EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Heard this on the news tonight.... Republican Steve stockmon of Texas is threatening to begin impeachment proceedings to stop the president. Representative of Texas Steve toff is filling legislation to protect the second amendment of the United States constitution. The firearms protection act would make federal law banning semi-automatic firearms Unenforceable within Texas boundaries.. I caught a chuckle hearing this so I figured I would share it with you all.

that's good news wyoming is doing the same thing . they stated their bill would make it a jailable offense for the feds to enter and try and enforce the gun bans  .

Good! I heard Biden has 19 executive orders for Obama to try to enforce!

Good to hear that we have some folks in there with some balls and not gonna just rollover and let this liberal admin. run rampant.

In case the states didn't know it  ...  federal laws supersede theirs.

Not according to the 10th amendment they don't when the laws they are trying to pass violate the 2nd amendment

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I think when all the dust settles, the states that want gun control will have it and the states that don't will not.

The 10th amendment says that "powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people".

If you argue that a federal law violates the U.S. constitution  ...  it is a matter that is settled in federal court and ultimately, the SC.  So the 10th amendment is not applicable.

I have been doin some think the passt few days while im up here in the dc area pockn up the last helo for the dutch. Why not all those that are pro gun and think the current gov is outa control, contact every political officials in the state with a letter and email to voice your opinion/s in a tactfull manner. Iv been doing a draft to send them. If its done tactfully with no b!tchn, it would hav a better chance of getting viewed, even though the responce may or may not be the responce we r lookn for.
I got an email from john cornyns office about the fiscal cliff and cornyn says!! he is not happy with the way gov is doing thing and how its not fare to texans. I'll try n post an exert from cornyns responce bout the fiscal cliff.

The States must comply with laws passed by the US Congress only if the laws do not violate the United States Constitution. If the laws are unconstitutional the States are free to disregard them. If the States believe the laws are unconstitutional they do not have to wait for the Supreme Court to declare them unconstitutional

I posted a link here a couple days ago titled rugars form letter that is the type of letter u speak of. U can go to the link and just enter ur info and click send and it will send this letter to all senators and congressmen in ur state along with the president. It is quick and easy. If u prefer to write ur own letter u can find all contact info thru the same link,

That statement pretty well backs up what i just said. Powers not delegated to the united states by the constitution nor prohibited by the states.
 Bypassing proper legislation and implementation of laws largely controversial and in violation of the second amendment and opposed by the states seems to be pretty well covered that they have no authority to do so.


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No sir, go read the Constitution. Any power not given in the Constitution goes to the States. The feds can't legally take it.

When the states and feds disagree as to whether a federal law is legal or constitutional  ...  it is litigated in the federal courts, possibly up to the SC.

Restricting "arms" is legal.  We have it today.  The only issue is where do we draw the lines of what is constitutional and what is unconstitutional  ...  under the 2nd amendment.  Ultimately, this is where the SC rules.

If that's the case explain the legalization of marijuana

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Its a illegal on the federal level yet its now legal in two states sounds like this is turning into another case of the laws apply when its convenient and is in line with whichever particular party agrees with the subject matter

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I feel like if congress would listen to a couple hogdogers then there could be some positive changes made! I'm younger than most of you on here but between this forum and being in college I've got politics just about figured out...
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If guns are the sole responcibility of gun deaths, then auto manufactuers should be held responcible for all auto deaths n there should b a ban put on automobiles. Go back to horse n buggy n c he how many yuppie are culled from society, and a human population balance would start.

That Sheriff Joe Arpaio in AZ told the Feds if they came and tried to do some thing... can't remember what... he would arrest them. They did not do it. Your local sheriff's have ALOT more power than most people realize.

All it takes people to start calling the Fed Govt's bluff. They will back down or it will get nasty.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/14171-obama-executive-orders-on-guns-would-spark-mass-resistance
This is what your talking bout..

This is a quote from the article. 
"Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, for example, citing recent Supreme Court rulings, said the proposals being discussed in Washington are unconstitutional. If any were to be approved, the feisty chief law enforcement officer vowed to take the federal infringements to court and have them thrown out. "I've been to the Supreme Court twice," Abbott said in a recent interview with 1200 WOAI. "I can tell you that these laws that try to restrict our gun rights violate the Second Amendment guarantee of the right to keep and bear arms. The U.S. Supreme Court has spoken on this issue twice."

And that was my point.  If laws or orders are put in place then the states can challenge their constitutionality.  The states can't make a law that it is illegal to enforce a federal law.  The states would simply request an injunction to stay the law or order pending litigating the issue.

Still haven't explained how it works with marijuana

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There can be state laws and federal laws applicable to the same issue  ...  such as guns or hunting or marijuana.  In Cal and Col the states have legalized marijuana.  The problem is that it is still a federal offense.  Currently, the feds are saying they are not going to enforce the law.  But they could if they wanted to.

What the states can't do is pass a law that criminalizes the enforcement of a federal law, which is the point I was making.  The states have to litigate the legality of the federal law if they feel it is unconstitutional.

So like I said basically it only applies when it is in the favor of those who are supportive of it but not equal across the board

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This gov is a do as i say, not as i do. Freakin hippocrits!!!!!

They only have the authority that we allow them to take the constitution was written by brilliant minds that had to deal with a tyrannical government and saw first hand the underhanded cowardly dealings for power grabs etc. It was written in a way to where if the people kept the core beliefs stationed around the constitution and stood by it we would not be in the situations we find ourselves in today. We need good elected officials that are not there to pad their own pockets even more but to follow the laws setup by our founding fathers and get the junk that has become a politician out. They have their own agenda that they want that does nothing but cause problems for us as a country and individuals as well. There is no logical explanation to the situation we find ourselves in except for greed and the desire for power. There are very few elected officials that have the nerve to stand up and stop what is going on that goes for both sides Democrats  and Republicans.

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Those that do stand up, dont last long in office. Our founding fathers gave the people the right to kick the officials out once their power got to big and when they no longer where for the people. It says the gov gets their powers from the people. We hav givin them a-holes to much power n the ries need to be yanked back and start the reversing their vial unconstitutional corrupt beliefs n political agendas. But with all the gutless n chicken poo liberalistic people in this country, removal will hav to be by force. We as true americans cant get just service nor enuf to band together to make a difference with petitions and would b hard pressed to find enuf will to fight and die for their freedom and the freedoms of their family n friends. Being in the military is no longer about fighting for americans freedom, but the freedom of political intrests, money and greed. Cull them ALL, let GOD sort them out n send them to HE!!

TEXAS TO JOIN WYOMING: FELONY CHARGES FOR ENFORCING NEW GUN CONTROL
 
Texas state representative Steve Toth is filing legislation for a "Firearms Protection Act" similar to that which we saw in Wyoming.

This law will make "any federal law banning semi-automatic handguns or limiting the size of gun magazines unenforceable within the state's boundaries."
 
Not only will this put Texas shoulder-to-shoulder with Wyoming in making it a felony for anyone--including federal agents--to try to enforce new gun control, but according to the Tenth Amendment Center it is in perfect harmony with the actions of Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, "who has already filed over twenty-three lawsuits against the federal government."
 
More good news--representative Toth is newly elected, which means he isn't wasting any time. He is taking it to the gun-grabbers instead of sitting back to see what happens next.
 
Toth puts it this way: "We can no longer depend on the Federal Government and this Administration to uphold a Constitution they no longer believe in."
 The message is simple: "Don't Mess With Texas," and particularly, with Texas' gun laws.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/15/Texas-to-Join-Wyoming-Felony-Charges-For-Enforcing-New-Gun-Control

at 1055 were supposed to find out what guns are gonna be banned

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  lol and the revolution starts at about 11;15

Maybe this was the dooms day the Mayans predicted?