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I got a 5 yr old catahoula mix dog that I would consider one of my main dogs. He will go out and find them and bay the heck out of them but as soon as he sees me get there he will take off and leave. He will take off before the hog is even caught. Its getting to be very frustrating. I dont want him teaching my other dogs to do the same I would like for him to stay there till the sucker is caught. Is there anything I could do to teach him to stay or is it just in him to leave when he sees me? He acts like he thinks hes going to get in trouble when he sees me walking up. I praise him and let him know that he has done a good job when he comes back to me but it doesnt seem to do any good. I have whooped him off armidillos and other trash before so I guess he thinks Im going to get onto him when I see him on a pig. I might just need to retire him and get me another good dog.

How long have you had him

When he leaves the bay does he ever go out and bay up again on another hog?

I have had him since he was 6 weeks old. He is a dang good dog other than leaving the bay. He will go out and strike and bay the hog but he will leave as soon as he sees me. I mean I have whooped him off of trash but never punished him when he has bayed a hog.

Yea everytime he leaves he goes back out hunting. While I was loading that sow up they had all ready caught another shoat.

Do usely turn the bulldog loose before he sees you

Not usually. I try to get there and access the situation and then turn the bull dog loose. Usually while Im doing that he will see me and quit baying and he acts like he is going to get in trouble or something.

I would try turning the bulldog loose before he can see u.....see if the caught hog entices him to stay!!

The Original Setxhogdogs

Ya I would start turning the bull dog loose before he sees you and if he stays ok if he rolles back out to hunt and you don't like them like that send him my way. When I get to a caught hog I like for nothing to be there but the catch dog

Don't do anything!

Let him do his own thing, he knows the other dogs have him bayed.  Let him leave and go find another hog.  I wish all my dogs did that right there.

X2

x1000 I have owned one dog that is gone before i get there if pigs are around i mean you know he struck the first hog and he is baying the 2nd by the time you get to the first.  Don't retire him, send him to me.  Ill send you one that will stay at the first bay and help catch with you!  ;)  Thats one dog out of 100

Make that x1001
Lol

What you've got there is a dog who knows how to count! Lol
He's rolling out, and that's a good thing, leave him be and hope he DOES teach the rest of your dogs how to do it too  ;)

Perspnally I would like it but if you dont try a bay pen or a tied hog in your yard. 

That's all fine and good unless you're only running one dog and as soon as you get there he leaves the hog and then what ya gonna do?? ;D

The Original Setxhogdogs

That's all fine and good unless you're only running one dog and as soon as you get there he leaves the hog and then what ya gonna do?? ;D

The Original Setxhogdogs

Oops double post!!!

The Original Setxhogdogs

You still send a bulldog and catch that hog he probably won't roll till another dog has the hogs attention.

is the dog really rolling out or is the dog afraid of you?

X 1002 unless he not hunting and just scared of you

If the dog is smart enough to roll out when other dogs get there, he's smart enough to keep the dog bayed until the bulldog hits or other dogs are bating the hog.

My main dog is the same way. Has been for a while. If he knows there's other pigs around hes gone when the cd gets there or sometimes he waits till I leg the pig. But if he hangs around I kno were done for that area. I like but it can get annoying when your tyin one and he gets another bayed and it just keeps goin and your wantin to stop lol but I'm not gunna complain any. I wouldn't want to stop it. I agree with the previous posts, it shows how smart they are. And also very hard to find.

Send the bulldog from farther , that way the hogs caught an he leaves you tie him or whatever an he will go get bayed on another , now when your ready to go home this will create a problem , my dog does this an it can be a pain when you are tired an ready to call it a day an the dog is still ready to hunt

   was the dog this way before you started  [ trash whoopin ] it ?   don't sound like the dog is intentionally rolling out to hunt sounds like he is , like you said  scared you gonna whoop him . I would spend time in a bay pen with it and see if you can correct the behavior  .  dogs rolling out to hunt is not as great a deal that every-one thinks it is  lol . but a good roll out dog will at least be there TILL THE HOG IS CAUGHT  not leave out before .

I agree on some except the part a good one will stay till caught.  If i hunt my Superman dog by himself he will go strike a hog bay tiill i walk in with a catch dog and stay till i leg the hog.  If i hunt Superman with another dog and he strikes ansd the other dog shows up you better hope that dog knows how to bay cause he is rolling as soon as the other dog shows bayed.  I LOVE IT!!  WHen you catch the first one he will have the 2nd one bayed already.  :)  Is there something wrong with Superman doing that?  Should i cull him?

I wouldnt have a problem with him rolling back out after the hog is caught. Earlier in the hunt he had a shoat bayed by himself and he seen me walk up and he took off, again like he was in trouble. No he wasnt like this until this year when I started correcting him off of armidillos. I really dont want my pup to start doing the same thing and that is what Im concerened with. I think I will keep hunting him for now to see if it continues. I have a Plott X Mt Cur pup that is about to pass him up anyways. He will actually stay there till I get the hog caught. I agree though I need to work him in a bay pen to let him see that he is doing exactly what I want him to do and that is to bay a hog with me standing there. Im sure it will be a trial and error type deal. I sure hate to not hunt him because he will get yonder to find a hog. Here is a pic of him. He is the one on the 4 wheeler
(http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af223/dd121212/1-22-11020-1.jpg)

Try hunting him by himself, that will tell you real quick. 

Yea I might have to do that. I wouldnt mind him finding the hogs and baying them and leaving as long as the pups didnt start doing the same thing. I would like for at least 2 dogs to stay and bay and hold the hogs attention until the bulldog got there.

Yes u should cull him;D;D;D Ill be happy to give him a good home though!!! Lol ;D;D;D

The Original Setxhogdogs

I think you have the answer the question of "is he afraid of you" first.  If so, you have some work to do, if not, do as BA-IV says.

We often dicipline dogs but do we priase them the same?  I persoanlly would try to heavily praise the dog by catching the dog (obviuosly after the hog is caught and tied) and walking him to the caught hog.  I would the praise him at the caught hog and let him know you are okay with this.  Maybe leave another bay dog close by that will continue to bay.  Do this at the hog, not back at the four wheeler or anywhere else.  Priase him and let him go back to baying.  Sit down and let him know you are accepting his new behavior.  He will know by you being in a sitting position that you are submissive the behavior.

Yea thats a good idea. I try and praise him every chance I get on a hog but he usually aint there to praise,lol. Im thinking on the next one Im just going to sit back and let them do there thing while Im around. Maybe that will show him that Im not going to dicipline him but that I am accepting of what he is doing. Hopefully this weekend I can try that out.

That dog (Superman)will die on my yard...  He ain't going anywhere!  IF he is ever deemed a cull I'll quit hog hunting...

I agree and the same with my dog. He will die on my yard as well. I could never get rid of him. I started out hog hunting with him. I got him when he was 6 weeks and still dont have a clue what the sire is to him. He will sure enough go out and find one for me I just have one problem with him that I can hopefully fix and if not I guess Ill just have to deal with it. I just have to take some time to try and correct it.

let him bay on a caged hog so he knows its ok to keep baying tie him to a tree with the cage just out of reach so he dosnt chew on the wire. walk back an forth to the caged pig so he will over come the fear of u... sound like someone has shocked him off a pig before .. but u said u owned from pup.. try this in the day an at night

Thanks for the advice. Ill sure try it. He has never been shocked off a hog. He has just got whooped off some armidillos and I think he thinks Im going to whoop him off the hogs as well which is clearly not what I would do but he thinks thats whats going to happen. I will just have to work with him and see if I can get him to stay and bay while Im there.

try holding the pig by the back legs an working just him or with a puppy .. sounds like u can work that out

Yea I think so as well. I just need to work with him. I think Im going to do a little bay pen work and try and work with him when baying in the woods. Hopefully he will come around.