EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I was needing a dog with a better nose and I was thinking a hound I know most are open on track but I don't mind that do y'all think it would be better to hunt a hound with fast gritty dogs or what's y'all's opinions

I have a treeing walker that always would slick tree or tree squirrels at night. Now i hunt her with our cur dogs she can hang with them sometimes ahead of them. She is by no means finished sometimes she trys to take tracks she cant. Our cur dogs arent real gritty but fast dogs amd get the job done

if you do that you will soon be selling them cur dogs to get another hound hahaha jk
get you a good nosed hound that can move a track an you will be good

How do you hunt? Walk? Road? Cast? Hood?

   how much country do you have to hunt ?   you just have to remember a hound will pick up a pretty old track . if the track is just a couple hours old , well you do know how far a sounder can travel in a couple hours not to mention them old rouge boar hogs .  just something to think on  .

I walk hunt road hunt and hood hunt and I have quite a bit of land to hunt

not trying to start anything but  don't think you have  to have a  hound  to have a cold nose ....lots of curs will track sign several hours old ......  lots of very nice dogs out there hounds and curs .... 

  that is true I quit testing my Catahoula's on two hour old tracks  . but the curs are more apt to pass on a colder track to find a hot one where-as a hound will grub out the first track it comes on  .

Parker said:
not trying to start anything but  don't think you have  to have a  hound  to have a cold nose ....lots of curs will track sign several hours old ......  lots of very nice dogs out there hounds and curs ....

This is very true. I used to cull a lot of plotts because they did not have any more nose then my curs.

On another note, I keep hearing that to have hounds, u need a lot of land. We'll that is true but I have also seen alot of good cur dogs that will stick with a running hog & end up miles away.jmo

cajun  you are right dogs of any breed that are top dogs you better have alot of ground specially these days where hogs are dogged regular .... i don't care to feed anything else ...  i hunt one dog most of the time so i can perty much control where i hunt  but if they jump or it breaks  they gone ...

I run mine with whatever...mostly with my cat gyp because she helps catch. Sadie is just as fast and sometimes even faster than some of my curs...and about the land I cant really take any of my dogs to smaller properties anymore.. ESPECIALLY that hound though. Her, the cat gyp Fidget, and our patter-pit gyp Munch are LOOOONG. Sucks when I have a lot of small properties I cant run on now.

Our hogs on our lease run 24/7 my hound ran one 6 1/2 hours and it was 25 miles on the garmin and half the time we didnt have connection with her  we our on a 11,000 acre deer lease in the heart of east texas and they run off our lease almost everytime and so does the cur dogs and so does my hound almost everytime

ya'll still have the lease at sunydale i believe ... if  so i hunted there with your dad and  mr mc donald years ago .....  some of that country was hard to get around on cross big creeks ...

No sir we dont have sunnydell any more dad kept it for 17 years then finally have it up! Tim stanley took over and after he died tj has it now! We are on renfro huntin club now

  a lot of them hounds are slow but for what ur needing maybe a half hound im more of a fan of half plots or quarter plots sometime half barks to much for me but most full blood hounds r to slow ive also seen some silent half blue ticks that would pick up a day old track and try some bird dog crosses they got some nose on them and the good thing about them is that they are silent.

  hounds are slow ?   I here that a lot but have yet to witness it , but I guess there are a few out there , wish my walker gyp was still in her prime we would get a race going   lol .

You might need to see a walker dog run if you say hounds are slow! I can drop mine right now and its 8:29 and they will be treed and have a coon by 8:34 to 8:40 and be with in 500 yds to a mile mine ususally arw fast tree dogs unless they get on a teack were a coon has walked early.

   I have a walker dog and by far no offense but he is the best looking hound I've ever seen in my life he will find a hog but barks every step and slow as hell and I mean slow he is hickory nut harry blood line and million dollar I should of just made him a coon hound but I was to busy chasing hogs he was silent when I first started hunting him then just one day he decided to bark on track and I mean every step and u tlk about a good looking hound I mean pretty colored as all get out but barks on track and slow as hell im sure there are some fast hounds out there but 95% of them are slow

I have a few harry dogs got some lipper some rat attack tequila sunrise and sackett bred dogd i have 10 walkers plus the three running walker crosses all of them are good dogs. Yes hounds are a 50/50 shot in every breed there will be a good fast bluetick,redbone or black an tan. But when someone refers to a hound being slow they usually refer to a bloodhound. The slowest of all hounds. I have a sackett bred hound on hogs and boy can she run, she will run them for days. None of this was ment to offend you or anyone. But in the coon world walker dogs are ususally the fastest but all different breeds have there pros and cons. An people have their opinion.

    95%  ?   how many hounds have you run behind sparky ?  I guess all the cat and bear hunters should just switch to cur dogs . as the breed goes your walker sounds like a dud [ no offense  meant ]  walkers can and should open regularly and move a track fast running with their heads up . sounds like yours is grubbing on the track for some reason , true not all hounds are feast but your 95%  are slow is so far off I really don't know how to respond .  like I said no offense meant to you or your hound just curious where you come up with the 95% claim .

I agree with half breed your percentage is off , there are just as many slow cut dogs you just can't hear them ,
You never must of hunted with a good hound , they are fast an will put the heat on some game in a hurry

If you wanna see one that's not slow but no super super fast but will move a track an has put it on a few cur dogs message me

read his post again...

I got half plott half gsp and 3/4 mountain cur 1/4 plott and there doing great there fast the half breed is open which I don't mind there what I'm looking for thank yall

   Only thing I can say is that i coon hunted for years before we had pigs around here seen all hounds work and 95% of them are slow and 99% of them bark on track not my style I like em silent.

my number 1 strike dog is a walker gyp, and i run rough curs with her and i have had good sucesss with this combo. She is semi open on track and she will find you pigs, then them rough curs will get them stoped cause she is not gritty at all.

I was needing a dog with a better nose and I was thinking a hound I know most are open on track but I don't mind that do y'all think it would be better to hunt a hound with fast gritty dogs or what's y'all's opinions

You know, you can find hounds that are coldnose, gritty & fast & have it all in the same dog.  I will say hounds are not for everybody and I have cussed mine alot when I was ready to go home & they were not.lol Another downside to hunting gritty long range dogs, are they will be busted up or worse by the time you get there. I try to water my dogs down a little by hunting a real gritty dog with one that is not to gritty. They still catch most of the hogs 120# & under.

  Got lucky on the hog on the right. Three of my plotts jumped him, ran him about 1/2 mile & caught him. Took us about 15 minutes to get there but they had him under control. Any longer & when the ears came off, those dogs would be in for a whooping. He had about 2 1/2" cutters & weighed about 225#. Not a monster but I would rather my plotts bay hogs like that.
  The hog on the left, they caught him at first, then two of my females backed off & bayed, while my male held the whole time until we got there with a bulldog. both hogs were in the 225# range.

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I'm with Cajun!!!  I'd just assume have a coldnosed, fast, gritty dog!!!!  I placing the over/under of sparkydog's age at 22!  And the over/under of hounds he's been hunting with at 9!   Now come on be honest tell us how old you are and how many hounds you've really seen!!!!   LOL!!!!!

You can catch a lot of big hogs if you track hunt with them both and use them right. If you got a cold nosed hound or any kind of dog that's not very fast, use them to trail and find the hog and if he runs let him run for a little while then send the faster, gritty dogs to him. But don't send them a half a mile behind the hog. Make sure you turn them loose either ahead of or right on top of the slower dog. As far as the hounds speed versus a cur dog, If your cur dogs are getting outrun by a hound they are very slow in my opinion. I've hunted with A LOT  of hounds of all breeds and an average speed cur dog that can run a track with his head up will be faster than most fast hounds..