  This article aint worth retypin it.  Oh and Tiny, very well written.

I know some wild hogs can be tamed. I had 1 in the house that slept in the bed with me n the wife, i brought her a young boar playmate that was caught in the wild n have him tamed down enough i can almost pet him. Iv takin some adelesent hogs and tamed them down n even had a wild sow that i could let out of the pen and walk her down the county road and she knew her name, knew where her pen was and knew to go in her pen told to. Taming them down from shoats aint hard, just take a lil tlc n time spent with them. Not saying ALL wild hogs can be tamed, but iv gotten 5 outa 7 tamed down enough to handle and accociate with, but all were handled as shoats from racing stripes sized, up to around a yr old.