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HOG & DOGS => HOG DOGS => Topic started by: hansonw on October 11, 2012, 09:52:39 pm



Title: Value of a true cd
Post by: hansonw on October 11, 2012, 09:52:39 pm
Well there has been a lot of discussion about catch dogs lately. Most of us will agree that a true catch dog is hard to replace just like a great strike dog. So that being said what is one worth to you? If you say well I get mine free or there a dime a dozen that's not really what I'm asking. Just put a price on what you feel like your best catch dog you ever had or have is worth or was worth.  I'm talking clean holding and you know when you unsap that dog that there is about to be a caught hog. doesn't wine and knows when it's time to get serious. I know that a lot of people when the sell out or get out of hunting their catch dog is the last to go or doesn't go just because they tend to have a stronger bond with them. It's really hard to say what I would pay for one just bc I rather raise my bulldogs. But I know that a $1000 would not move mine just bc he would be to hard to replace.


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: Scott on October 12, 2012, 06:32:52 am
I'd add one more qualification in there...consistently produces consistency in offspring.

One's that are held to higher standards definitely aren't "a dime a dozen".

Mine aren't for sale.


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: jon on October 12, 2012, 08:57:34 am
wouldn't sell mine


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: SwampHunter on October 12, 2012, 09:06:24 am
Wouldn't sell mine either ,


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: reatj81 on October 12, 2012, 09:16:42 am
Mine isn't for sale but don't offer me a stupid price!


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: BIG BEN on October 12, 2012, 12:07:22 pm
i dont value a cd more than $250 No matter what breed or how bad ass they are. Thats the price id put on mine if i had to sale her.


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: T-Bob Parker on October 12, 2012, 01:02:55 pm
i dont value a cd more than $250 No matter what breed or how bad ass they are. Thats the price id put on mine if i had to sale her.

Well I got one I'd sell for $249.00  :D

I'm just joking around, but I think 250 is a fair price for a Good dog whos job is pretty risky.


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: t.wilbanks on October 12, 2012, 01:34:31 pm
Mine isn't for sale but don't offer me a stupid price!

I'm with Jody!!



Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: W-tate on October 12, 2012, 02:09:57 pm
i put as much value on a true catch dog as  i do a true strike dog   and that all up to the eye of the person  that owns them


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: TexasTransplant on October 12, 2012, 02:33:13 pm
Personally, the one I currently have couldn't be bought, but I wouldn't pay more that $250 for a smart CD, heck you could buy 3-5 at the pound for that much and may turn out with more than one decent to good CD.


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: djhogdogger on October 12, 2012, 02:33:43 pm
 Im sort of two faced on this issue. While I wouldn't sell a good catch dog that works the way I like. I also wouldn't pay much for one either. Mostly because while I feel lucky to own a good one, why would I spend a lot of money on a dog that has a risky job.

If I truely care about a dog but I think that it isn't quite working the way I want or we just don't have the room anymore, I wont sell it, I will give it away to someone I trust to give it a good hunting home.

 I once gave one away that I liked and worked for me to a good friend just to make room for a new dog,  but turned out that he was a one owner dog so we have him back now and he is working as good as ever.

Sorry if I got off track.  :)


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: djhogdogger on October 12, 2012, 02:34:43 pm
Personally, the one I currently have couldn't be bought, but I wouldn't pay more that $250 for a smart CD, heck you could buy 3-5 at the pound for that much and may turn out with more than one decent to good CD.

 
 Sorry, I was typing at the same time. I sort of said what you just said.  ;D


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: Mike on October 12, 2012, 02:52:37 pm
While I value a good catch dog... ability, handle, temperment, etc...

There's no comparing one to a good strike dog... GOOD strike dogs don't grow on trees and a damn sure hard to replace.

But then again, everyone has varying opinions on what "good" is. ;D


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: SwampHunter on October 12, 2012, 03:29:41 pm
The way I see it is a good dog that gives his 100% every time you turn him loose there's no question weather or not he is goin to catch you kno when that snap comes off his collar it's game time cause there is about to be a caught hog , I have hunted with dogs that will catch , but I would t call them good or great catch dogs ,

If you hunted with a few dogs you know every body has a different opinion of what good or great is ,


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: c.hykel on October 12, 2012, 07:08:48 pm
I have always had good luck with my catch dogs. And I never relized and admire him until I had to hunt behind a sorry one. So with that being said I would pay a good bit for one just like him.  But like mike said in my opinion a good strike dogs are hard to come by and a good catch dog will never mean as much as to me as a good strike dog will


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: boarsnesthogdogs on October 12, 2012, 07:26:11 pm
theres not enough money to buy my catch dog his name is beast hes 6 hes smart thats why hes six hits like a freight train dont let go til you rub him and tell him caught hog extremley loyal to the family not aggressice a big baby that is a hog catching machine ive seen alot of catch dogs but not one that would replace him when he goes i will be at a lost in the manner said above if you think about strike dogs r a dime a dozen you might find a dog that will grab a pig but when you find "YOUR CATCHDOG" ther is no value i could put on mine hell die rightt here in this yard


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: JRyanS on October 12, 2012, 07:27:40 pm
About $10, that's how much in gas I'd use going to the pound.  ;D Lol!!!


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: JRyanS on October 12, 2012, 07:34:00 pm
About $10, that's how much in gas I'd use going to the pound.  ;D Lol!!!

I'm just kidding, I understand that a "good" catchdog is hard or a great thing to come by but they're also the dogs that you seem to "loose" more often. So it would be hard for me to put a HIGH price on one knowing he could get killed the 1st time out AS COULD ANY DOG but it would be more likely. Let the bombarding begin!


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on October 12, 2012, 07:37:44 pm
I guess I'll be the oddball here. Any of my dogs here that are working hard for me, have no price tag. I personally wouldn't go the pound route that alot of folks mention, simply because I have enough hard working stock here to breed my own dogs when replacements are needed. If something insane were to happen to me, I still wouldn't even be selling any. They'd stay within my small circle of fellow dogmen/women. Will I sell offspring off of my working stock every now and again should I have a large litter if/when I do have a breeding? Sure. I have a juvenile male up for sale right now, who is just sitting up because we help back a few of his littermates as well and I just feel that he needs to be off the chain and working in capable hands. But most of the time I GIVE pups to fellow hunters who will do right by them and work them. I don't think there's a right or wrong answer to the original question. A dog's worth is determined primarily by it's handler. What may be an amazing dog to me, may be rank to someone else per se'. How much is a CD worth? Well, I guess it's worth how ever much you're willing to pay for it, if you're seeking one from an outside source. I myself would prefer to hunt with/behind dogs that I myself bred.


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: Bo Pugh on October 12, 2012, 08:29:25 pm
i have had several bulldogs but i have had 2 that i could really be proud to own . one is retired now and is a pet and the other one met his maker a few months ago. both was easy handle had none of that whiney bark to them, rode the four wheeler good ,would go to a dog bark no matter how far away and be on ear 100% of the time and it wasnt any guessing about if he had it caught or not he wasnt letting go. when i retired that one a few years back i had another to replace him so i didnt know how valuable he really was. i was given the other dog back at the first of the year from some good friends of mine and when he was killed i realized a good bulldog aint a dime a dozen we had to make due with other $h!T for a while that might catch or might go the other way, you just never knew when you turned them loose. a real good catch dog is hard to beat but to me are not worth a whole lot of money. id say 200 max. you can get by with a crappy bulldog but you wont do very good with a crappy strike dog .they wont ever be in the same category to me.


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: reatj81 on October 12, 2012, 08:54:42 pm
I'm not going to say anyone is rite or wrong,  a pos bull dog can get your bay dogs hurt or killed real fast!   They can also get you hurt just as fast!


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: hansonw on October 12, 2012, 09:26:53 pm
I wouldn't spend alot on one but I wouldnt sell one cheap. Catch dogs do have very risky jobs but not to say it does not or will not but some of the greats die from age or health issues not to a hog. I had one put down at the age of 13 bc of health reasons. his son is now 5. I'm not saying good catch dogs don't get killed because they do but alot die on the yard and not in the woods. I would never spend more on a bulldog than a good strike dog. But i wouldn't sell mine cd for what a good strike dog cost either.


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: bignasty on October 13, 2012, 12:17:24 am
i seen bulldog mentioned a few times what about a dogo?


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: hogdown on October 13, 2012, 02:50:53 am
what a nogo?  lol !!! joke.


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: c.hykel on October 13, 2012, 04:50:05 am
what a nogo?  lol !!! joke.
Oh boy here we go again lol


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: hillcountry on October 13, 2012, 07:56:49 am
I would not pay  10 cents worth of mexican  money for one , dont want or need one . But i do enjoy hunting with a good one. Mike and timmy it was a pleasure to hunt with yours.


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: hansonw on October 13, 2012, 12:52:02 pm
If a dogo pup is $1000 plus I don't want to know what a good one is worth


Title: Re: Value of a true cd
Post by: texasboy4456 on October 13, 2012, 10:19:08 pm
another thing to think about is that a cd is kind of like an insurance policy for the rest of your dogs. i know a lot of dogs that arnt real gritty on a hog until the cd gets there. i think the last thing anyone wants is a strike dog lighting into a hog cause he thinks the cd has it then the cd gets bucked. plus if the cd misses and the bay breaks you could end up loses that hog and next time he gets run by dogs hes a hell of a lot smarter and more dangerous to the whole pack. wouldnt say a cd is worth as much as a good strike dog but wouldnt say theyre just a dime a dozen