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So we went out last night. Bayed a good boar hog on the edge of a tank. He might have went 200lbs. I cut the bulldog loose from maybe 20yds. He slammed him and we caught the pig. Thing is my bulldog was pouring blood. Is a small hole under neath the right side of his chin. I packed mud and tied his neck with a belt and a couple shirts and carried him 1000yds outta there. My question for yall is, what next? I mean should I leave the shirts and mud till Im absolutely sure he isn't bleeding or wash him off and wrap it again. Maybe the vet? Any suggestions are appreciated.

If he's still alive this morning your probably In good shape. Check it out...clean it...start antibiotics.

He is still alive, it happened bout midnight . He acts pretty weak although he is still eating and drinking.

Need to clean it before infections set in

I would buy a pack of beef liver and give him 1/2 a pound of raw liver a day for 2 or 3 days along with his dog food...but I wouldn't hunt him for a while until the cut is healed because it could open back up...

I thought about the infection, but when I pulled the shirts off to take a look it was leaking bad.

Bring to a vet would prob what I do but as some folks on here know I m more conservative then some

if it was my dog I would take to vet , under the jaw is a bad area and have seen dogs expire from this injury several times , like said they normally dont make the night but I wouldnt take the chance on one of my family members jmo  wish you and your dog the best

Sounds like he needs to see the vet

Just so everybody knows, as my profile describes I am far from a veteran. Really only been hunting the last 2 yrs. I've dealt with pleanty of cuts but never seen one make it that was losing that much blood. I mean it surprised me that we got him outta there. With that in mind I'm open to any and all suggestions. Getting attached to a cdis not smart although it has happened in my case. Anything thats gonna help me save him for another day ill try. I owe him that , we've caught a many hog behind him.

seen this happen a couple weeks ago dog got stuck and lost a lot of blood so we put probably half a bottle of blood stop on it and wrapped it up with two big bandages so she couldnt move her head much and as far as i know she is doing fine

some say don't get attached and I say otherwise...just do what you can to keep them safe and maintain them as needed...and when one of the dogs is down and out you step up and be there and do what you can like you are doing...sometimes that is the difference that gets the dog over the hump...

Take him to the vet. If your willing to do what you can like you said good way to judge if you need to take them is if you think o man this is bad do I need to go to the vet. If you had that thought just go on an take em

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I know the distance wouldn't slow me down from taking my bulldog to the vet if he's hurt. We ask alot outta these dogs and like what was stated above do all you can and hope it's enough

As lacyman said, clean, rewrap n medicate ans as reuben said, beef liver to help with blood n iron replacement

I'd clean/flush that wound right away before infection sets in. Do you have any injectable Penicillan on hand?

Ok so after everybody's expert input and great advice, and a call to the local vet I've concluded he got hit on an artery or a good vein. Vet says they can do no more than I can at home. My wife just checked him out and says the hole has stopped leaking and there are clear signs that it has coagulated. Hopefully I can clean him up this evening wrap with good bandages, start a strong cycle of anti-biotics and start his diet of raw liver. He will appreciate that MR. REUBEN. A big Thanks to everybody for great advice. "CROOKED EAR KREIG" and I appreciate it.

Something that is light and easy, get a ziplock baggy, put as much baking powder in it as you can and it still fit in your pocket. It's a cheap blood stopper. I wouldn't go to a bay without it.

Gald to hear he's gunna make it

Glad ya got it stopped bud, be really careful cleaning I'm sure you know that already but just a extra reminder that sucker will open back up really quick if your not careful

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Not outta the woods yet. And even though he pumped half his heart on the ground last night, he's got heart to spare so yes hopefully he gonna make it. God forbid he don't, I may have to get a divorce my wife is upset to say the least.

And just to put a name to a face, "Kreig" is my profile pic. That's him at 8 months. He just turned 18months this may.

ya just put some blood stop in the wrap an see if u can get the blood flow to slow down. our spray a horse antibiotics shield on the area then proceed to wrap the injury and beef liver works or iron pills an dex if u got some. The swelling may get bad so any antihistamine 2 time a day will help him out!

Once again thanks everybody. And a special thanks to my huntin buddy's Brent and James for dropping what we were doing,  and even leaving dogs to get him outta the woods. It is all very appreciated.

For future reference always carry hemostats. You can clamp off a artery or a vein & stop the bleeding. I had a catchdog who had his jugular cut. We clamped it off & made it to the vet & no problems.
  I am curious about your vet that says he could not do any more. Any dog that loses that much blood, either needs a blood transfusion or some fluids put back in. I would have changed vets right there.jmo
  Also if you can get some ringers, you can put the fluid back in a dog yourself. This is really good for heatstoke. If not that, you can always shoot water under the skin.

mine got hit right on his eyebrow one time and thats the most blood i ever seen come out of a dog just kept on em with underwoods horse med and pen

The vet comment was in a since that I've got the blood stopped and have cleaned area and started replacing vital supplements to make up for the loss. Vet explained everything he would be able to do and because of the situation at this point  but also explained what I could do in comparison. After there's along with all of yalls advice I've decided to atleast try and clean, re-bandage, and medicate. If at any.point things go sour we will head to vet.

If you are around Georgetown by chance I can come put a I'v in him. He needs fluids. Use something stronger then the pen you get from the feed store if possible. No amount of liver will beat two bags of fluids. Lactated ringers are cheap and it isn't hard to start a iv once you seen it done.

Sending many good vibes your way. Sounds like he's got a good chance!

I was told this a few years back by an ol timer and it has helped us in the past. I double ziplock bagged it and put it in my 4wheeler compartment. It works alot better than I thought it would the first time i used it. Great advice Tiny.

You ask online and the only responsible thing to say is to take the dog to the vet. But I hate paying a vet to just look and say I did a good job. I have stopped bleeding in people and animals but i ain't no surgeon. If the bleeding is under control then I ain't goin to the vet or the doctor even for me. I treat my dogs like I want to be treated. I just ask myself if I would want to go to the doctor if I was hurt like that. I don't ask my dogs to do anything I would not do. They are just faster. So I treat them like myself or my children. I don't go running to the doctor for every cut or fall. Now my wife says to take the kids to the doctor and the dogs to the vet. So I just try not to let her know rolleyes

Just get a bottle of Wonder Dust to carry with you. That stuff has saved many dogs around here over the years

the vet would go broke and out of business if everyone used them like I do...I take care of most things related to dogs and prevention is always best...Loss of blood most always I take care of myself...main thing is keep your dog out of shock and warm them up if they do...I keep the dog at my side on the way home and that dog will spend the night in the house and I will be where he can see me and I can pat him now and then...sometimes it is that little extra that gives them the will to fight and pull through...JMO

like most have already said...we do the other things to make the dog well but stopping the bleeding any way you can is the first thing that needs to happen...

Has been in the house all day yesterday and will continue to he there. That is until I can sneak him back to the kennels w/o my wife having a cow. He is definitely a top-notch cd but he has also become a close member of our family. I totally agree that if a dog understands you will go the limit for him/her, they will push themselves to the limit for you.

Where do you get the ringers?

Vet or if you know a emt or nurse.

x3 feed him a lot to build his red blood cells and iron

I agree Mr. Reuben, a bit off topic but I believe the same is true in regards to sickened puppies, i have seen it first hand and honestly believe that had I not stayed in almost constant contact with a couple different pups while sick that they would not be around today. It truely does make a difference....dogs are considered mans best friend for a reason, once trust is earned a good one will strive to perform for and seek approval from its master.......some say they prefer a dog that hunts for itself, I personally prefer one that hunts for  approval from his master and a scratch behind its ear.

I agree with you too...I have saved some sick pups and I do believe that being their for them until they get over the hump is sometimes the difference in whether they make it or not...grown dogs the same...

on your other comment I also agree...

 I do like a little independence but I like a dog that hunts with me and close enough to the pack so they can pack up when one strikes...and if I am moving I want my 4 or 5 dogs to be looping 200-400 yards in all directions...as long as I see one or 2 lope by they haven't got on a hog...don't see a dog for a little while it is time to pull that ole tracker out cause they are running a track, running a hog, or already have one bayed...dogs that scatter in different directions and are hunting for themselves I don't care as much for...just my preference...