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Title: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: djhogdogger on June 13, 2013, 10:05:47 pm
I cant get my photo bucket to work for some reason. I wanted to post a cool pic that a friend of ours took from his plane while flying somewhere near Ennis, La. yestarday. Its a black bear and her cub. Not something you see very often I would imagine. If someone can post it for me, I can email it to you.


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: UNDERDOG on June 13, 2013, 10:11:58 pm
Mrs Dinah. Send it to me and I'll post it for ya.


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: djhogdogger on June 13, 2013, 10:14:55 pm
Ok. But I will have to send it via email


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: djhogdogger on June 13, 2013, 10:23:09 pm
Ok I sent you two pics.


Title: Re: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: UNDERDOG on June 13, 2013, 10:26:38 pm
Here ya go.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/14/eby3aqy3.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/14/e8useruh.jpg)


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: djhogdogger on June 13, 2013, 10:28:56 pm
Thank you Bryant. I just thought it was neat to see bears. Ive never seen one in the wild.


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: hillbilly on June 13, 2013, 10:33:06 pm
Yea they have turned them suckers out every where over here. I am just waiting on the day I get n one with the dogs


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: djhogdogger on June 13, 2013, 10:44:04 pm
Yea they have turned them suckers out every where over here. I am just waiting on the day I get n one with the dogs



Yea, that would be awesome. Hahaha, if I ever ran into a blackbear in the woods, I would think I saw bigfoot


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: justincorbell on June 13, 2013, 10:45:27 pm
Thats pretty cool right there! my great uncle lives just east of the atchafalya (sp?)  river basin and has taken pictures of a few at their local gun range!!!

 Seems like in 2011 (i think it was) there were quite a few trailcam pics throughout west texas of black bears tearing up feeders, i don't know how much truth there was to it but people were saying that they were traveling further due to drought conditions...... We have to deal with hogs tearing up feeders, could you imagine dealing with bears?!?!?!?


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: buddylee on June 14, 2013, 04:14:53 am
Bears are real bad on feeders. Chew right thru them. Extremely intelligent animals. Hard to keep them from getting your feeder.


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: Muddogkennels on June 14, 2013, 05:52:17 am
Yea they have turned them suckers out every where over here. I am just waiting on the day I get n one with the dogs
ya bud joneboro, la has about 10 black bears that raid some dumpsters every night there are right by a chicken farm with free ranging chickens running around they are for dinner for them bears:) u know where 505 north end comes out past walmart?  at the public dumpsters thats cool seeing them up close.. down by my house around black lake there's a big red an black wolf i be trying to trap but hes smart i have a hog trap with a shoat cages in the trap with a wire tied to the cage but he only wants to come around it cant get him to take the bait!! wolfs are smart he don't come back the same way!


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: jimco on June 14, 2013, 06:49:24 am
They have comeback from near extinction in the Atchafalaya Basin area. When the Cajuns arrived in South Louisiana, written accounts show they were quite plentiful. Here is an article that was in the local news.

                http://www.wwltv.com/news/lafourche-terrebonne/La-black-bears-recovering-from-near-extinction-202521761.html


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: hogdogger98 on June 14, 2013, 07:40:47 am
Arkansas has a good bear population. North Arkansas especially. I've saw tracks but never a bear, I sure hope if my dogs ever get on one it will go up a tree in a hurry.


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: Circle C on June 14, 2013, 08:09:09 am
A friend of mine from Alpine sent me this pic over the weekend. Said it was taken that day in Del Rio, TX...

(http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1002804_10151436159747407_901794494_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: KevinN on June 14, 2013, 08:31:31 am
There suppose to be in Far East Texas as well. There was a bow hunting blog type site I use to frequent maybe 8-10 years ago. I was frequenting the site for information on food plots. The guy had a small lease and planted a 5 acre plott. He kept a running blog going from the planning phase of the plot till the end of the season. Anyway, it was a nice plot and he had deer coming in on a regular basis then right around rutt they quit coming....they disappeared for the rest of the season. He couldn't figure it out. After the season he did some serious scouting and found tracks....couldn't believe it so moved a trail cam and sure enough...a sow and cub. She had moved in and the deer moves out, lol.


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: djhogdogger on June 14, 2013, 08:50:08 am
A friend of mine from Alpine sent me this pic over the weekend. Said it was taken that day in Del Rio, TX...

(http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1002804_10151436159747407_901794494_n.jpg)


That is a very up close and personal pic. I didnt even know that we had bears in Texas! Especially out west! ???


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: justincorbell on June 14, 2013, 08:51:57 am
i'll see if I can dig up the posts im talkin about for you


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: halfbreed on June 14, 2013, 09:07:17 am
   yes the bears are coming up from mexico and new mexico.  the alpin area has had quite a few reports that made all the news channels . if we can keep the poachers off of them we may soon have bears in north east texas as well .  funny how game management works when hunters co-operate .


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: justincorbell on June 14, 2013, 09:09:44 am
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16525
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=373777&highlight=black+bear
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328340&highlight=black+bear
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336896&highlight=texas+black+bear

alotta pissin n moanin in some of these threads but they also have gamecam pics and even video's of bears from pretty much all over texas....of course I said west Texas and have yet to find the thread I saw about em in west texas lol but regardless theres some pretty cool pics and info about em across texas. Enjoy!


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: justincorbell on June 14, 2013, 09:28:33 am
heres a couple more for those interested

http://discussions.texasbowhunter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336896&highlight=texas+black+bear
http://discussions.texasbowhunter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122885&highlight=texas+black+bear


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: halfbreed on June 14, 2013, 09:33:02 am
  yeah buddy  the deer [ hunters ] as they still call it , I call them deer harvesters there ain't nothing  [ hunting ] about it  . don't like any thing eating their presious corn pile  lmao 


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: firemedic on June 14, 2013, 10:59:22 am
Well that's just plum cool Dinah,....glad to see the bear are doing good in some states in the South. I have heard of bear in my area of North Alabama all my life, we have actually tried to run one a few times when we had bear dogs years ago,....but these so called 'sightings' we always a hoax,.....never even saw a track much less a bear. So I had decided that I would never see a bear in North Bama in my lifetime....I was wrong! I didn't see the bear but I saw it's track on my buddy's property right where we deer hunted. Good bear too,....that was about 5 years ago now and they're seeing them all around here now.....I'm tickled that we have a few, now if the goomers will let them be and not shoot every one they see on sight, we might get to legally run a bear around here someday!
I'm hoping to be lucky and get to actually see one in the woods sometime before long. It's apparently hard for them to get established around here for all the black panthers/mountain lions/cougars killing them off!!!!!!  :o :o :D I've heard tales of those being around here too, but amazingly nobody has ever produced a clear picture of one.....funny how that works. rolleyes


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: BurnEmUp on June 14, 2013, 11:09:50 am
oh boy, i think im no longer going to walk to my deer stand. From now on ill be running.. :o


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: T-Bob Parker on June 14, 2013, 11:48:27 am
http://biologyfiles.fieldofscience.com/2011/08/bears-of-texas-chapter-3-bears-to-east.html?m=1


Read the section about the bears of east Texas.

CWard has said it a time or two and I've heard it from a few old farts including my pawpaw (bless his soul) who grew up in Pineland and ran coons and deer before ww2, "east Texans just bout run smooth out of black bears on account of these cur dogs round here"

Believe it or not if you want, but old men who know better than me have told me that hounds are unbeatable pleasure hunting dogs, "but if you huntin fur, use a cur."


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: jimco on June 14, 2013, 12:30:08 pm
Me and the wife spent a week up in the mountains in east Tenn. last October. There was a dog season going on
for bear. Every morning them hounds would open up in them mountains and I swear it was the sweetest sound
I ever heard, the way they would echo through them mountains.

In South La. the numbers would be much higher except for the fact that a bunch get hit by cars (US Hwy. 90)
and during the fall a bunch get killed by sugar cane harvesters.


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: Cajun on June 14, 2013, 04:42:27 pm
I  talked to Maria Davidson last year. Very interesting person & most biologists would be against hunting a species that has come back but she actually wants to get a season on them. She was telling me that the bears are expanding their habitat & the young bears are leaving looking for new territory. Of course the bad news would be, that it probably would not be with dogs, but she is very pro dogs.
  I actually contacted her x husband Paul Davidsson a few years ago about problem bears & asked what they did with them. He said if they had a collar on them it was no problem to track to them & tranq. them & remove them. But if they did not, the bear would do his damage & move on. I volunteered my services & they were receptive to the idea but the problem is that when a bear is causing trouble it is normally in a populated area with a lot of roads.
  They actually got a couple of blackmouth curs to run the bears off of some areas & they wanted short distance dogs. Honest, I am not making that up.lol
  When they were restocking the La. bear program, they imported bear in from Mn.  Maria says she can tell at a glance, even to this day, if a bear has Mn. gene. They are blockier & have much more hair, even bred down.
  Last year a 300# boar bear was run over just south of Baton rouge & every year one or two make the news traveling through Mandeville, Covington are.


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: mod93dirt on June 14, 2013, 05:19:08 pm
We have had a bear season for 4 yrs now in Oklahoma, but only in 4 or 5 counties. They started out with a 20 bear quota, archery only. in 09 they only killed 18 all season. In 2010, they got 32 on the first day, so season was over. In 11, I think they got like 28 the first day. In 12, they had an archery season, and actually opened up a muzzleloader season as well. Not sure about the harvest number from this past year though.

I do know that there are more and more showing up all the time, and far away from the counties that have seasons open.  Ive got a friend who live back in the woods in a non season county, and he has several run in with bears. From tearing up his deer feeders to getting in his chicken house one night and puttin a whoopin on two solid bulldogs. He talked to the GW after the chicken house run in, and GW said if its messing with the livestock he could take a bear.  He hasnt had that happen again yet, but sees tracks on his property pretty regular. And Ive seen plenty on trail cam pics on forums and FB from a lot of other counties.

It sure would be cool if we got a good enough population of them up here to open up a dog hunting season. Or itd be cool if my dogs trashed on one during a hunt some time. They aint trash broke to a bear so I couldnt be too hard on them, lol. I just hope they wouldnt try and catch!  Treeing a bear or big cat is one of my bucket list items.


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: jimco on June 14, 2013, 06:03:18 pm
Yea, I don't think I would be too upset if my dogs trashed on one and treed him. Then when I got some pups
for sale I can say they are out of Bear dog stock,  lol.  :laugh:


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: Swine-Stalker on June 14, 2013, 09:57:24 pm
Yea, I don't think I would be too upset if my dogs trashed on one and treed him. Then when I got some pups
for sale I can say they are out of Bear dog stock,  lol.  :laugh:

It happens. I skipped out on a hunt lasst year in new roads and the crew treed a black bear. I thought they were full of it till they sent me the pics. I don't have them now since my phone crashed and lost the texts but it was neat for sure... still kicking myself over skipping that hunt


Title: Re: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: BigCutters4 on June 14, 2013, 10:51:13 pm
They are thick in north LA where we hunt wish they would go away(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/15/sagu7ujy.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/15/ypudu6uq.jpg)

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Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: sanman on June 14, 2013, 11:10:11 pm
I  talked to Maria Davidson last year. Very interesting person & most biologists would be against hunting a species that has come back but she actually wants to get a season on them. She was telling me that the bears are expanding their habitat & the young bears are leaving looking for new territory. Of course the bad news would be, that it probably would not be with dogs, but she is very pro dogs.
  I actually contacted her x husband Paul Davidsson a few years ago about problem bears & asked what they did with them. He said if they had a collar on them it was no problem to track to them & tranq. them & remove them. But if they did not, the bear would do his damage & move on. I volunteered my services & they were receptive to the idea but the problem is that when a bear is causing trouble it is normally in a populated area with a lot of roads.
  They actually got a couple of blackmouth curs to run the bears off of some areas & they wanted short distance dogs. Honest, I am not making that up.lol
  When they were restocking the La. bear program, they imported bear in from Mn.  Maria says she can tell at a glance, even to this day, if a bear has Mn. gene. They are blockier & have much more hair, even bred down.
  Last year a 300# boar bear was run over just south of Baton rouge & every year one or two make the news traveling through Mandeville, Covington are.
Talked to her a few times myself on large carnivore stuff. Seems to be a real nice lady. One of their first bear dogs actually escaped out of their truck on the way back from a call, and there was a short panic until a citizen called and returned it.
Tensas NWR is loaded with bears. I have a camp east of Marksville, and the NWR we hunt on has a few. Parked my bike year before last at a spot I hunt, and there was foam everywhere. Couldn't figure out what went on. My camp partner was there the next week, and saw the guy who's bike the foam was from. Bear cane and shredded his seat while he was out hunting. I have never seen one in the wild, but have seen tracks on Bayou Cocodrie NWR. I am a member of Bayoubucks site, and there are a couple videos a year from guys hunting Tensas NWR that film them at the base of their trees. Pretty wild.
Have a buddy I rodeoed with that grew up on an 86,000 acre place on the Rio Grande, south of Sanderson. His family tells stories of Mexican Brown Bears being around for alot of years down there.  They saw them pretty regular.


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: tnhillbilly on June 15, 2013, 03:40:56 am
Well that's just plum cool Dinah,....glad to see the bear are doing good in some states in the South. I have heard of bear in my area of North Alabama all my life, we have actually tried to run one a few times when we had bear dogs years ago,....but these so called 'sightings' we always a hoax,.....never even saw a track much less a bear. So I had decided that I would never see a bear in North Bama in my lifetime....I was wrong! I didn't see the bear but I saw it's track on my buddy's property right where we deer hunted. Good bear too,....that was about 5 years ago now and they're seeing them all around here now.....I'm tickled that we have a few, now if the goomers will let them be and not shoot every one they see on sight, we might get to legally run a bear around here someday!
I'm hoping to be lucky and get to actually see one in the woods sometime before long. It's apparently hard for them to get established around here for all the black panthers/mountain lions/cougars killing them off!!!!!!  :o :o :D I've heard tales of those being around here too, but amazingly nobody has ever produced a clear picture of one.....funny how that works. rolleyes
Neal, if you come up this winter, ill do my best to get you under a treed bear. ;-)


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: Kid7 on June 15, 2013, 07:36:57 am
A friend of mine from Alpine sent me this pic over the weekend. Said it was taken that day in Del Rio, TX...

(http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1002804_10151436159747407_901794494_n.jpg)


That is a very up close and personal pic. I didnt even know that we had bears in Texas! Especially out west! ???
Yes mam there are quite a few in west texas actually. I know some people in alpine, fort stockton, and San angelo. The family in San Angelo the dad is a vet and he has about 5-10 bear cases a year. And there are 3 bears with radio collars on them on the ranch in fort stockton. My buddy in alpine actually called one in while varmit hunting and it had a radio collar on it.


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: slimhogdog on June 15, 2013, 09:51:36 am
I live in the Atchafalaya Basin and they are all over down here. A fella I know's Chesapeake Bay Retriever got into it with a bear in his neighborhood that was raiding trash cans and that bear put a major whoopin on that dog, something like 80+ stitches.    From what I was told the wardens wanted to fine the dog's owner for the dog attacking the bear.....


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: jimco on June 15, 2013, 10:56:05 am
I live in the Atchafalaya Basin and they are all over down here. A fella I know's Chesapeake Bay Retriever got into it with a bear in his neighborhood that was raiding trash cans and that bear put a major whoopin on that dog, something like 80+ stitches.    From what I was told the wardens wanted to fine the dog's owner for the dog attacking the bear.....

Seth, you know that pipeline that's right pass the tracks on Thurguson Rd. in Berwick?  Last spring
seems like every time I passed early in the morning there was a moma and 2 cubs on that pipeline.


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: slimhogdog on June 15, 2013, 12:27:00 pm
Yea Jim I know just what your talking about.  I used to bowhunt in those woods behind that little gas plant near the Calumet Cut and would see Bears every single hunt!


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: firemedic on June 17, 2013, 12:14:00 am
I'll be up there Tom, done made up my mind buddy! I do love to bear hunt and did it for a few years, but it's just not very productive in TN unless you have one heck of a pack of bear dogs. Reason being that a bear that climbs a tree in TN is a dead bear,.....most of the time.


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: Black Smith on June 17, 2013, 04:24:28 am
I been working on a rig in vermillion bay for a couple of years and there a quite a few around here!!


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: NChoghunter on June 17, 2013, 08:56:15 am
Here on the coast of north carolina we have 1000's of black bear some being up to 800lbs its hard to hog hunt this time of year with all the bear out an about


Title: Re: Black bear in Louisiana
Post by: tnhillbilly on June 18, 2013, 01:05:03 am
Neal, Don't know about having a real pack of bear dogs but we manage to tree a few.

NChoghunter, I would LOVE, LOVE, LOVE to find another good lease over there. Hint, hint.  ;D