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HOG & DOGS => GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: BaynSlay on May 18, 2013, 02:31:14 am



Title: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: BaynSlay on May 18, 2013, 02:31:14 am
What have yall paid for a top notch dog? Do yall think $2,000 would buy me a good dog?


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: BigFool on May 18, 2013, 04:01:33 am
It better but you need to be very careful


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: justincorbell on May 18, 2013, 06:26:27 am
Yes but you better do your homework and hunt with the dog more than once before you drop that kinda coin.


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: Reuben on May 18, 2013, 06:39:51 am
many great dogs are usually not for sale...but some can be had for almost nothing to quite a bit of money...I would pay 7 or 8 hundred for a great dog but that is me...fifteen hundred if the dog has the right breeding behind it...

more than likely I would rather buy 4 or 5 pups for 1000 dollars out of the right line of dogs and cull down to 1 or 2 good dogs from these pups...

there are a few breeders out there that are not in it for the money and have a yard full of great dogs and they also know that most pups from any of their line dogs that he breeds in his back yard will grow up and be of the same caliber...for these few guys good to great dogs are common...no...i don't know anyone like that right now but I have known a few...


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: BA-IV on May 18, 2013, 06:57:00 am
Buy a dog that suits your hunting style, not a dog that suits your wallet and you'll be happy with it.


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: KevinN on May 18, 2013, 07:13:50 am
Preach it Ben


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: Shotgun wg on May 18, 2013, 07:16:23 am
To me a dogs value is dependent upon the 2 people making that deal. Myself I could not ever see paying 2 grand for any dog. That is nearly a months pay and beyond what I could ever pay. To the next guy tho he could make that in a week and not see any problem in paying it.

On the other side of the coin the man selling the dog got offered 2 grand and didn't make a ton of money that would be hard to pass up. While the next guy could call that chump change and be insulted.

This is why I say dependent upon the 2 making the deal.

It is possible to find a dog for 500 that will do everything that 2k dog will do. While it may be hard it is possible. That 2k dog may get killed on the first hunt if u get on the right hog. At that point was it worth 2k.

If a mans sole purpose for that 2k dog is breeding I can come nearer to seeing  the price as long as the breeding partner is up to same par which would produce pups that would more than cover the expense.

Poor boy logic what can I say.


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: Reuben on May 18, 2013, 07:46:48 am
To me a dogs value is dependent upon the 2 people making that deal. Myself I could not ever see paying 2 grand for any dog. That is nearly a months pay and beyond what I could ever pay. To the next guy tho he could make that in a week and not see any problem in paying it.

On the other side of the coin the man selling the dog got offered 2 grand and didn't make a ton of money that would be hard to pass up. While the next guy could call that chump change and be insulted.

This is why I say dependent upon the 2 making the deal.

It is possible to find a dog for 500 that will do everything that 2k dog will do. While it may be hard it is possible. That 2k dog may get killed on the first hunt if u get on the right hog. At that point was it worth 2k.

If a mans sole purpose for that 2k dog is breeding I can come nearer to seeing  the price as long as the breeding partner is up to same par which would produce pups that would more than cover the expense.

Poor boy logic what can I say.

I told you before..and I tell you again...I like your poor man Logic...good post...  :)

I once had a dog back in the early 1990's that I said 5000 cash wouldn't get him...because 5000 can be spent here and there and then have nothing to show for it...but I also said that if one of my kids needed the money to finish college or anything that had a very high level of importance...then I would have sold the dog but not for nothing less...


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on May 18, 2013, 10:37:25 am
Better be careful......$2,000 can buy you a p.o.s. dog too! ;-)


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: floridahogdoghunter on May 18, 2013, 12:44:10 pm
take that 2k put it in the bank and get you a young dog and work it hard and you will be proud to say i started and finished that dog out. best part for me about hunting is to get to see something you worked hard on develop into a true working dog. and if you dont have time to do that your in to big of a rush 


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: Lance on May 18, 2013, 01:10:34 pm
What have yall paid for a top notch dog? Do yall think $2,000 would buy me a good dog?

Save your money and keep your Whitey x Horn pup that you got from Jimmy in the woods and you'll probably have a $2000 dog in a year.


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: hillbilly on May 18, 2013, 01:16:15 pm
take that 2k put it in the bank and get you a young dog and work it hard and you will be proud to say i started and finished that dog out. best part for me about hunting is to get to see something you worked hard on develop into a true working dog. and if you dont have time to do that your in to big of a rush 
I agree to me you get more out of it when you train them yourself. But I do know people that are better off buying a dog cause they don't know how to train dogs and or don't have the patiance for pups


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: cdc505 on May 18, 2013, 03:26:19 pm
take that 2k put it in the bank and get you a young dog and work it hard and you will be proud to say i started and finished that dog out. best part for me about hunting is to get to see something you worked hard on develop into a true working dog. and if you dont have time to do that your in to big of a rush 
I agree to me you get more out of it when you train them yourself. But I do know people that are better off buying a dog cause they don't know how to train dogs and or don't have the patiance for pups
Agree with both here.


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: BaynSlay on May 18, 2013, 05:57:52 pm
What have yall paid for a top notch dog? Do yall think $2,000 would buy me a good dog?

Save your money and keep your Whitey x Horn pup that you got from Jimmy in the woods and you'll probably have a $2000 dog in a year.

I just need something that'll find hogs consistently. That pup is showing promise just needs to be shown. I don't hunt with a lot of people due to no drama. I have my eyes set on a dog I truly like, but so does the owner. It's gonna take a pretty penny


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: BaynSlay on May 18, 2013, 06:02:18 pm
Buy a dog that suits your hunting style, not a dog that suits your wallet and you'll be happy with it.
Hell my kinda dogs are hard to find. I like dogs that find hogs consistently. With all the dog traders, it makes it hard haha


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: jfork on May 19, 2013, 07:47:31 pm
I think it's tough to buy a good dog... And I agree w Reuben, what's the money worth to each individual.  A friend of mine was offer big money for one of his dogs on a couple occasions.. I believe it was 2 and 3 k offers.. He never sold her and she was eaten by an alligator a couple weeks back.


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: Lance on May 19, 2013, 11:38:09 pm
I think it's tough to buy a good dog... And I agree w Reuben, what's the money worth to each individual.  A friend of mine was offer big money for one of his dogs on a couple occasions.. I believe it was 2 and 3 k offers.. He never sold her and she was eaten by an alligator a couple weeks back.

Yep, that's the way it goes ! I turned down $ 3,500 for my Daisy gyp and one month later a boar hog cut the achilles tendon on her back leg and made a 3 legged hog dog out of her. Made me sick but I still would'nt have sold her even if I had of known that it was going to happen and I still would not take the same money for her now. She's not the dog she was but still does pretty good and I have her to start my young dogs with.


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: Hamilton_hogger on May 20, 2013, 06:45:08 am
Just plain dumb to spend that kinda money on a dog. Jmo


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: Easttex91 on May 20, 2013, 06:56:10 am
Just plain dumb to spend that kinda money on a dog. Jmo

Why? 2,000 may not be a lot of money depending who you ask.


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: justincorbell on May 20, 2013, 07:13:30 am
Just plain dumb to spend that kinda money on a dog. Jmo

On one hand I agree, that is alot for a dog BUT on the other hand if i were in a bind for a sure nuff good dog and for one reason or another couldnt get a dog of the right caliber/exp level from within my core group of guys i would spend a cpl grand on a sure enough dog but you can bet your tail that I personally would hunt with any dog im interested in multiple times before i drop that kinda coin..........having said that i have yet to spend a 1/4 of that much on a dog......been lucky i guess


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: Boar Collector on May 20, 2013, 07:30:45 am
2000$ wouldn't touch any of my good dogs. Are any of them worth that much money? No, not necessarily. But after the amount of time, effort, and money I've put into them, they are worth that to me. I'd rather give a good dog to a friend, than sell it anyways. You're best bet is buying a few pups and making your own dogs. The best part about doing it that way is that it truly teaches you the value of a good dog.


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: BigFool on May 20, 2013, 07:39:18 am
2000$ wouldn't touch any of my good dogs. Are any of them worth that much money? No, not necessarily. But after the amount of time, effort, and money I've put into them, they are worth that to me. I'd rather give a good dog to a friend, than sell it anyways. You're best bet is buying a few pups and making your own dogs. The best part about doing it that way is that it truly teaches you the value of a good dog.

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Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: justincorbell on May 20, 2013, 07:41:56 am
2000$ wouldn't touch any of my good dogs. Are any of them worth that much money? No, not necessarily. But after the amount of time, effort, and money I've put into them, they are worth that to me. I'd rather give a good dog to a friend, than sell it anyways. You're best bet is buying a few pups and making your own dogs. The best part about doing it that way is that it truly teaches you the value of a good dog.

Good points sir!


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: bob on May 20, 2013, 10:20:51 am
If I liked a dog and I wanted it I would pay 2000 , I haven't done it as yet but have paid 50 , 200 , 500 , 1000 and 1450 by the time I got the dog to me , training is fine if you have the time , I bought a good dog finding hogs and two pups , 500 for the bay dog and 25 bucks a piece for the pups BMC , a cat and a bmc , redbone , cat. Mix , the pups are now five and both are finding hogs and have been on hundreds , it's only money or only a dog. All depends on what you want or what your willing to pay , how much time you got or how lazy you are , lots of variables. To me if I want something I will find a way to make it happen , you only live once  and can't spend it in the ground and only Internet dogs are finished after a year ,  a woods dog takes time and the only way to teach one is multiple hogs on a normal basis , you can hunt for weeks but if you find no hogs   What have you taught your pup , good spots teach dogs. , the best blood in the world will not learn to find hogs if not showed hogs , if all you see is deer he will more than likely have a deer problem. Jmo


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: BaynSlay on May 20, 2013, 08:16:07 pm
2000$ wouldn't touch any of my good dogs. Are any of them worth that much money? No, not necessarily. But after the amount of time, effort, and money I've put into them, they are worth that to me. I'd rather give a good dog to a friend, than sell it anyways. You're best bet is buying a few pups and making your own dogs. The best part about doing it that way is that it truly teaches you the value of a good dog.

Pups just take too long in my opinion. Whos to say they'll turn out? Before you know it, you've put a couple hundred dollars in a dog that won't work...


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: Bo Pugh on May 20, 2013, 08:53:30 pm
i dont think 2000 is a bad deal for a good dog as long as you like the dog. you figure you get 2 pups and raise them to 4 years old which should be a dogs prime and only one is good the other is ok but its what you got you got 2000 in them and havent caught nearly as many hogs as you would have if you would of went on and just bought the finished dog that you like to begin with.  but i dont think internet dogs is the way to buy one, 99% of the time a "good dog" wont never make it for sale on the internet it will be sold in about 30 min on the phone, someone from the area would buy the dog if it was any count because word of mouth about a dog travels fast. be very careful of internet dogs especially the finished ones.


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: PLP on May 20, 2013, 11:37:56 pm
I hate to say it but the dog trade business has gotten even worse. Since the beginning of time people have been ripped off on dogs but now dog peddlers have figured out that sometimes asking more for a dog will get it sold. The same POS they had listed last week for 1000 is now worth 1250? Or the price varies dependin on who is intrested.? Everybody knows somebody in their area that hunts and good dogs won't get from people like that. Not to say that 2 large bills wouldn't get you a good dog but shoot man a free dog that won't hunt for you is not good either. Good advise is buy local and shoot for a " started dog" from a local person that you know catches hogs. Jmo but a good sign that you are about to take a bath is throwing 2k down on a " finished dog" less than 5 yr old.The best advise I ever got and this goes for horses,dogs or whatever is don't let people know what u want to spend on something and don't overlook something you like just because it's cheaper. everybody loves a dog that shows a hog on the end of the track but with 2k invested you gotta love him even if he don't! LOL


Title: Re: the right price for the right dog....
Post by: Hamilton_hogger on May 21, 2013, 10:20:09 am
Maybe not "dumb" not tryin to offend anybody i just would never be able to do it guess 2000 ain't very much money to some folks anyways hell id sell my best dog for 2000 i guess maybe if somebody thought ahem was worth that much