EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

its in the making rite now, me and a friend are building a 50 acre training pen, were also going to have 5 feeders and a pond and a road that goes through it to train hood dogs, we will open it up to the public , im thanking about charging 10 dallors a dog for 3 hours of hunting and if you catch and kill  the hog it will cost 150 for the hog.  also ill being doing hunts for kids and other hunters that just want to come out and shoot one off a feeder. ok tell me what yall think. we will have a lodge to stay in and tie outs for the dogs for over night stays

Sounds pretty dang good for training pups Monty. I'd pay a visit or two. When's it gonna be up?

Sounds awesome Monty. Call me when u start building, I'm sure you could use a couple Mexican hands lol.

Thats a good idea and at an affordable price. Would there be an over nite fee even if lodging wasnt used?

Sounds good , where you gonna build it ? If you need some help let me know

were building it off i 20 north west of stephenville, xmas week is when were starting the fence and hope its done in 7 days , for anybody that wants to help me and chris out it would be nice, but we will charge 10 dallors a night if you stay in the house per person. if you want to help call chris 940 659 8983 and he can line you out on what he has got going on, thanks guys

the 150 per hog  is that catch and kill only   what if u just catch it and releaase it back in there ?

shoot id make the drive down to see the place ;D O0

I'll help you need that'll be perfect to train my pups

w-tate that price is if you kill a hog you have o buy it , as long as you turn it loose you just pay 10 dallors a dog for 3 hours, and if you want to hunt another 3 hours then you just pay for how ever many dogs yur going to work.  we will be doing hunts in here bow gun dog hunts and feeders will have lights on them. we are also going to put some 300 + 3" teeth hogs in here for some trophy hoghunters

i see   i was just wonderin if i was  to bring young dogs let them hunt catch a pig   then release it   i wouldnt wanna pay no 150 for a hog anyays   but i like the 10 dollars a dog for 3 hrs 

 what bout just poping a tent up for a night or 2? i will call chris n c what all yaw will need other than bodies as far as help.

Monty,

just something to think about.  If you have a lot of dogs coming and going from the one place and from people you don't know that well I would be very careful about disease control e.g. parvo.

Troy

Monty, the road thru the middle is great but with only fifty acres you might want to put the road around the outside perimeter.  it will make it easier to check the fence for damage and give your pups more hood time before they bail. hopefully if you make enough circles the dogs will jump and go to the center and find the pig.  oh and yes i would deffinetly like to train pups there! I also agree that proof or vacinations is a good idea. Both for the dogs and hogs.

Nice idea Monty...having somewhere to train dogs is hard to find.

road around it and down the middle, and we have thought about deseises . but i dont no wat to do about that just yet.

Couple thoughts. Cousin has a 38 acre pen back home in south Texas.

Don't skimp on the fencing material. Saw a 200lb boar last year run right through the "field" fence like it wasn't even there. Might be cheaper to build a tight 5 wire and overlay it with the field fence for extra support.

Other thing is I have personally witnessed a hog or two jump right over it.

You probably already know this, but cap the corners cause they will climb out.

Might want to build a few one way trap doors in the fence line too.

Good luck.

I have a 4 acre woods pen and just used 4' goat and sheep wire on it with single strand of goucho along the bottom. So far nothing has gotten out i have a 250lb boar and a 200 lb sow in there now that have been in there for a couple months. I heard to round the corners or put a cap on them but i didnt and so far no problem. I think as long as they have feed and water they really dont have much of a reason to try to leave. Good luck

thanks jeff, we are using a heavy gage wire and rounding the corners,       im hoping with the 4 feeders and the pond they will want to stay

I don't know much about where u live but I have a bad problem with pine trees falling on mine.

we have oak trees and sticky trees and briars

Nice idea and priceing wish the was one down here north of houston like that for pups

That sounds like a good way to for sure get pups started. Good price and decent sized pen. Only problem I could see is gonna be to many oeople showing up to work some pups on a sure thing. Could turn into full time job .lol
Should work out great with all them pups ya got on the way though.
 

I did the same thing I have about 56 acres hog proofed with the lock tight wire i don't have much problems with hogs getting out I basically use mine for personal use now mainly cause I got tired of no shows good luck it's a handy thing to have

im going to work on more hunts for handycap kids that need a little help, and some hunters from up north. the dog training will be done to but ill fine some kind of system that might work

If that Chris guy would get off his butt and the get it done we would have a good place to go to work pups

X2!!!

cscott im coming down and putting a cattle shocking prod were the sun dont shine, lol. if you get some help from every body that says they will come out. then it wont take long.

when the pen is done we are having a puppy training party , who ever comes out and helps, when it gets done we will break it in , we are already saving pigs to put in there and some buddies are saving pigs to to put in the pen

Lol mbennet you come down here I'll put u to work

Have 50 dollar minimum for four hours for up to 4 dogs and 10 dollars each additional fog. Keep hogs in a separate holding pen for hunters to hunt and leave two or three rank sows for the dogs to work in the pen. If you load the pen up with hogs. It makes it useless for older dogs to get tuned up and can confuse them and puppies. Also hogs, no matter how many, will wise up and make it tough for the hunter to get one. Just ask he or she what they are after and put it in loading chute after they are on stand and turn it loose. It will be moving around there looking for a way out and they will get a shot on what they want most likely. I have learned this all the hard way and watched two friends doc the same thing and I told them how to do it, but they didn't listen at first. Now they are set up the way I just described. Letting young dogs bay a hog in the loading chute, then turning it out  from the chute and putting young dogs on a fresh track is great practice too if a customer would like to work their dog and kill a meat hog to boost the young dogs confidence. Also, it is nice to have a bay pen at the other side of holding pen for folks to practice. I like to get pups stirred up in it and turn hog and pups out into an acre sized alley way that connects to the big pen. Then open it up and let them hit the 70 acre or 320 acre pen and stretch out!!!

This sounds like a nice deal. I had a friend that sold hunts out of a big pen years ago. If the hunters had not killed a hog by the last morning, he would get me to run dogs for them. Most of them had never ran dogs and usually rebooked as long as they could run dogs again. The problem we ran into was putting sows in there that were having pigs. Small hogs and pigs really slowed down and sometimes prevented us from accomplishing our goal. My advice would be to use cut hogs for meat hogs and smaller boars that you have taken the teeth out of for training. Hogs staying in there day in and day out will develope a system of flight and if there are too many they will brush you off over and over on different hogs. Last, you seem to be a real good fella, but everyone is not that honest. If you aren't present, they may not kill the hog, but chew it up so bad that it's ruined. JMO, good luck to ya. 

thanks guys for all the in put , now if my buddy will get off his arse and get it done all ya'll can come play

Monty are you wanting it to be a training pen or a high fence type if deal? I would be skeptical about trainin young dogs knowin there is a 30 pounder with 3 inch teeth in their, solely because my young dogs are kinda catchy and gettin them messed up training would suck, but in the woods is another story.  Just a thought.