EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Anyone familar with the term? I think they were American Bulldogs that were brindle rather than white. At least that's what oldtimers in northern Florida told me. They told me back in the day, you would try not to breed a brindle to a solid white. Anyone know anything about brindle bulldogs and are they still around your area? A fellow in Georgia emailed me a picture a few years ago. Was a black brindle. Real nice dog, good catcher.

she's not in florida but came from down miami way via some cubans  . i still have her half sister here in texas but she's white with a couple brown spots . game as they come to a fault  lol  she went to bcollier here on the board not sure where she's at now

               
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                                         this is her half sister still on my yard

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This is Bull. He's a big baby except for when it comes to a hog and then he's a beast. By far the best bull dog I've ever owned and I've had a few.
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My male and my female.  Not sure why they said don't breed brindle to white. Mine were breed that way and never had problems. I have a few more but these are the main ones.
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I don't think there is any real proof to the claim that they didn't breed brindle to white. Most likely more lore instead of fact in the smoke and mirrors that is the "history" of the AB.

I've owned 2. One is now in the Happy Hunting Grounds and the other I still feed...

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Not a catch dog, but my house dog who lives the life.

i have had both brindle pits and am. bull dogs but the american didnt last long. the little pit is still going just not with me.
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Halfbreed, I have a male that is identical to that white with brown spots you have.  I mean spots are in the exact ssame places too.

I have had plenty of brindle bulldogs, but as far as American Bulldogs go, my "Beef" CD is off of a predominately brindle male named "Tuff." I think his dam was white with red patches/blk nose if I'm not mistaken. Bee's white but has brindle freckles on his ears.

Here's my dog's sire
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Here's my dog "Beef" whom I've posted here before
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As fars as brindle bulldogs go.....
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http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=911857

Got this one on my yard right now and it goes back to the old performance line brindle American bulldogs off Leclerc but I assume you’re talking about the old school southern brindle bulldogs of early days pre-American bulldog history.  I really don't know if the old timers and "myths" are actual truths especially since I don't live in those southern states (Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, etc.) but I'd like to hear about any stories myself concerning the type you’re researching.  Whether factual or not it makes for interesting reading.


Here's another one of the brindle american bulldogs I got on the yard coming off similar stock
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 http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=1047244


I think most here think brindle bulldog and post pits.  I've had my share of those too over the years and consider them bulldogs in every sense of the term as well.       

Well I call them all bulldogs. That's just  how I refer to mine. Now if they were papered I would say my am or  apbt but there not so they are just bulldogs to me.

halfbreed im from Miami you know the fellas names?

My two that I mentioned above...first is Tigger (passed)

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This is Blade, the one I'm still feeding.

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man that tiger is nice scott.  what did  he come off?

hansonw the brindle with red collar barking in pic with solid brindle face is built nice.  good looking animal.

Americanlegendz ...those 2 brindle bull dogs are awesome...I like that brindle male with the black mask but the female is just as nice...

beans i didn't get to meet the cubans . i got the dogs second hand . a man i bred a dog to  knew them and after they moved up here the cubans couldn't keep the dogs and gave them to rene and rene gave them to me  . rene was a goucho from argentina . i do know i had to teach them both english after i got them  lol

Thanks to all of you guys for posting such great pictures. I am no bulldog historian, but here is what I remember what the oldtimers told me back when I lived in Florida and visited southern Georgia. First off, not one of them ever used the term American Bulldogs. The most common name was White English bulldogs. I heard this in both Florida and Georgia. I did also hear the name Old Timey Bulldogs in Alabama and Country Bulldogs in Georgia. As for the brindle ones, I think they they were thought of as not as pure as the white ones because it was common practice to cross a plott hound with a white bulldog or a pitbull. Maybe that is the reason why some said it was best not crosss white with brindle (although this was done all the time). Not sure on that, only a guess. In Georgia it was also common to cross pointer or some type of bird dog with a bulldog. A friend of mine who lived in Oklahoma told me he too heard the term brindle bulldog and old timey bulldog while living there. The real old timers never heard of foundation breeders such as Scott, Johnson, and Painter. The size of the dogs varied depending on the region, some region being known for larger ones (90 pounds), some regions for smaller ones (65 pounds). One of the foundation dogs of both the Johnson and Scott bloodlines had a lot of red brindle in him (white too) and his name was Mac the Masher, a catch dog from Alabama. Like I said, I am no historian, just interested and could be wrong on some of this. Never llived in Texas, so I don't know squat about your dogs.

Juan, Tigger had a cold pedigree. I sure wish I could have got something off of him before he passed. Just didn't work out that way.

Bud Harding has one of the best looking brindle A.B.'s I've ever seen. HUGE! Tries to eat me every time I see him, don't know why. Lol Anyway, don't know if Bud frequents site. Ill see if I can get a pic.

Can't really see the brindle in these pics but you can see his size, lol.

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I appreciate it. She is one long legged well built athletic female for sure.

I got him from the pound and they said he was Mt cur but there aren't too many 70+ pound Mt curs around so at best he is mixed. Looks like some bulldog to me. I'm in NW AL. I doubt this is what you are looking for but I think he's pretty so I'll show ya anyway. He can tree a squirrel though. He has caught 3-4 pigs too. Straight catch so far but nothing real big. I'm not really a hog dogger. I'm a squirrel dogger who comes across pigs from time to time.
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