EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

... the cause of which is the idea of SECESSION of those states who no longer wish to partake in the corruption of our great nation that is recent government, specifically the Obama regime...

... as for the constitutionality of the idea... "Bottom line: There is no law forbidding or allowing secession. If TEXAS OR ANY OTHER STATE decides to secede, the resulting peaceful separation or war will depend not on law, but on the will of whomever happens to be Commander-in-Chief at the time. "

... I now present to you, the Untied States of TEXAS!!!!

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm192/aprilcmetzger/UnitedStatesOfTexas.jpg)

It is time to take our great country back from the carpet baggers... those who see the fruits of hard work and attempt to sneak in and steal it from those who deserve it... in the name of an supposed "majority" of parasitic constituents whom do not deserve the great PRIVILEGE that is inclusion of this great nation.


... I am REALLY intrigued by this idea, and I hope yall can help me fill in the details of the State by State petitions that are in the works...

 noah, its about time u relized tx is the place to be.  ;D

Fundamentally, I am a Texan at heart... I just refuse to give up the state that I love, Florida, unless I absolutely have no choice...  Let's just say, if Texas were the only state to manage sucession... I'd be moving my family to Texas right quicklike ;)

Atlas may be about to shrug

Louisiana is in the works thanks to a gentleman from Slidell LA. There are some names on the petition from Maryland and New York. Its almost certain that it will not happen. Lots of factors come with that decision and one state can't do it alone.

So who is leading the petition drive on a state by state basis?   I would LOVE to be involved with this one...

In this "Republic of Texas", I would nominate Ron Paul as president... Mitt Romney as Vice...

I haven't heard of any other states as of 3 o'clock this afternoon. Last time u checked the petition from louisiana had 18000 signatures and needs 25000 before December 7th to move forward.

even though I hope for it to happen with no bloodshed... i dont think it will happen at all. I don't think anything will come of it, except for one of obamas puppets to write a long response of how we cant do it. If any state has the power to secede it would be Texas. I think it was due to the agreements made during their annex. Regardless of the outcome I signed at around 2:00 today and emailed the link to a few strong rightists at work with loose fingers lol. Louisiana will is a bit over 20000 now and will be above 30,000 this time tomorrow.

Post the links to the petitions if you can

 as of just a liil bit ago, tx has nearly 40,000 signatures.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions

My question is if you want to succeed why would you have to ask who you succeed from if you can? Some of y'all older guys please answer that question.

Well I think that is excatly what Obama wanted and was his goal from the get go four years ago to break this country apart .  I think this would play right into his hands that hates the USA !  This is a great great nation and needs to stay the same it just needs a house cleaning from top to bottom .  

Thanks Charles and its bigger than I originally thought. Excuse my ignorance

I think Obama is playing with more than one deck of cards !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cleaning house for some strange reason has a murder charge associated with it. Hell the shark n gators need feeding too

Thats what she said.  ;D

I believe it is more a show of solidarity of our own, than permission from anyone...  testing the waters of "reality" to see who is willing to stand against communism.  I am all for the secession, SPECIFICALLY the PETITION numbers to show the REALITY of what this country's PRODUCING class wishes to do.

its been said that a house divided against itsself cannot stand .

i say it comes a time when the house should divide so that one side CAN remain standing .

so u would allow a career political thief to continue to be a thief? why not elect a common man to lead the new country and he keeps his regular job and does political work for free as did our forefathers.

Charles, we need professionals to help with the solution, not necessarily at the front... but certainly as a primary resource to provide resource to our cause.

Here is the petition for Florida.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-florida-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/D87Rv7yJ

"The Republic of Texas" is an intriguing thought. A WHOLE LOT of details would have to be worked out. We would immediately lose - the Army, Airforce, Marines, Coast Guard, FBI, DEA, Air Traffic Control, All federal departments (Agriculture, Health, Transportation, Highway, etc.). Man, there are so many others. Social Security and Health care are a biggie. What happens to all the old folk and disabled who rely solely on those programs? Where does Mamaw go when a family does good just to support itself? Could Texas manage the task? It's over my head to understand but I think if we could and do, it's still a long ways off. Wouldn't we have to develop or base infrastructures first? That could take years. What happens in the mean time? A paramilitary government maybe? That would have to be the case I would think. Man, lots of details.

U r very right noah. We do need proffecionals, but we dont need thieves. Romney made a career as a thief, ooops, i ment politician. Oh they r both in the same. Honestly though, why not elect a proffesor of politics from some big college, instead of a career political figure. Atleast the proffesor possibly has some formal knowledge real work

Oh, another thing.... And it's sad to say because I've lived in Texas 39 out of my 43 years so that's where I'm seeing it most, obviously. There are so many young guys that have no interest in joining the Military. We would have to have a MAJOR push for recruiting. Maybe even a draft don't you think? Charles?

Kevin, u bring up some extremely good points, but i would giv up my disability in a heart beat to see texas its own country. With all the military bases there are scattered from the gulf up to the candaian line, the feds couldnt keep them and im sure there are current or recently seperated service members that would sign up for a new gov militia n the same manufactures that currently sell to the us gov, would sell to the new formed texas gov just as they do to forgien militaries. Instead of a new tx, it should b a newly formed us. Why do we need the fbi, dea, atf n them other alphabet gov orgs? I do agree that there should be a mandatory service just to become a citizen, if they choose not to, then send them packing n then strenghten our border security and make illegal crossing a strong punishment, ie: a consentration in the far north similar to the camps in siberia during wwII n make it a labor camp.

I think the military would fill itself with the new management and new found hope. I think financially we would be slow but within a year or so we would be one of the wealthiest nations with all of the industry, refineries, drilling and having the mouth of the mighty Mississippi. Problem is we would be subject to attacks right off the bat unless the democratic states of America offered protection until the south has a stable and strong military.


My local news station posted about the petition on facebook. They are giving the Louisiana petition the attention it needs to fill up fast. I looked down in the 250+ comments and the gubment is doing exactly as it wanted. 50% of the comments say it is a bad idea and they want their freedom... Kind of contradictory if you ask me. Then 49% are scared... Saying the people who sign are the ones Feds will watch closer and some are saying those who sign will be in camps hahaha. Of that 99%, 100% of them say Louisiana is dumb Nd they would move out... See ya! The other 1% say that it is a good idea but for some reason the petition is steadily getting signatures.

 kevin, in order to generate money, opposite of the current dea regs for drugs, the newly formed country could legalize waky-tobacco, taxing it just as with alcohol and regular tobacco. a lot of the things that could generate money are outlawed by our benevalent communistic gov. agreed that some should not be allowed, but no matter what, its gonna be grown, manufactured, distributed and sold. why not legalize it and put the money into the country.

Charles, like it or not, successful BUSINESS is what ENABLES a people to create/sustain a government to thereby protect it's interests... and allow a people the LUXURY of arguing about it's intricacies....  taking the initiative to procure these "workhorses" and direct them in the interest of the people would be extremely advantageous to the cause.

As for being put in the "camp" for signing such a petition... the motherF#CKERS  better bring thier A GAME when they come.

I'd move to Texas if it was to happen but I don't think things are bad enough yet to make enough folks stand up. I'm only 37 but I understand where this country is going. It's sad. So many people have served and died for what we have. It pisses me off to see unmarried people with 5 kids and no desire to provide for them. Did I say it PISSES me off. No country can sustain this. I can barely afford one. Why should I pay for Shanequas' kids ? Why pay to jail drug dealers ? A bullet is much cheaper. These 2 issues cost our country a massive amount of money a year. It's a darn good thing I ain't king cause a lot of folks would be taken out of the gene pool. Sorry for the long rant.

Well noah, if ya need a place to hide out when they come lookn for ya, u n ur family got a place here. I got 3 spare rooms.

I appreciate it brother, chit hits the fan, I'm damn sure headin' to Texas.

Noah, make a stop in south la on your way to the republic of tx and we'll run hogs, drink beer, and talk about the day that the gubment thought we wouldn't stand and fight.

So my question is....

Does anyone think this is feasible in our current situation and does anyone think there is even a remote possibilty of this happening in the not to distant future?

HELL YES MY BRUTHA  ;D

Feasibility is dictated by the NUMBERS presented in such a PETITION.... THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHERE WE STAND.

This country was built on hopes and dreams. What would it hurt to try? The worst that can be said is NO, n then we take their blood n our freedom.

Im not sure if i have the quote correct, but here goes. In the words of the great sir william wallace
They may take our lives, but the will never take OUR FREEDOM!!!!

.       X2 I agree with this we need to get the word out like social media tv and radio stations to let as many people know about these petitions as possible

   Texas Nationalist Movement   on face book and web , been working on this since the last election .

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/12/15117305-petition-for-texas-to-secede-from-us-reaches-threshold-for-white-house-response?lite

An expected bull$hit response... The next step would be to mobilize a public front to FORCE government media to recognize the reality of a patriotic movement of solidarity.   

A planned "Secession Rally" held at every community courthouse would most certainly garner the attention of mass media.

Feasible:  No.

Remote possibility:  Faint

Not to distant future:  No.

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2012/11/close-to-17000-have-signed-we-the-people-petition-asking-white-house-to-allow-texas-secession.html/ (http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2012/11/close-to-17000-have-signed-we-the-people-petition-asking-white-house-to-allow-texas-secession.html/)

I find it interesting/strange that Rick Perry has come out AGAINST this idea. 

That is interesting...

Very interesting read, RL.
Perry dont support it bc he knows he wouldnt get the newly formed countries presidency. Noah, i fo agree that the new country would need a strong elected body, officials with experience in politics, but also with the understanding they work for the people, not the other way around as it is currently with this dictatorship.

I don't see it happening, but in the same breath,  I wouldn't be surprised either!   I think all it would take is for Obama to make a major bonehead move and do something major like a big step in gun control, taxes, shut down drilling!

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-city-austin-texas-withdraw-state-texas-remain-part-united-states/TDD212hQ

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/wh-petition-calls-stripping-citizenship-and-exile-anyone-who-signs-petition-secede_663282.html

i elect noah and charles to run it  ;D

Yeah if you think it is gonna happen without bloodshed you must live in another world . You talking Major number 2 here not playing marbles with the neighborhood boys .  Be ready to back all the talk up if and when it comes calling .  Sometimes less said best said !

run what?

I'll back everything iv said. I would rather fight and die for my freedom and the freedom of my kids than to live in tyranny from the dictatorship some would call our government. as lance said, i would rather get it over with while my son and daughter are to young to pulled into a war between the states and the government, if it ever come to it. our children need a future of peace and liberties, not all out gov control. this used to be the land of the FREE and the home of the BRAVE, now its the land of freeloaders and home of nothing.

I would not doubt it happening.  But the American people have not suffered enuff yet most go on with their every day lives not lifting a eyelid as long as their every day lives are not effected much they could careless.   When this country goes really broke and bankrupt,  the gas and fuel gets so short are so high you cannot buy it and the food on the table is so short you cannot feed your own family and when this country gets hungry and sick then and only then will you see something like this start to happen untill this country goes hungry and the everyday lives of the nations people is disrupted in a big way then you will see it till then its a pipe dream.  Its gonna take a lot more than just a few 100,000 people to get it started and done when people start rioting and it becomes uncotroable thats when the real number 2 is going to  hit the fan .  It will take a long time to restore order and restore a goverment that means anything those are not short term kind of deals .  People better think long and hard because once it starts it aint gonna be no stopping and the way of life you know now is gone and is not coming back no time soon.

Just my thoughts.

 mr jimmy, you are 100% correct. its gonna take around a million just to get started, with millions more to fight and die, but atleast it will be in the name of freedom, not the name of bend over and take it.

This petition is simply meant to make everyone involved THINK.

The REAL question is, "at what point is it necessary to stand up against a government not acting in the best interest of it's people?".

Do we allow the government to burn it down, all the way to the ground before we act... or do we step in before it is too late?

Maybe this is the moment to do something, maybe not... but we all need to consider REAL options should the government ever decide to cross that line.

Very well said.....

Republic of Texas

Ohhhh, NO. Im a foot soldier, an enforcer, not a politician. Yet.

If you're not mad enough yet, watch this. Got it from a friend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL-a-r7iJIU&sns=em

 well, whats new? another government housing recipient trying to screw somebody over. its all about him, its all about obama. they must be related, along with other millions of idiots who voted his dumb a$$ back in office for another chance to bend whitey over the rain barrel and ram it home. i just want to thank the stupid 1s for another successfull chance of more raping, plundering and pilaging the americans that actually work to support theirselves and family, and on top of that, supporting d.dc and their families and ALL the freeloaders and ignorant supporters for tha welfa ck. i just wants somethun free bc my great X10 ainty shamika's own family sold them into bondage to spainards, but he!!, lets blame whitey for us being uneducated freeloaders with 5 babbies moma. a typical unsuccessfull abortion