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HOG & DOGS => GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Izz on November 04, 2012, 09:48:11 pm



Title: Shot dog
Post by: Izz on November 04, 2012, 09:48:11 pm
Here recently i had an uncle mention to me about 2 pit bulls geting loose ocasionaly by his house. Never had a complaint though he said these dogs were very well manered dogs. Never showed agression at all. Well i believe it was like the 3rd time they got out of the yard and were roamin the neighborhood and a local citizen was riding his bike. Well the dog being a dog chased the man riding the bike in a playfull way with no signs of agression what so ever. Well somehow some way the local Alvin authorities get a call complaining about the pit bulls chasing people agresively. When cops arrive to the scene, i was told by a witness that the pit bull was roaming around peacefully not meaning no harm in any way and when he got near the cop he shot it in the face. Luckily the dog was able to live. Well days later i see an old high school friend post on facebook about her dog being shot by the local authorities and sure enough it was the same story my uncle mentioned to me about which he witnessed
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Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: UNDERDOG on November 04, 2012, 10:41:02 pm
I'm sorry the girls dog got shot but folks should keep there dogs put up and moreso bullbreeds..  There is a blue n white APBT running round here for a month or so, he ain't aggressive but scares the kids at the bus stop and all the folks around here keep stopping to ask if it's ours and we don't even own a pit.  I called animal control as we have a good relationship just to keep them off my azz.  Law enforcement aren't trained to deal with dogs and most are scared, I don't agree with it getting shot but they should have been contained.


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: Reuben on November 05, 2012, 05:45:21 am
I'm sorry the girls dog got shot but folks should keep there dogs put up and moreso bullbreeds..  There is a blue n white APBT running round here for a month or so, he ain't aggressive but scares the kids at the bus stop and all the folks around here keep stopping to ask if it's ours and we don't even own a pit.  I called animal control as we have a good relationship just to keep them off my azz.  Law enforcement aren't trained to deal with dogs and most are scared, I don't agree with it getting shot but they should have been contained.

I agree, the bad thing about some pit bulls is that once they fire up they usually don't quit...just one that will do that from a thousand is too much and that negative publicity we do not need...


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: Justin on November 05, 2012, 06:19:43 am
I use to work at the sheriffs office and if i had a dog run towards me in a agressivee way i would pepper spry the dog. Pepper spray hurts but will not kill or wound a dog.


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: chestonmcdowell on November 05, 2012, 06:39:09 am
Man I hate that. Pitbulls have the worst Rep.


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: cantexduck on November 05, 2012, 07:13:21 am
I'm sorry the girls dog got shot but folks should keep there dogs put up and moreso bullbreeds..  There is a blue n white APBT running round here for a month or so, he ain't aggressive but scares the kids at the bus stop and all the folks around here keep stopping to ask if it's ours and we don't even own a pit.  I called animal control as we have a good relationship just to keep them off my azz.  Law enforcement aren't trained to deal with dogs and most are scared, I don't agree with it getting shot but they should have been contained.
   
         Would you feel the same if the neighbor shot your cur off a bayed hog on his land ?
 Here in Florence the city cop shot two dogs months back. National media was all over it. Cop shot both dogs on the owners property.  I wish law enforcement was trained a little more dealing with dogs. The money saved from law suits would offset the training costs.


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: dodgegirl on November 05, 2012, 07:39:51 am
I bet if it was a lab or another breed it wouldn't have been shot. I hate Nap, its not right.


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: dodgegirl on November 05, 2012, 07:40:36 am
Hate Bsl.... Stupid auto correct


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: Izz on November 05, 2012, 07:53:48 am
Thats one main reason i figured that they didnt hesitate to shoot it was cause of the bad rep pit bulls have already


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: charles on November 05, 2012, 09:14:58 am
There are less lethal ways to handle loose dogs. If training cost is the reasoning for not able to deal with dogs, then it boils down to common sence. If they r responding to a loose dog, how much common sence does it take to step out of the cruiser with spray in hand? If a cop cant be trained to be prepared, then they r in the wrong job. They need to be more flexible n able to adapt to situational changes w/o using an excuse of (i wasnt trained for this).


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on November 05, 2012, 09:43:55 am
Hate to say it......but as someone who has to fight BSL to keep my right to own my bulldogs......PEOPLE NEED TO PROPERLY CONFINE their dogs! Friendly or not! Bottom line, responsible ownership with ANY dog......if you care about your dog, confine the darn thing! It's really not that hard! ESPECIALLY a bull breed! Us bulldog owners especially should know better. We know how our dogs are discriminated against! Sounds like the LEO made an ill decision to shoot that dog in that case, BUT.....if that dog wasn't roaming free, he'd have never been put in that position to be shot in the first place! I hope her dog recovers well, and that she learned something from the ordeal.


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: cward on November 05, 2012, 10:31:42 am
I,had handled to pit bull calls for the sheriff's dept. In both cases the dogs were bad.  I knew how to handle them and was able to restrain both dogs in both case's. But did the dogs need to ne shot in both cases yes they did. Did I shoot them no . The dogs were properly put down. If it was to happen on my place yes I would have shot all four dogs.


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: UNDERDOG on November 05, 2012, 06:51:54 pm
I'm sorry the girls dog got shot but folks should keep there dogs put up and moreso bullbreeds..  There is a blue n white APBT running round here for a month or so, he ain't aggressive but scares the kids at the bus stop and all the folks around here keep stopping to ask if it's ours and we don't even own a pit.  I called animal control as we have a good relationship just to keep them off my azz.  Law enforcement aren't trained to deal with dogs and most are scared, I don't agree with it getting shot but they should have been contained.
   
         Would you feel the same if the neighbor shot your cur off a bayed hog on his land ?
 Here in Florence the city cop shot two dogs months back. National media was all over it. Cop shot both dogs on the owners property.  I wish law enforcement was trained a little more dealing with dogs. The money saved from law suits would offset the training costs.


"Would you feel the same if the neighbor shot your cur off a bayed hog on his land ? "

Mike,thats a whole nother ball game...my main point was that folks should keep there dogs contained ...of all breeds, but bull breeds are gonna catch chit and not get the benefit of the doubt very often. I bet my big black Striker dog would get shot in the city if he were runnin round barkin as big as he is he could scare people.  I didn't say it was righ nor do I agree but it is what it is....keep you dog put up to the best of your abillities and if you have a continuing problem fix it.


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: cantexduck on November 05, 2012, 07:38:32 pm
Bryant ,
  You are right. Apples to oranges. I agree with you.


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: dub on November 05, 2012, 07:59:45 pm
When I see any bully dog out I go check for a number on the collar. I have chained a couple by the street so anybody driving by can see the dog. I have always had large dogs that people were scared of. They don't have any reason to be scared but they are. I keep my dogs in a fenced yard and most kenneled inside the fence when I am not home. I do leave a couple out that will protect but not run out of the yard. I have still had a couple times that a dog got out of the kennel and out of the fence. My dogs have my cell phone number on their collars and my neighbors have my number. Right or wrong people will shoot a dog because of how it looks. Prejudice is fine when it is a dog in this world. If your child was being chased by a dog would you wait to see if it was going to bite? But it is because of people's fears that I will stop and get any bully I see. If it is too aggressive I will call animal control. If nobody comes and get the dog within 24 hours I call animal control. Because I am not going to bring any stray dog inside my yard. I will keep them safe but only by the street. Where I live they can pick up any dog that is on a street or sidewalk not on a leash or has access to a street or sidewalk. That is why I put them on a chain by the road but they can't get on it. I only have had one person come to my door saying I stole his dog. I explained that I saved his dog and the dog was by the road so he could be seen. The owner turned out to be a good guy and I helped him make his yard able to keep his dog in.

If I knew the girl I would go over and do a fence check. Let her know what to do to keep the dog in her yard. It is the only way to keep her dog safe from people. It is easy to say the cop should not have shot the dog when we were not there. I almost shot a bulldog I was trying to help when it ran at me. Turned out he was just playful. But when a dog is not in its own yard the dog is the one that does not have the right to be there. I am glad the dog is ok.


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: charles on November 05, 2012, 08:05:13 pm
 so them german shepards that run around with a badge on are fare game too? them dogs are more aggressive than most bully breeds, but yet its an felony to shoot them, but its ok to shoot any ole' dog that could or could not be aggressive. wow when did the cops stoop down to a dogs level? i know that cop that shot the dog aint smatter than the dog he shot.


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: dub on November 05, 2012, 08:11:23 pm
so them german shepards that run around with a badge on are fare game too? them dogs are more aggressive than most bully breeds, but yet its an felony to shoot them, but its ok to shoot any ole' dog that could or could not be aggressive. wow when did the cops stoop down to a dogs level? i know that cop that shot the dog aint smatter than the dog he shot.
That is what really pisses me off. Don't get me going on that or you will think I hate cops. But it is the lawmakers that I don't like.


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: chestonmcdowell on November 05, 2012, 08:11:59 pm
I love thebully breeds except the ones that are unsociable to humans or animals those are the bad ones. I almost had to shoot a to shoot a female pit a couple years ago on Christmas day. She was trying to tear down my fence to get to my Jack russles and when my dad tried to scare her off she jumped.   At him. She was running around with this huge bulldog that wouldn't hurt a fly and was just a big baby. It just scared the $hit out of u when you saw him headed your way.  One day my Jack tussle got in the yard with him and he looked scared to death of my Jr


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: charles on November 05, 2012, 08:17:37 pm
Dub, i agree with you. It aint the cops themselves, but the idiots that pass the laws.
When did we raise the statute of animals to that of humans? I thought the bible said GOD gave man dominian over the animals of the land, fish of the sea and birds of the sky, either the lawmakers see them dogs as equal as humans, or lowered mankind to a dogs level.


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: dub on November 05, 2012, 08:21:31 pm
How about that guy that caught an eighty pound octopus with his hands. Divers saw him hit the octopus. They called the game warden but he had not broken any laws. Now he and hs family are getting death threats. I guess even an octopus is worth more than a person.


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: charles on November 05, 2012, 08:25:16 pm
Dub, its geeting ridiculous with the stupidity of most who scream for constitutional n human rights, but yet want to throw the good book out the window when it is in their favor. This country was founded on the values from the good book, but are now being trampled by anti-americans


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: Stick on November 05, 2012, 09:24:03 pm
What is the law on shooting a dog? I know you can protect your livestock but a friend of mine had a gyp shot last week that wasn't doin nothing, they were penning cows and turned loose by the gate getting horses ready when this gyp ran across the road to the neighbors they rode off thinking she would follow then heard a shot, rode back and find her dead ten feet from the fence, the home owner wasn't there but the guy staying there said she had been chasing his cows for a hour, what could he do if anything?


Title: Re: Shot dog
Post by: dub on November 05, 2012, 09:49:16 pm
Let the guy know that you know he is full of ^%$. Give him an honest price for the dog and 24 hours to pay. When he asks what will happen in 24 hours just walk away.

I take trash breaking very serious. If you call the law it is your word against their's. But if you know your dog did not do anything then handle the situation man to man. I know I would go to war over my dog getting shot but not over the money. So on the other side of it would the neighbor want a war over the price of a dog? If you killed one of his cattle it would most likely be the prize winning best cow he has ever had. Be honest and fair. We all make mistakes but a man steps up and makes things as right as he can.

I have a dog that I would ask for a bag dog food. I also have a couple that are worth more than some cattle. Just be honest and stay calm. If you get mad you lose so stay calm.