EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I been contemplating buying a finished dog I just wanted to throw this out there to see what the going rate for a 100% trash is broke med to long range dog that produces hogs consistently in a decent populated area. I would like to know from the guys that has good dogs how much worth do you put on them I have heard a lot of guys talk about how they were offered anywhere from $1500 - $2500 for their dogs I have yet to own what I consider a dog of this caliber but would like to get a feel for what a jam up dog is worth.
So if you bought a jam up dog I would like to know what you had to pay for it or if you own a jam up dog what would you say he's worth don’t mean to embarrass or offend just a honest question. I guess im cheap most I ever paid for a dog was $400 he was all hog but had alot of issues with my style of hunting I have raised one thats decent and got a couple good young dogs that need a good dog to hunt with to finish them out right.

Hmmm.

The most money ever put down on a grown dog for me was $300 and he wad killed a week later. So that answers what the most I would pay for a hunting dog with a temporary life tag on it.

As for selling one that is  my best................Nope ................. if I were faced with selling my best I would give the dog to a close friend or family memeber that actually appreciated the dog and I knew would take care of it. Or just turn them into a yard dog and let them bay the mailman.  ;D

Not a rich man.....but its never been all about money round here.

For starters I don't think you will find a "jam up" dog listed on the internet. If the dog is so called "jam up" one of his/her hunting buddies or someone who has heard of or been behind the dog would scoop it up before it ever had to hit the internet.

Im with YBM, I think I would give mine to a friend or have a nice yard dog around.

Couldnt agree anymore with Yellow.  Now, i have paid more than 300, but as far as my dogs, they have no price tag on them, if I was to ever get rid of them, they would go to my friends that I hunt with first and foremost. 

You usally get the good dogs from some one you know or you luck in to them ,
I would say though a price that might get you a good dog if the person is willing to sell would prolly be $1500 an up , that is if the person is even willing to sell ,

Your best bet is to get lucky an by the a dog when the owner gets pissed off at them for some reason or another
I just sold a dog like that to my buddy the dog made me mad then a few nights later I sure wish I would of had him haha but that's how it goes

If the dog was a jam up dog he wouldnt be for sale... Most of the jam up dogs people are selling might be there number 2 dog... And most of the time it's probably a great help dog... I personally wouldnt take that chance....

Go hunt behind the dog before you do anything.  Put it on the ground by itself and see what it's made of.  If you like it decide on your own what you would value it at if it was on your yard.

I paid 800 for my best dog but  and I got it from a guy on here. About a year after I bought him I found out the only reason the guy was selling him was because it wasn't even his dog he had stolen him

I would never pay that for a dog but I think you are in the right price range for a pretty good dog. Most I ever paid for a curdog was 300 for a pup. I paid 1500 for a coondog once but he was a sure enough coondog though. I hunted him for about a month before I bought him.

Dayum  :o

I have hunted with some good dogs I got a couple buddys that have some but they would rater sell their trucks haha I work overseas on an oil rig and just dont have the time to finish out a dog rite I could shave alot of time off training my two young dogs with one real good dog I got my eye on one to try out $1750 is the price tag on him and I am willing to pay that for a jam up dog. My dogs get lucky some times and find a hog but they are far from jam up in my opinion the pups are trashy man and I need a solid old dog to tell on them even my 3 year old gyp has started trashing with them and I didnt have that problem before i started putting the pups with her.

That's the same reason I bought the dog I night cuz all I had was puppies and needed a dog to help get em goin he was 7 when I bought him 2 years ago and he has been worth every penny I gave for him. I e had a run of bad luck with my young dogs here lately and now I'm almost back at square one. I'm not lucky enough to have any buddies that hunt that have enough good dogs to give me one

Some really good dogs get sold for one reason or another.  I believe you are in the right price range.  9 years ago I sold two really good dogs, I was going threw a divorce, and had to pay an attorney.  Saying that I am very proud of my dogs but think much more of my family.  Don't go buy a dog and expect it to be as good of dog for you as it was from the man that had him.  It takes time for a dog to adjust for a new owner.

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$1000-$2000 for a sure enough hog dog is about what i would pay. I bought a hard huntin lil gyp a while back for a grand and she was worth every penny in my opinion. My pack of young dogs have all improved while hunting with her. I wish i would have bought a dog like my gyp when i first started out... It would have saved me lots of money in the long run and saved me tons of wasted time hunting pups that really didnt have a roll model. I think it takes an old dog to show the young ins the ropes..

the most i have ever payed for a dog is 50 bucks but that was just for a puppy, my best dogs I've ever had I have raised from a puppy and trained my self...IMO thats how you have the best hog dog, one you have to put all the work in with and get it goin how you like them to hunt

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I agree with YBM above, but to answer your question...

I personally dont have a lot of money to spend on buying dogs, I choose to raise my own or buy a prospect and attempt to finish him/her out.  I would not buy a dog for more than about 500...that is just my budget.  If one of my buddies had a dog that i thought was worth 2500, I still would not pay that because I am not going to spend that much.

I have two dogs that I consider "jam up", they are not for sale and they cannot be bought.  As mush as they are worht to me, I wouldnt spend that to buy them either becuase it is just too much to pay. 

All the best dogs on this yard from an 'outside' (off the yard) source, were free. Entrusted to us by fellow dogmen/hunters. I guess I would have to say I wouldn't pay anything. I prefer to make my own with the ingredients I have. I've been blessed with some really nice dogs that I am already working with. I am in NO way meaning to sound arrogant or anything of the sort, it just kinda sounded that way when I read back what I wrote, lol. I guess I've never been in the position where I was actually in great NEED of a 'finished' dog from someone else.

Man I sure wish the other 99.9% of us could get dogs for free or dogs for a $100 that worked great lol! If I had a pen full of $100 prospect dogs I would damn sure go find me a really nice dog to get them going which I would estimate would cost around a $1000 or more! I got mine started off with friends dogs which were already hammers

Boys I sat here and wrote for a few minutes then I deleted it all....

Then I typed again...for a few minutes...and deleted it all.

Ill just say this and be done with it......I smell a lot of B.S.

Every dog has a flaw but if I could find one with no flaws or close to perfect I would pay as much 10000 the most I have ever payed was 4500

I did the same thang. I bet their definition of jammed up and mine would differ a little

I have 4 dogs total and only gave 75$ for one as a pup and his my best one. The rest were free and I raised all but my gyp and a friend give her to me. But no amount of money will ever get them. U just have to feed them tracks and then feed them more tracks. Nothing like seeing young dogs turn on when u raise them

 what is the most that you  have sold a dog far lots ppl sale one for big money but will they buy one for good money

I've seen a handful of dogs go for upwards of 4,000. If I liked the dog that dang much and it was a HOG DOG, not a dog you take to the woods hog hunting, but a true HOG DOG, then I would pay it if I could afford it at the time. That'll probably never happen even if I won the lottery, cuz I might have to buy a divorce if I spent that much on a dog, rich or poor.

Finding these dogs is about like finding a needle in a haystack.

  Hell y'all be rich hog hunters. Most I have seen would sell a dog to make their phone bill payment.

  Before I got married. 2500 for a good dog. Now it is a lot less. A good young dog with promise is worth 1000 to me.
   Just about everything has a price. Hell some people pay 1500 for a yellow dog that won't even hunt.

I've seen good dogs sell from $1,000 to $5,000.

Believe me... good dogs do get sold all the time for various reasons.

A yella dog that won't hunt..  ???  Unheard of..  ;D  :P

Shocking I know.  rolleyes :D

I'd pay 2500-3000 for the right dog. I've been all over the country looking at dogs and I've culled dogs that were better than most of the ones I've looked at and they were priced at 1000-1500$.

It's funny these kind of threads come up every time a dog hits the trade with a big asking price.

I think the bottom line is......a dog is worth as much as you're willing to pay for it.

Couldn't go back and edit....I wasn't done. Most I paid for a dog ever was $1,000. It's a bulldog from good 'ol blood. I wanted his blood for a good outcross before I bred my small yard into a corner. My statement above wasn't meaning what the dog itself was worth per se'..... because a dog worth a grand to someone may not be worth five bucks to someone else. If you see a dog that performs just how you like then obviously you'd be willing to pay a good price for it.

That is always the way i have answered the question.

The young guys act like people r crazy for spending money on a dog... To me it is my money to spend.

we got our best dog Bo from a really good friend of ours..someone offered him 1500 dollars for the dog and he refused..a few weeks later he sold him to us for 400 dollars..and hes and excelllent dog

It gets tricky with hunting dogs. What may be a 'jam up' dog to me, may be a p.o.s. dog to you. Matter of fact, my husband's main strike dog, a Patterdale, was not quite right on the game the previous owner used him for....so he was sent to us....and MAN is he a fantastic hog dog for us! Also, I've seen it many times as well with hogs dogs.....some dogs will hunt great for one person, but when they change hands, they may not hunt the same way. Or, the new owner may not like the dog's style. I think we all have the same goals in mind when hunting, but I know alot of us have preferences in our dogs. So all of this would be factors in what the 'value' would be of a dog to someone. Hell I was even GIVEN my AKC English Bull Terrier. He is my childhood dream dog. I could never afford one from a breeder. When I do have extra money, it goes into the kids and animals I already have, BUT, when others wanna spend high dollars on somethin....more power to 'em!

I am a reptile hobbyist breeder as well. This is a similar subject that comes up alot in the reptile world. The value of certain morphs of snakes.....can be anywhere from $50 to over $15,000 easy. All in all, the buyers are who have most influence on the price tag of these guys....boils down to what someone is willing to pay. Same concept. Like I said, I've been given most of my best dogs, or bred my own. But if I was just starting fresh or what not, and I came across a dog that I was able to hunt behind, and I liked what I saw THAT much, I'd pay as much as my budget would allow me to I suppose....which wouldn't be much these days, lol.

Hahahaha.  There are a few.....but they shouldn't be able to make it to a feed bowl if handled correctly.   >:D

haha!! 

There must be a helluva lot of mishandling going on! :o

I paid 500 once and 1000 another for bay dogs and would do it again for the same type of dog , have been offered way more , in my mind I wouldn't take less than 5 grand for any of mine , who's gonna pay that   , I guess I'll keep feeding them LOL

1000.00 to 5000.00  you can find yourself a hell of a dog if you look in the right places.

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Hey now, it's all good Mike, I think the tide is turning towards plotts and plott crosses again, so hopefully there will be enough time to get all the dud curs covered up like area 51. Lol

Couldn't agree more

1100 and 1250 for some dogs.
its just like any hobby, if you want to have a good race car yur going to buy wat u can. like racing horses , start small and work yur way up.

Y'all tell what the bull$hit is?

It was a simple question.

The way I look at it I would rather spend alot of money on some really good dogs and have some thing worth breeding and be able to have my own pups

Lot good replys thanks I dont look at the dogs for sale on here most are in Texas im in Arkansas I asked this mainly because im at a cross road I dont feel like I can advance forward without buying a good dog to put with my young dogs and I just wanted to get an idea of a fair price. I have some nice young dogs from good hog dog stock with alot of hunt they all got a touch of hound in them and will run anything a good solid dog will tell on them when they are trashing. I am gone 28 days home 28 days about the most I can hunt them is 4-5 times every other month its hard to get them going like that. Just looking for some opinions and advice. I either need to sell the dogs I got and just tag along with buddys or buy one jam up dog I recon.

jam up dogs need to get hunted too...after a while a jam up dog will probably trash if there aren't many hogs around...if you don't hunt much it will be best to dump the dogs in fresh hog sign...this will keep the trashin down...

I offered a buddy $4000 for a gyp he has and he laughed at me and said double that and we could talk.

If I were in my late 20's or early 30's I would prefer to buy an up and comer...A 10 month old pup that is a hard hunting, trashy as heck pup...the right size and color and the right parents/bloodline...I would pay 1000 to 1500 for such a pup...then that pup would be bred once if a good one, or, it would be the main dog that a breeding program would be built  around...if he turns out like I think he would...

and if I wasn't interested in a breeding program I still want that above average trashy pup because the chances of getting the pup at a bargain price is good...and this pup probably couldn't be bought once it is a 2 year old dog...

I like how you bring up trashy pups. My opinion is people will give up and sell a trashy dog too soon but also in my opinion you can teach them what to trash on lol cause they want something bad and just need to be shown what!

I agree the the two pups I got have all the tools just need direction and a solid dog would help me out alot there arent many hogs where I hunt alot of time I dont find fresh sign and turn them out in areas I have been lucky at before if there is a hog there they usually will find it but if it aint they will run deer and run them a long way way over a mile and one is a year old the others 9 months old they got the want to but I want to be able to cast them if nothings there they come back and I move on. My older gyp never done that before but she trashed with them the last 2 time I hunted them thought they were on a running hog but saw deer cross the road they were about 10 minutes behind them and were sure after them I caught them and gave a scolding for it I prolly a lesson they have forgotton by now. Thanks for the replys

Well...Ive done some thinkin on this and I guess I'll man up and state what I've been thinkin since I first saw this subject come up a long time ago..............

Haha! Nope.....not gonna do it.

Ill just agree with everyone else...$1000 to $5000

Most I've paid is $750....great dog

Somebody said earlier that even a good dog would trash if they go without finding a pig for awhile and I tend to agree I don't get too down if a dog trashes sometimes maybe it's my fault for not setting them up for success. Only time I get spun is if they mess with livestock

ive offerd up to 2000dls for a dog twice,the two dogs fit in my pack hunted the same looked the same acted the same. the one dog was not for sale i dont think you could buy him the other one was priced way out of my range. I personally have seen 4 dogs sold for big a-- money 1for 4500.00 2for 2500.oo 1 for 2000.oo they were all sold to professional hunters or guid hunters. i know were ones at for 6500.00 and i believe he will bring it. its diff to folks when they are doing it for a living

Where the dog located for 6500 and what is he

comanche,texas hes  walker x catahula hes one bad dude

day in and day out I will bet on a good hound cross that makes that great hunting dog...

I was just woindering because I'm going to look at a dog for 6500 and he is suppose to be serious it is a medium range walker cross

Man I love hog hunting and have spent $500 on a pup but I couldn't ever see personally spending over 2 k on any hog dog. Being the chance of him/her not being here tomorrow. Now flip side of that coin, I ve seen blood trailing dogs go for 5k +, hell I ve been offered that for mine. But those dogs typically have a longer life than a hogdog. AND make money. But that's just been my experience. Best dog I have right now I spent $200 for so too each their own.. I was lucky to have a buddy, I wouldn't buy a dog or take a dog from just anyone

I see your point but in my eyes if I can I have good dogs and have the chance to buy on better than what I have to improve my dogs further down the line I will do it I would not spend more than I could afford but I enjoy hog hunting more than most. I like to have the very best dogs I can find. When I'm not hunting I am thinking about it is more than a addiction for me it is what I enjoy most of life so I will do what it takes to get the best

I'm with you bud, I ve been fortunate to hunt around some good blooded dogs and been able to pick up one or two. But if the right dog came along and I could afford by all means I d buy it. The affording it part is where I get stuck. Hahaha

When it comes to a 'finished' ready to go hog dog......

ya also gotta think....when folks ask what some consider higher prices....what all has been invested in said dog. Aside from normal maintaining (feed, vaccines, wormer).....the time put into training, and the gas spent on taking said dog out to hunt time and time again....that all adds up.....so really, is that 'higher' price truely that unreasonable? Probably not.

I do agree that the time, effort and maintenance expense does way on the sellers mind but........on the buyers end.....not so much.  Reason being I have yet to see a tax break for owning a recreational dog.

Unless you make a profit by the game the dog produces. I dont see a viable way for the buyer to justify the atrocious expense that a grown dog that had been taxed down to the kernel of dogfood it ate last night including the sellers gas money and twinkes the seller bought during the hunting trips to train it.

Would be great in theory on sellers behalf.....but impractical on buyers side.

both of you make excellent points...common sense will have to prevail...

the seller has to consider time and money spend on the dog to a point...the deduction comes from the pleasure of training and owning a good hunting dog...and that includes that dog showing you a good time in the woods...

However, I have seen som folks try to recuperate their money from a worthless dog which aught to be against the law...  ;D

on the buyers side...1000 to 2000 dollars is really not a bad deal if it is a good hunting dog...when you consider the cost of a well bred pup which can free to 5 or 6 hundred bucks...let's say that pup costs 300 hundred dollars and then at 1.5 years of age it has to be culled...then the process is repeated and the dog is an ok dog but lacks in size or color etc...etc...not to mention the feeding and vet care costs...

either way my first choice is to breed my own...but the right breeding, breed, color, size, slick coat, temperament.and hunting style...I would gladly pay 1500-2000 because I would see it more as an investment than just buying a hunting dog...

My problems time I have bought dogs for cheap that for one reason or other didnt work out I have had decent luck raising dogs in the past never had one that realy showed out but I got 2 young dogs right now that have the most potential in a pup I ever had and I don't want to waist that and really think a jam up dog to put them with will make a huge difference one pup is                          (running walker x Parker cur) the other is (Engish hound x Catahoula) I have not owned dogs like these two before I think they will be something if I can just get them in the right direction. I think $1000-$2000 is alot of money to throw at a hog dog but not unfair considering expenses like Curcross says its what I love to do I dont fish or run the bars so why not spend a little money on my hobby $2000 is about my limit though haha thanks guys I just needed a little push to get out my wallet.

no amount of money could buy a finished DOGO! you ain't got the money and your daddy doesn't either!

You meant a nogo right?

Is that becuase they are so rare? Kinda like the hope diamond??

Jason...lot's of folks think that they need a good dog to train pups...that is not true by a long shot...good hunting pups that have it in them just need to be taken to the woods and they will get it down quick enough...You can give a few baying sessions in a bay pen and/or a few mock hunts and after a few of those sessions put them in some hog sign and it will be on...a well bred young dog that has it bred in them don't need and old dog to show them how to hunt...

Or I guess, when they are over a thousand dollars for a pup, your right, I couldn't never afford one who made it all the way to finished.


Not being a smarta$$ either, just kinda dawned on me that your probably right!

myself have never bought a hog dog or any dog for that matter... all my hog dogs free, my duck dog free, my blood dog free....... think people wanna lot of money for hog dogs heck price some well bred labs or golden retrievers

im the same way,if i offer 2000 for a dog ive hunted with him several times and know exactly what the dog is.for that matter if i offer you 250.oo for a dog im gonna hunt with him and know if he has any potential.i dont go for this he said she said stuff.one hunt you cant tell what i need to know about a dog. i guess thats the reason i raise most of mine from my own stock or a good friends stock. if you start a group of pups on pigs at 3months and keep working them and improving them,buy the time they are 2years you have a lot of time invested in them not to mention feeding them and vet care. most of my pups at 6 months can find a pig using there nose if not they aint around my place long. its very hard for me to sell a 4year old finished dog that ive raised from a puppy.

i would pay up to 5000 on a dog i liked, but he would have to be what i wanted. what i have seen with people around here buying dogs is, they drive a 1000 miles and get them back and they are usually not good dogs, but i think this is because of several different issues, different hunting styles, one good dog to me might be a $h!teater to you or vice versa because people hunt so much different in parts of the world. and alot has to do with the terrain. its hard to bring a dog that has hunted open land all his life and excelled out there and dump him in these brair patches and swamps down here and he looks stupid. and im sure one of our best dogs would look the like a number 2eater when he got put out in a open field. i think when buying a dog it would be better to buy it in the part of the country you will be hunting in

Might as well spend alot of money on dogs. You can't keep it forever the richest man in the graveyard is still dead

Interesting way to put it  :D

$1500-$3000 is fair to me I have seen pretty dang good ones for less than a grand and I have seen dogs I wouldn't feed 3k plus. Yeah it's rewarding raising pups but like said before alot easier in the long run to get a good young dog that has the right qualitys and start build pups off he/she. Instead of just starting from pure scratch but money can always be tight. A lot of people say the best are not for sale maybe be true in some cases but money talks. Some dogs will never be bought there is a ton of people that if they got of hog hunting tomorrow their dog would die on their yard of old age or die with a close friend.